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ParticipantWho owns College House, and why are they not willing to sell?
Is Screen part of the same development?GrahamH
ParticipantThanks for your reply Lexington – and for that definitive Liberty Hall answer Andrew :), although is the plant section really 4m in height, or is there a difference between the building height you quoted and the sea level height?
@lexington wrote:
developers jumped at the chance to take advantage of this new policy – allowing them maximise their development potential
That’s certainly one way of putting the making of vast profits yes π
It’s interesting that high-rise is slipping into city development plans almost unnoticed – of course yes, high-rise Irish style, but it certainly reflects a growing acceptance of the form, something that perhaps was taboo even 10 years ago.
As is ever so slightly evident, I’m utterly ignorant of Cork…amongst other things….but what was it’s tallest commercial/office building prior to the recent boom?
Any pictures too would be good – thanks.GrahamH
ParticipantSheltering behind a mountain is one thing, but thermal proofing?!
Reminds me of the ‘Bumpkin Billionares’ comic sketch where they erect a rain cover over the city of Manchester, supposedly Britain’s wettest city, and tourists start flocking there π
GrahamH
ParticipantIt was all going so well till the name was mentioned :rolleyes:
Two days early for April Fools so it must be a real proposal…:eek:
GrahamH
ParticipantYes, the delightful Dearey’s is just one – who’s future use is uncertain as a result of a recent sale.

These two late Georgians are other favourites:

Of course the town’s Pro-Cathedral does without saying – modelled on King’s College Chapel, on which there’s a good article in the UK forum at the minute:

The town lacks decent contemporary architecture unfortunately – most built at the minute is happy-clappy stuff, not least the woeful new Louth CC HQ.
Saying that, the new courthouse extension by Brian O’Halloran Associates works very well (low granite walls and ramps etc aside)GrahamH
ParticipantOr the O’Connell Bridge House site – if only we could get round the irritating snag of there being an 12 storey ship moored on it π
Well from a landmark building to a landmark streetscape, here’s O’Connell Street’s most pompous terrace being shown up for what it is – under construction. It is the block between Eden Quay and Abbey Street, which was started in around 1918 and finished in 1923. The construction was the foil to public demonstrations during the Treaty years, and poignantly formed the backdrop to Collins’ funeral in 1922 – he never saw it completed, not to mention half of Upper O’Cll St which was in ruins at the time of his death.
Interesting to note the absence of Clery’s parapet in the distance the first 1920-21 picture, as well as the lack of the distinctive now Ulster Bank copper dome in the second. Eden quay is also being rebuilt.
(They’re all a bit grainy)
GrahamH
ParticipantUlster Bank – it is magnificent alright, the chimneys in particular.
It was well designed, so as to be taller than the others and act as a centrepiece for the terrace.GrahamH
ParticipantWhere Boyler?
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ParticipantLexington, has high-rise even been an issue in Cork?
Has the solution (if it can be described as such) to the Dublin battle that’s taken place over the decades, been neatly applied to Cork just as it begins to take off?
That is, allow it in designated areas and otherwise forget it? Not that that’s exactly happening in Dublin – but it is interesting that tall buildings elsewhere in Ireland are causing little to no controversy at all.Is everyone just fed up at this stage and are just saying ah sure let them at it, or is it an acceptance that tall buildings anywhere can be acceptable as long as they’re clumped together or are used independently as ‘landmarks’? Or is this just a passing fad and will public opinion swing back aagin in 5-10 years I wonder?
On Liberty Hall, does the height include the plant on top of the frilly roof? That’s always been a question, think Andrew Duffy asked it before but no one knew…
GrahamH
ParticipantThe greatest loss to the Four Courts is its restricted portico. If that had been allowed to project out in true Roman style as intended, it would have truly given the building the temple-like quality it struggles to achieve as is.
It’s such a crying shame – imagine the depth and power it would’ve contributed to the raking view of the building, minus the trees.Still, it’s still the most picturesque of all the classicals in the capital, if not the country.
GrahamH
ParticipantAlas not all the banks on College Green are the prettiest in the world…
Dundalk is a beautiful town, easily has one of the finest collections of Georgian-Victorian transitional architecture in Ireland.
The people unfortunately have a bad reputation but their town is magnificent.GrahamH
ParticipantNever thought of that – good point, unfotunately.
At least the Abbey would be consuming one of them though, to clutch at straws.GrahamH
ParticipantOlder Dubliners are very self-deprecating – suppose it stems from the fact that Dublin genuinely was falling down around their ears in the 60s, 70s & 80s – particularly those latter two decades.
The negativity is now vented through litter, dirt, on certain types of people, on certain areas of the city etc.
But the place has come on in leaps and bounds and many parts of it are exceptionally beautiful, most parts being very pleasant. It is a different place even to that of 5-7 years ago.To an outsider I’d say Dublin does have an air of a provincial British city in terms of its built environment; I can see it in the faces of tourists every day, but anyone who knows anything about these two nations will notice just how different Dublin is – on a host of levels, not least its architecture which has a uniquely Irish tinge to it, even if it has its roots in UK design.
To try to see the city from an outsider’s perspective all you have to do is remember what you thought of the place as a child – it always works for me. In terms of the scale of the city, not knowing its history or its geography or its people, and in terms of defining the place through key buildings and the general blur of the streetscapes, a child’s view comes very close to that of a newcomer.
Now unfortunately all I remember is a gritty, scary, smelly dump of a place littered with derelict sites and propped up buildings which doesn’t bode to well for my theory, but that was quite a few years ago…Sure Dublin’s great π
GrahamH
ParticipantThis was really the only reason why Parnell Square was considered in the first place. Having them close to each other, whether it be on the square or O’Cll St would be nice from a ‘cultural quarter’ perspective, but not absolutely necessary.
Either way, people who come to the city move all over the place anyway – going to the Docklands is perhaps too far but another site within the existing city centre is just as accessible.
Again Hawkins – if only – is only at the other end of O’Cll St.GrahamH
ParticipantDesmond Guinness had a few choice phrases too…
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ParticipantThink of the views from the top floor over the square – I wonder if you can see down O’Connell St from up there…
Ironic that the servants in all the Palace Row houses had the best views πGrahamH
ParticipantThanks for that.
Just had a glance through – particularly like the idea of focusing attention on the Panell Monument, using it as a central feature at that crazy junction.
Not sure about the ‘urban pergola’ (excuse me) on the east side and how that’s going to work out in the context of reassembling the square.The proposed entrance to the Garden of Rememberance looks great – why that wasn’t done in the first place I do not know.
And the wooded corner behind has always been a wasted space – good to see it being put to a good use at last.GrahamH
ParticipantThese are on display in the Civic Offices TLM?
When you say the garden won’t be as sunken anymore – to what level roughly is it to be raised?GrahamH
ParticipantIt’s a lovely building alright – the terracotta panels on it have unusual Eygptian-style urns on them as well as other interesting detail. It looks at its best in the evening sun when it comes round the corner from behind the AIB opposite and it glows red with the sun flaring up the windows.
Yes it’s a pity its not in use and that it hasn’t been sold – probably because the same money would get you a similar building in a much better location than there. Even if it’s only a hop across the road from O’Cll St – with the Parnell St junction there it might as well be a mile away.
Hopefully things will change with the Parnell Square phase coming on stream shortly.GrahamH
ParticipantAnd did you read about this or just ‘happen’ to notice the application in the window eh? π
That is interesting news – the shopfront is grand as it is but any change from that pukey green will be more than welcome.Our bollard friends have certainly been round the block – here they are in 1969 desperately trying to get in with the ‘it’ crowd, pictured slinking up alongside a fashionable young lady – alas she’s not interested π
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