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ParticipantLooks like the vital decision today on the redevelopment of Lansdowne Road may be postponed, according to some reports; I hope I’m wrong ….(ah sure why the rush …tis taken 5 years till now).
Don’t really blame the GAA I suppose for the banning of ”foreign sports” from it’s sacred turf (that was grown in England). But they are in competition with the Rugger and Soccer for future budding sporting athletes and the protection and the safe continuation and develpment of the Irish National games.
Tis full of contradictions however, is’nt it …..allowing American Football ( a derivative of English Rugby) in, yet banning both the Irish National Teams of Soccer and Rugby….The Soccer team who plays the Irish National Anthemn yet consists of 26 counties and the Rugby Team that consist of the full 32 county Ireland but who don’t play the National Anthemn at times for PC reasons…and I suppose rightly so too. Yet both teams wave the flag of the Irish Republic….the same flag that Pearse & Co hoisted over the GPO in 1916, an event of Irish history which all GAA heads worship. Full of contradictions eh! …tis no wonder we don’t have a Stadium for all sports…..and it may take another few years or more to come about.GregF
ParticipantThe first 2 are quite striking ….the last 2 are just ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Typical of Scott Tallon Walker …what a horrendous proposal.GregF
Participant…..Because it’s the Capital City of Ireland?
(and has about a third of the population of Ireland and also usually sets a precedent for Irish Life in general!)
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ParticipantHard to say what location the government will decide on. McDaid was plugging Abbotstown last night, although if they go with that they should build an 80,000 seater as what was originally proposed. No half-hearted half measures.
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ParticipantYe mention the Liffey Wharf pub on Ushers Quay: in fact, the whole stretch of this side of the quays is an absolute disgrace. From the diddly-idle pub O’Shea’s Merchant right up to Heuston Station is one big hotch potch disaster of pastiche, gerry building, dereliction and rubbish. (A great backdrop to the new James Joyce bridge whose arches were lowered so as this view would not be obstructed).
An Taisce could focus it’s energies here highlighting the urgent need to repair the fabric of this part of the city with better contemporary design standards.GregF
ParticipantI heard two old codgers on the bus one day saying that ”O’Connell Street is disgraceful ”and ”why did’nt they leave it as it was”.
Ye can’t win with such people….You’re damned if ye do and damned if ye don’t.GregF
ParticipantGoing by the photos, this looks like the stand alone monumental mass concrete modern stuff they did in the 60’s but tailored today to serve as infill.
Got their influence from the new National Gallery Extension in Dublin no doubt.
I wonder what trendy colour they’ll paint it: Roches Stores minimalist white, Project art centre blue, Earthy Terra Cotta, Insipid Lime Green, Magnolia etc or maybe they’ll pebble dash it!
Look at that messy roofline too.Why do they ever keep the facades after butchering the equally important interiors….ie the classical building beside it. Would be best to demolish the whole lot at the start. It’s all cosy anachronistic lies and will be viewed as that in the future!
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ParticipantHere’s the model which shows how Croke Park and Hill 16 will look
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ParticipantHere’s an aerial view of Landsdowne Road.
It will be a tight fit for the building of the new stadium in the same location. Look at those terrace ends as well as the Stand over the Dart line.
Would be best if it was rotated, as has been said before. It would utilize the space better using up that green field and probably would accomodate a bigger stadium. Common sense really when ye look at the aerial photo.
Wake up dopey government and get yer finger out.
Hump the objecting locals too, the grounds have been there long before the present residents, unless there is a local there of 100 years or more alive today.Roll on the new stadium for Landsdowne Road!
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ParticipantThere was a fine building that stood on High Street just a few metres down from Tailors Hall, An Taisce’s HQ. It was the former AIB Bank (beside MRCB paints) and dates from Victorian or Edwardian times. I’m sure it had a fine interior too and it had survived the Corpo’s inane road widening schemes of the past.
I was very saddened to see at Christmas that it had been gutted with only the facade remaining. I suppose it will be transformed into appartments or offices. I did’nt read or hear any objections from An Taisce!GregF
ParticipantI suppose ye have to kinda admire in a way Jim Mansfield for going ahead with this in the way that he did, despite breaking the law, but considering the governments gross inadequacy in dealing with the issue of a National Conference Centre (as well as a National Stadium )
The design of it however is bloody awful ….the framework of a warehouse ….just as well it was stopped.
The best proposal was Kevin Roches Conference Centre for the docks, it is a far better location too….and a somewhat striking design for the Liffey front give or take a few design modifications.GregF
ParticipantTrader John’s is the pub on Moore Street……booking available now.
Bertie and Co (ie His glam daughter and hubby) all invited!
Westlifers to profide the entertainment as well as ”salt o de earth” Brendan O’ Carroll!GregF
ParticipantWhat gave corporate architecture a bad name in the past here was the way the ‘Cathedrals of Commerce’ bombastically and wrongly intruded the old and historic parts of Dublin city……ie to mention the old regulars of the Bank on Baggot Street, the ESB on Fitzwilliam Street etc….etc…
Attitudes changed in the 80’s here I suppose with the arrival of Post Modernism and an emerging respect of our past architecture ie, The pedestrianisation of Grafton Street and the like…. etc.
But this anti 60’s ‘Cathedrals of Commerce’ hang up carries on today where new contemporary develpments face huge hurdles even on brownfield sites.GregF
ParticipantCaltrava’s harp like bridge will definitely be a great contribution too.
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ParticipantSo you reckon there is hope for the Dublin docklands Diaspora, now that a substantial amount of infill and regular shite has been built it can act as as a backdrop to the showpieces etc….
The best is yet to come then….so we all hope!
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ParticipantI remember reading that in the Times last week ……Woaw eh!…..I can imagine already what it could look like and what it probably will eventually look like, especially if the monopoly of Scott Tallon and Walker have anything to do with it! ………..Doh!
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ParticipantThe best Irish building ever ……has to be Newgrange….heh heh!
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ParticipantI suppose a building that can termed as a ”landmark” is a building which is usually different from it’s immediate surroundings. It may serve some importance, usually larger in scale and acts as a focal point. In Georgian Dublin, the Custom House (which met planning problems), The Four Courts, The Pepper Cannister Church, City Hall etc …all act as landmarks and focal points breaking up the regular uniformity of the red brick Georgian houses.
This is the basis of all towns and cities I suppose with the important buildings acting as the focal points, ie Churches, Town Halls, Banks etc….
Nowadays there is an emphasis on scale as well as unusual form and shape, …..(with a touch of Hollywood and high tech SCI FI) to catch the eye as the architects babies scream for attention on the skyline!
(and which we lack here in Ireland hence the regular blandness even in emerging developments that could have great potential……. ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz eternally!)GregF
ParticipantThese Georgian societies, An Taisce , the Green party, etc…..are absolute futile. When it really matters they are hopeless….ie FitzWilliam Street, Wood Quay in the past as well as the likes of shoddy non publized developments which always get the go ahead and are springing up everywhere today.
They object to the big publicised developments….so as to get the Kudos!
They susposedly espouse the classical virtues of symmetry, proportion etc. in architecture…..but really know fuck all about it. Shampers and Sushi anyone….what great talking points.
It is this outlook which has kept Dublin and other Irish towns stunted and has even led to the destruction of their historical fabric.
Having artless ignorant gombeen politicians does not help either!
Shame on the lot of them for it’s the city in the end that suffers!GregF
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