GrahamH
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Unfortunately off-white/cream is just not an option – it’ll get absolutely filthy in a matter of weeks. Any regular Loop Line users will know only too well just how dirty the interior of the bridge is at close quarters. All that dirt will flow down the sides in the rain over time.
The two-tone grey scheme is a nice idea, if not perhaps a bit too similar to what we already have – the light grey in particular would look very well on the latticework contrasting with the dark piers.
However I propose a nice bottle green with the slightest of metallic sheens 🙂
A classic colour that would match the IFSC very well – unfortunately the Custom House verdigris is just too gaudy a shade to be replicated!We all have something of an illusion as to how things were in the 19th century – with everything only either being black or white. So we paint all ironwork, street furniture and major pieces of infrastruture black, and paint all windows and Victorian interiors white – nothing could be further from how it was. The era was a riot of colour, albeit of a mildly depressing variety 🙂
I think we ought to make a feature of the Loop Line, not hide it.
Green for me, assuming it’s not going to be too much on those huge piers.
Did it affect Catholic churches in Britain and elsewhere in Europe to the same extent Praxiteles do you know?
And how did this reversal of furtiune come about Alan – from being in a position where the client ‘tried, tried, tried and tried’ but failed to make it stack up financially?
Is it a change about in their circumstances in which case there’s no need to comment of course, or did you justy ‘tweak’ the project? The main elevation (well what’s now your main elevation :)) has changed anyway…
The Rotun…oh wait 😡
Isn’t it just infuriating? Don’t you just wish you could drag the whole inner city north of Parnell St like a giant rug 100 metres eastwards? Can’t be that difficult in this day and age surely…
Chesterfield Avenue.
Things aren’t quite as The Sunday Times might have us believe – as JJ says pretty much everything is still there. Just the central boards (not even their hoardings) are gone. Very eerie looking:
So there’s work to go yet.
Heineken is still to the east:
…and these yokes of course to the west, on either side:
The view from O’Connell Bridge on a miserable January morning:
And just by chance I passed this on Tara St, so certainly the CC/I
Really?! Got a pic? Yes there were proper studios in there by the time the GPO opened. It was refurbished again in the 50s, when shudder-inducing gloss painted partitions with bubbled glass went in to the office section. The place was falling down round their ears by the time Donnybrook beckoned.
What a bizarre photograph! Out of interest, what the heck started that craze for palm trees in the 70s? Package holidays?!
No suburban house of the era is complete without one in the middle of the front lawn.One interesting snippet of info about Little Denmark Street is that in 1926 2RN, Ireland’s first broadcasting service (later Radio
Just on the interior, did anyone ever knock (okay rap with your knuckles) against the interior columns of the building? You’d assume them to be of Portland stone, but they sound decidedly hollow! Presumably timber, indeed were they not early 19th century I would have thought them to have something of a cast resin quality!
Very strange – iron pillars encased in Doric timber shrouds?Ah, the extension’s on that side, to the rear. Glad I made a mistake so 😮
Hard to make out much of the exterior there, and nothing on their site…
Looks rather cluttered and confusing, but the materials may resolve themselves.Just realised – the clock in the middle must be gone too 😮
Now that was a worthy feature: so very handy for Tara and Connolly users. It should definitely be replaced with a new, well-designed timepiece – it used to keep excellent time, along with O’Connell Bridge House’s clock.Brilliant news this – roll on the repainting, when was the last time it was done wonder – what period paint scheme is that dead grey and cream – 50s?
(:))It’s an interesting case – to what extent will ABP take on board liturgical concerns I wonder?
How do they decide/how are they in a position to decide (presuming they consider it at all)) as to whether the reordering is necessary or not?So the soundbite continues to reign supreme in the Irish media… 🙂
This needs to be retitled the polemic thread.
So very well articulated MT, and humourously, albeit such a depressing issue.Perhaps the problem is not as bad in Northern Ireland because of the generally more prudent, urban-oriented mindset that permeates British administration. And yet even then they find NI appalling.
I’ll never forget the mortification felt when watching the BBC’s ‘Restoration’ series and the episode where they came to NI. First thing on the list was to convey the ‘curious’ nature of planning on this island – aptly demonstrated by Griff standing in front of a dilapidated thatched cottage, extolling its charms, and how things are changing – ‘to this’…camera swings round to reveal glaring squat bungalow at the end of a sweeping drive with full scale heritage lanterns populating the front garden.Similarly, as mentioned before, the highly embarrassing ‘Location Location Location’ visit to Ireland. As much as the novelty of the programme wore off after the 76th series, it was nonetheless so very notable to see the difference between rural property in Ireland and Britain. It’s a series that encapsulates British residential architecture and planning so well – you just don’t get the one-off housing over there that you get here. It just doesn’t happen. Virtually every house they visited here was a one-off in a field, in contrast to tightly knitted villages, genuine farmhouses and small towns usually featured on the British version. Both on television, and from experience of travelling through Britain so many times I can certainly say which model I prefer.
The UK is for the most part made up of small villages in rural areas, many thousands by all accounts, but not sprawling one-off houses. The fact that they have come through three major economic booms since the War and still have emerged relatively unscathed is a shocking indictment of the state of affairs in this country. Housing there is grouped around villages, or in villages. You also do not get ribbon development to the extent you get here, nor isolated housing estates which are simply everywhere in this country.
Not all is perfect over there of course – yes they still build low-density housing estates, yes the standard of houses and their design is arguably even worse than here, but it is nothing like the scale we have to put up with in Ireland.The fact that things are continuing here after ten years of explosive construction, and are worse than ever, is all the more embarrassing. It is a national pride issue as much as it is of environmental and aesthetic concern.
Thought at first there that new trivisions were planned for the bridge as the ‘good news’ 😮 🙂
Great to hear, all we need know is a timescale….
Yes when Liberty Hall and the Custom House are lined up together they do tend to look ridiculous, although they are an ‘item’ at this stage – how could we possibly break them up now? 🙂
It’s interesting how to an outsider the position of Liberty Hall must be just as offensive as 1965, whilst for Dubliners the pair have entered a certain popular consciousness (okay, for some anyway :)), and acquired quite a different meaning.
Really the setting of the Custom House is long gone anyway – for me it’s either a dominant role in that whole area for the building that is required, or else for it to take its place alongside everything else, which is what has happened. As successful as the IFSC is, it is equally damaging to views of the building from the west, piling up behind it. But in the context of just accepting a built up environment for the Custom House, it works as well as nearly anything could.
The best view of Liberty Hall is definitely from the Ha’penny/Millenium Bridge area – a great feature on the skyline just as the quays begin to lower off into the distance on that bend.
Going to miss this sign though 🙂
Yes – I thought it very interesting on another site that contributors were justifying their self-building by saying that they weren’t going to be subjected to ‘developer crap’ that’s going up everywhere. Now eh…..I know developers don’t have the best architectural record going, but……coming from self-builders……
It really confirms it for me that the interior is king. I was in speculatively built houses in Kerry during the summer, put up by farmers as a ‘nest-egg’ because there’s no real money in the farm anymore. Again, monstrous from the exterior, and completely unworkable exposed gardens on the side of a hill, but lavishly fitted out inside.
That’s what I personally hate so much about most one-offs – a one metre perimeter is ‘tamed’ around the house with concrete paths and gravel and drains etc etc, as if the house has fallen down from outer space, and then the rest of the ‘site’ just falls away to scrub again.As long as the interior is high-spec, and a safety net ‘moat’ of concrete is built around the house, then you’re protected from the wilds of the countryside.
@Breen wrote:
armies of technicians roaming the countryside
lol 🙂
So very sad, but so very true.That’s a frighteningly good point Breen about the phasing out of CAP – what the heck sort of impact is that going to have with sites being sold off willy nilly?
Can’t remember off the top of my head, but the figures for the amount of farmers anticipated to leave agriculture over the next twenty years are simply staggering – it’s only going to be large holdings that remain. Which is even worse, as it’s the smaller farms that seem to be more damaging with regard to site speculation.Fair enough point about rural living Breen – just not for me I suppose! My point about the roads though is that as more houses are built, the more dangerous rural roads become as there’s an increased level of traffic, and usually speeding traffic to boot. Which in a vicious circle-like way simply encourages even more people to use their cars and avoid ever-more dangerous roads.
Not to lump the problem on the shoulders of one-offers, but I can certainly see how levels of drink driving are so high in this country. How many rural dwellers are willing to walk more than half a mile to their local and back?@ctesiphon wrote:
Could they be for wheelchair taxi purposes?
Well considering what is probably the State’s largest taxi rank sits about four metres away, with a dedicated pedestrian crossing and wheelchair-friendly kerbline, it would certainly be a pity if they were built just for this reason.
As for Aircoach, surely Cathal Brugha St, again but a handful of metres away from the main door of the Gresham would be capable of catering for residents’ needs? If Aircoach terminate other services here (I don’t know, do they?), well surely O’Connell St is the last place they ought to be ending up – again more ‘Pillarism’ as Alek Smart has referred to.
Again, it remains to be seen if the bays have much impact – they may only require the uprooting of one tree, though coupled with the Cathal Brugha break right next to the Gresham, it’s an unfortunate arrangement.
It seems parking bays are being provided for the two hotels because everyone else has one – the Westin, the Merrion, the Conrad, the Shelbourne…
