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ParticipantI wish we would’nt use the UK as a role model, we should look to the better examples throughout the free world. The UK makes a hames of a lot of things.
Bill Morris who is head of the unions in Britain is head or closely affiliated to the unions here in Ireland……hence our disasterous history of (bus) strikes etc…..too.
CIE stated in the leaflets that were issued on the day of ‘non fare colection’ that if private bus companies were to take over they would only be interested in the bus routes that were profitable, which would mean the loss of the unprofitable bus routes leaving people stranded. A fair point.
But to draw an analogy, for years Aer Lingus were complaining of mass loses etc….due to the Ryan Air factor etc….and campaigned heavily against the government relaxing the monopoly that they had ….and hey presto! look what happened ….Aer Lingus made a profit of 60 million Euro last year.
Maybe then lets break up the public transport monopoly ……Dunno what the drivers are worried about ….(it’s certainly not the welfare of the travelling Irish general public, especially with more conventional strikes they have planned in future). Anyway, it would lead to more jobs and choices for bus drivers.
We are always blinkered and blind in Ireland here to grasp new changes for the betterment of our society. Remember, contraception was only made legal back in the early 1990’s and there were campaign’s against the Lotto and a woman president etc , etc ….saying that our country would fall to pieces.
I’d say take the plunge and let’s make the change. It is only a tradition of stagnation we are breaking with.GregF
Participanthttp://www.reflectingcity.com/8501a.htm
Here’s a link with some notable people’s opinions…..including Coyne.
Me I’d give Coyne the booth and employ someone with a bit of flair dynamism and vision. Hard to find someone like that around these shores I know.
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ParticipantIt has to be visually the worst urban rejeneration projects going on in the world today.
Well done to the DDDA and Peter Coyne for letting this be so. Who is he and the DDDA by the way ….a bunch of grey suited civil servants?It’s totally bland, banal, mediocre……etc
and a f*****g crime to put it bluntly!GregF
ParticipantI agree
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ParticipantThe Bridge Inn ….a great auld pub….immortalized by Joyce in his novels and me father and me uncles too.
GregF
ParticipantVisit Killenarden, particularly Donomore Avenue up in Tallaght.
The Corpo built a whole housing estate on the side of the Dublin mountains back in the late 70’s, early 80’s.
See the front and back gardens and their steep slope; a struggle for the tenants with a push mower to ‘cut the grass’.
(Gas the way we say that in Ireland as opposed to ‘mow the lawn’)
I have a sister who once lived there.GregF
ParticipantIt was sad that his NCC never came to fruition. It would have looked great on the Dublin quayside beside Calatrava’s proposed bridge at Spencer Dock/Macken Street.
After all, the man is Irish too who did well for himself in the architecture world. It would have been good for him to have a piece of his work here in Ireland. Now that he is in the evening of his life it will not be the case.
He can join the gang like Wilde, Joyce, and Beckett, etc…. all Dubs too who fled the country to get on in life.GregF
Participant……just to add too , there were pig sculptures installed in Galway and they were just recently vandalized too. One sculptue was smashed to pieces ….The French artist was very distraught.
GregF
ParticipantZAP….How can you say it was only those from a socially disadvantaged background that destroyed the art pieces. It was most likely people from other backgrounds as well.
See Dublin town on any night particularly the weekend when the so called educated and employed young masses of Dublin and all Ireland whilst gargled to the brim wreak havoc on the city. It’s these folk too that ye’ll find pissing and puking in doorways. Once they have their 7 honours in their leaving cert, a 3rd level education and a good job the buck stops there regarding art and the urban environment.GregF
Participant……so the total vandalism of the public art piece’s has nothing got to do with the art education of the Irish public.
What is the reason then, the depletion of the rainforests in Brazil, the Middle Eastern conflict, Mad Cow desease, CJD and the price of beef?GregF
ParticipantYeh I agree…….
……but I was talking to Whacker and he thought that ‘de bleedin cows wer stupit’ and ‘dat him and de bird toth dat …..dat was’nt bleedin art’…..
So too did Cormac from Ballinteer who thought that ‘de coaws beard no resembelence too de reale kattle back hoome’.
and Justin form Rathmines agreed saying that ‘thows cows thingys were so silly man …Roish!’.We have a long way to go with our Art Education syllabus in this country!
GregF
ParticipantHere here…………I agree.
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ParticipantLet’s send that link to our new Lord Mayor of Dublin ‘Royston Brady’ ….maybe he’ll will do something wothwhile ….while in office.
GregF
Participant‘Within the area of the old city walls, there’s a few medieval churches, Dublin Castle, and, er, that’s it’.
Your’re dead right Paul and is’nt it a fucking crying shame.
So much for all the Government’s, An Taisce’s and Green Party & Co’s blatherings about protecting our environment.GregF
ParticipantThey should clear the crusties out of the building and heavily prosecute the landlord or proprietor of the building for allowing it too fall into into such a state of disrepair and neglect.
Else it will be another part of Dublin’s architectural heritage forever lost. We are too complacent and lazy on such matters, hence the poor condition of our built urban environment.Where’s An Taisce, the Green Party & Co when it really matters……and not forgetting Royston Brady of FF our new Lord Mayor and the idealist know alls of Sinn Fein who only have offices on the same street (but in a state as well).
GregF
Participant…..near Donaghmede, Raheny
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ParticipantThere are some great churches around the country, St. Finbar’s and the above links are brilliant examples of such edifices.
Such devotion from Irish folk who had nothing then yet gave what they could toward the building of such great churches. Great work from the architects too, even if they may have been formulaic. What great landmarks they left us today.
Pity about the frugal shit that was built in suburban housing estates from the early 70’s onwards….ie concrete windowless blocks…truely godless and inhuman places.GregF
ParticipantThat sounds good, I must drop along to see it. Anyone ever see Walter Osbournes paintings of the people and street life of Dublin. Their faces are the faces that one would see today; ruddy, hard etched, lonely mothers with kids with skin heads, etc….
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ParticipantThat proposed city is Bonkers.
Anything like that with religious overtones smacks of religious fundamentalism and bigotry. Enough of such out-dated dross.
At least if it had been proposed 400 years ago and had we been a wealthy state, we would have today a city like Rome no doubt.
But this is the secular age today.GregF
ParticipantTo add….’Dublin airport is to clear the debts of Shannon and Cork airports’.
Brian Hanson is right by the way.
Dublin’s grand architecture suffered greatly in the past at the hands of culchie TD’s who were ignorant of art and architecture, urban and city living and who were appointed for the running of the city, hence thay ran it into the ground.
Dublin to them was viewed depisedly as a Brit city with all the trappings and a Jackeen population, yet Dublin’s sons and daughters produced a Rising in 1916 that was a turning point for the history of the country whilst most culchies were hiding under their beds, po on heads.
Thus when such culchie politicians got a little bit of power in their hands the capital city of Ireland and it’s people suffered enormously. Hence the mass unemployment, rampant dereliction, and the drugs ridden city it became….See today the broken people in the inner city of such hard times. (The chronic situation of the ecomony of the country being a major factor also, but how was the country ever to succeed when it’s power house ‘Dublin’ was so neglected).
As the auld saying goes too Dublin is the city that most rural folk flock to ‘to get a job’ yet a lot of them view it with such disdain.
Yet Dublin set’s the precedent for the rest of the country….whether it be architecture, social living or even crime.- AuthorPosts
