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ParticipantFoster is a great architect….auld codger of the realm and all as he is!
Hugh Pearman can be conservative and reserved at times.
Being conservative and restrained restricts creativity. This can lead to stagnation…….run of the mill hum drum ennui!
Aka …here’s to being bonkers and alternative
and different at times (but once it is well thought out)
Foster is a good thinker….he thinks out well his designs…….
Richard Rodgers …another auld codger and ‘knight of the realm’ produces even more bonker designs….and these are the so called ‘reserved cup of tea’ ‘nation of shopkeepers’ british.
Could we produce such characters of archtecture which produce innovative and striking architecture here in Ireland.GregF
ParticipantWow …what a building!
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Participant…….how about needle then as in Cleopatra’s needle
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ParticipantAn Tur Solais ……..the pole aka …..the Spire of Light. The ‘Spire’ is appropriate.
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ParticipantAh the once proposed NCC ……alas now only a figment……what a wasted economic opportunity for the city and aesthetic opportunity for the dockside.
Roches once proposed glass tumbola beside Calatrava’s proposed harp like bridge with Bono’s and Gehrys proposed tower across the Liffey.
Lit up at night it could all look so wonderful too.
Alas we will get a space filler – a park …..trees and grass; which became prolific throughtout the city in the impoverished eighties making use of derelict land..or else we’ll get another hum drum concoction by Scott Tallon & Walker……..the Stock, Aiken & Waterman of Irish architecture today. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Forever shame on that tax exile Dermot Desmond and the Green Party et all for throwing the big spanner in the works of Spencer Dock.GregF
ParticipantI agree, I have’nt seen the design…..but it should be given to a big name. I’m sure Gehry would produce something of a focal point and a talking point for everyone….and that’s what Dublin needs to put it up there with the big guns of cities today…..else it will just stagnate and fade back into the doldrums of insignificance. ZZzzzzzzzzzz!
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ParticipantThat would be an eradication of all late 20th century facades….leaving only what was rebuilt after 1916 which was in a more nineteenth century style. That would be strange.
After all, the upgrading of O’Connell Street will be in a comtemporary style, ie like Henry Street. The lighting (the retro Victorian lampstandards are going) the seating , booths, etc……….are all to tie in with the Spire, giving a more modern air of design to the street.
It would be ludicrous to lose all 20th century ‘Modernist’ style buildings ….after all O’Connell Street could have been rebuilt in a Bauhaus style following the uprising.GregF
ParticipantAny one got a copy of that image that was in the Sunday Times
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ParticipantWere insurance and rental costs the hurdle
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ParticipantThis is a necessity for the city and country and reflects a nation and people. It is superficial I know when compared to hospital waiting lists,the unemployed, the unemployable, the crime, the jail accomodation, etc, etc…… Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz……but Jesus do they not realize the high profile this country would acheive on a sporting, tourist and international level……aka revenue…..as in extra money to spend…..as in extra money to spend on hospital waiting lists, the unemployed, the unemployable, the crime, the jail accomodation…etc….
These dozy f**kers take forever for the penny to drop. Remember the sucess in the past folks whether it be the Cinema and Film Industry,the World Cup, the Eurovision, bland entertainment and all as it is……etc etc….Superficial it may seem ….but it lifted the country, the people and brought millions into the country and the economy.
Every country has their share of social problems but it does’nt deter important projects. We will only realize this when the bloody thing is built like everything else …saying how did we ever live without it in the past.
Jesus will they ever get their fingers out and build this much needed facility. The bigger the better ….we don’t after all want to be adding on extensions either in 10 years time just like the West Link bridge now etc etc which has sent the overall cost through the roof……………
Now get out and start building ….ye’s lazy thick ignorant penny pinching shitz.GregF
Participant……and here he is Pap on his horse at College Green with the Volunteers…..although I think it is King Billy really in Caesar attire.
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Participanthttp://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/city_development/gardiner.htm
There were 2 Luke Gardiners by the way …..
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ParticipantAnyone know of any images/portraits of the great man himself and unsung hero Luke Gardiner …aka junior and senior.
Maybe a campaign should be started to give these great urban planners of Georgian Dublin
the credit they deserve. Yep I can see B..B…Bertie et al jumping on the band wagon.A sculpture would be very apt done in a Baroque style with a bit of a swagger and set in a square of some sort in his part of Dublin. Pity that Gardiner Street has suffered however.
(Ever see that statue too of Robert Emmet on St Steven’s Green, somewhat lost where it is is’nt it………I often thought that it should be moved to the front of St Catherine’s Church with a square of some sort being created in Thomas Street where he had his bit of an uprising and was executed.)
Feck the traffic here, the fabric, history and culture of the city matters more.GregF
ParticipantYep that Marks and Spencer building is truely brutal and to think it was built in the heddy days of Post Modernism. The Ilac Centre is truely awful too. What disasters…..bless the architects ….for they really need it….poor souls.
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ParticipantThings are happening to the ILAC alright …..I see that all the old wans who sold the shoes on Parnell Street are gone. Also across the way they started work on the hotel that was proposed.
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ParticipantThat paintng of College Green in the National Gallery I think has the statue of William of Orange which used to be there and who’s garbed in Caesar attire.
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ParticipantIn 1966 there was no need to blow up Nelsons Pillar. But that’s the IRA for ye….cultural ambassadors…Not!
By right the bureaucrats should have removed and replaced the statue of Nelson with a statue of Wolfe Tone who was afterall a Dub and the founding father of the Irish Republic. All references to Nelson and the empire should have been removed too and replaced with references to Wolfe Tone and Democracy. In that way the pillar could have remained as part of the street and statue of Wolfe Tone could have been cast in a classical manner in keeping with his time and the plinth of the pillar. But no, that would have beyond the comprehension of the people of the time.
Anyway here’s to today, the times we live in now and the Spire of Dublin.GregF
Participantaye….monuments are tombstones or gravestones so as to remember the dead.
The ‘Dublin Spire of Light’ it is then.GregF
ParticipantSee that they are considering calling it the Sword of Light…..which is’nt bad I supppose….but the use of the word sword refers to a ‘weapon’ which I suppose is’nt very PC today…..An Cleadamh Solais os gaeilge from Padraig Pearse. Sure the spire does’nt have a blade either.
Also Chrisy Burke of Sinn Fein is vouching for Padraig Pearse’s Pillar, how bloody corny and some other goons are on for calling it the just as bloody corny Brian Boru spire.
Imagine naming a monument after someone or something who/which was’nt even in the designer’s thoughts when it was first conceived.
For me the Plain old ‘Spire Of Dublin’ or ‘Spire of Light’ or ‘Monument of Light’ or even the ‘Dublin Spire of Light’ does the job….just like the plain old ‘Eiffel Tower’ in Paris.GregF
ParticipantI have to say too however that City Hall looks great and they did a great rejuvenation job on it.
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