GregF
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- jimg wrote:GregF, I guess it’s a matter of priorities. I couldn’t care less if foreigners “scoff” or go ooh-ah. I couldn’t care less whether it’s a good place for office christmas parties. I have no particular sentimental attachement to the place either]
Your entitled to your opinion, but its worth listening to other peoples opinions now and again and it isn’t a bad thing to consider johnny foreigner s opinion of our housekeeping here on the Emerald Isle now and again. There’s always room for improvement and raising the bar setting higher standards whether in life, sport etc….
I’m sure the new Lansdowne Road will more than cater for the need of the REAL IRISH RUGBY SUPPORTERS too.
I would’nt say either that the new proposal will be limited to just 50,000 full stop. I’d say there will be the opportunity to increase the capacity somewhat. It’s still at the planning stage and they don’t want to frighten the residenets by saying that it will hold 70,000 or whatever. Each step at a time.
@Thomond Park wrote:
I can’t believe it cost 20m that sounds like a price from Abbotstown and not HQ
Read it here yerself….http://www.gaa.ie/page/croke_park.html (under the heading Hill 16)
jimg…I was at the Celtic Cup final earlier this year at Lansdowne Road and I understand the sentimantality about the place but in reality I just thought the place was a right kip….It was an embarrasment too, my foreign mates could’nt get over it either. They scoffed at the place. The family silver in this instance really lets us down. My firm had it’s Xmas party in the clubhous 2 years ago and my jasus, what a total dive. Cream smoke stained ceilings, manky smelly carpets. The decking outside was rotting where it never got a coat of preservative. Surely standards in the country have come on. We are no longer materially poor or poor of mind.
As the European City of Culture year is nearly over for Cork, would Corkonians say that it was an overall success ?
What achitectural jewels have sprung up adding to the cities architecture?
Do Corkonians feel fully urbanely urbanized now in a European sense?[Quote:its a real pity that hill 16 couldnt have been finished to the same standard as the cusack, hogan and the canal end, it gives the stadium an unfinished look.]
I’m disappointed with the new Hill 16 too….it just looks ill fitting. I think the architects made a bit of a dog’s bollocks of it really. I was at a few of the Dubs matches this year and sitting high up in both the Cusack and Hogan stands I could take a good look at it. Considering the constraints with the railwayline etc…but firstly, there is a gaping hole either side of the terrace where it does’nt connect with the Hogan and Cusack stands. I think these should have been filled in. Secondly, the terrace appears lob-sided with the electronic screen, the bunker and the flag ploes placed where the old Nally Stand was. (Whats the bunker for in any way?) I think a bit of symmetry should have been applied and the screen, etc placed way up in line behind the goal. This might have given a better flow to the terrace. Thirdly, the little piece of terrace stuck in the corner beside the bunker and electronic screen just looks rediculous. I think the disjointed Hill 16 takes from the rest of the stadium. For 20 odd million euro it could have been visually better.
I’d say that the Havelock Square part of the ground in question is deliberately slightly reduced in the image so as to take the harm out of it and not frighten the residents. I’d say when it’s built it won’t be so low as in the image. Besides this end of the ground will always be available for further enlargement should the residents die/move off in years to come. There will always be the potential to enlarge the capacity of the ground. They can’t say that now either else the residents will be really up in arms.
Ah, I bet ye’ll be saying ”I supported Lansdowne Road” when it’s built …….will ye go on outta that Dodger.
Sure our Government is rolling in millions of euro, bout time they wasted some of it on sport as well as unused electronic voting boxes, etc…..
If ye thought that the population of Scotland was 15 million people, I think ye should get back to the school books and do a bit more researching and learning. Ye’ll see reason then.dig yourself out of your provincial arses and look to the future folks …[/QUOTE wrote:Well said Rory!It’s a case of Croker having to handle the games while Lansdowne is being redeveloped, else they’ll be played abroad. The GAA are kindly giving the FAI and the IRFU a dig out in other words, else the games and revenue goes to Britain, which would be ludicrous. Also the locals in the Croke Park area would object to so many games and events. There is somewhat a cap on the amount of games and concerts that can be played there!
Wales is a different case to Ireland. There would be no point in building 2 Millennium Stadia in Cardiff, especially with the new Wembley Stadium due for completion next year. The Cardiff Stadium will be used less and it is in debt too. Wales has only a small population and 2 major field sports, not 4 like us. The English tax payer would not fork out this money.
….just to add the population of Scotland is about 5 million and is due to fall below that ….the population of the island of Ireland is 5.5 million and continuely growing. Lansdowne Road will be enthusiastically used when redeveloped just as the magnificant Croke Park is . It will not be a white elephent .
…..and Celtic Park, Ibrox, Murrayfield or Hampden Park are not falling down.
I believe that Dublin needs 2 stadiums or even more (or why not develop a secondary multipurpose stadium outside Dublin) If Croke Park was solely used for all field games (Gaa Football, Hurling, Soccer, Rugby) it’s playing surface would greatly suffer. Also there are times too when major games in either of the 4 field sports clash. If ye look at Scotland which has about the same population as ourselves but yet only 2 field sports (Soccer, Rugby) it has an ample amount of decent stadia that are reasonably used. Glasgow has Celtic Park , Ibrox and Hampden Park and not forgetting Murrayfield in Edinburgh as well as Hibs and Hearts grounds
I think the new Lansdowne Road proposal with its undulating curvy ”organic” like roof makes Croker look kinda dated.
@murphaph wrote:
RGDATA make my blood boil, arrrggghh…..just thinking about them……conspiring
I hate going to Landsdowne now-the charm of the place wore off on me years ago-it’s old and decrepit.I hate the place too, as well as the RDS – old and decrepit , and the Point Depot – old and decrepit glorified warehouse.
A few more images ….http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/photocategory.asp?PCID=34
http://www.irishrugby.ie/newspage/65026.html
Looks good too…..looks ”futuristic”….now go and build it and hump the neighbours.
About time the Memorial Gardens were given attention. This great attraction to the city has been overlooked for too long. A proper entrance would be very fitting. It was a shame the way they ran the dual carriageway through chopping off the original entrance.
I wonder whats in store for the Garden of Rememberance on Parnell Square. It’s entrance is shite too. Remarkable how such a basic thing as an archway (used since the dawn of civilization) add greatly to entrances and such…ie St. Stephans Green entrance.
