Frank Taylor
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@JJ wrote:
I was fortunate in having the opportunity to see some of the feasibility study plans for the metro stations a few years back ( was it really so long ? )
The station was located north of the spire and took up the whole width of the median. This would have to be built using cut and cover.
At the time the station was originally planned, the idea was to intersect with Tara Street DART. So they needed to put the metro station at the north end of O’Connell street to get the angle right to aim for Tara. Now that the DART intersection is Stephen’s Green, they can build elsewhere on O’Connell Street. Although the station will be cut and cover, the metro line won’t be because it will have to be far deeper to get across the river.
@notjim wrote:
i think the question re the green is not about the station but whether the tunnelling machine is being inserted there.
The RPA boss, Frank Allen, told the Dail transport committe last week that the metro tunneling machine would terminate in Stephens Green and not emerge. He even suggested that it could be turned on a few years later and pointed towards Kimmage. I guess there’ll be two of them given that it’s twin bore.
He stated that underground stations are far cheaper to build by excavation rather than being mined, so he would expect that stations like O’Connell Street would be built by surface excavation, so that no part of them was under a building.
The fact that Stephens Green will have two intersecting stacked underground lines, indicates to me that they are going to dig a huge pit. RPA has said that their platforms will be 90m long and IE want at least twice that length for interconnector platforms. Can you imagine the amount of digging and the amount of archaeological rubbish that will be unearthed? Given that the sides of the green are about 250m long, I’d expect all of Stephen’s Green to be dug up- to howls of protest.
It was Cowen who made a comparison with Grand Central and it reminds me that Grand Central has become a psychological centre point for New York.
Brian Cowen said Stephen’s Green station would be “a New York-style Grand Central Station”. It needs an underground metro station, an underground DARt station and a Luas terminus. A humungous hole will have to be dug.
Grand Central is an amazing place. I saw a survey of New Yorkers where they were asked where they would go in New York to meet someone if both parties only knew the date and time of the appointment but not the location. Something like 50% of them chose the information office at Grand Central Station.
Anyhow, I hope Dublin invests in a showpiece central station and not another Connolly.
Why would you take a working public building and turn it into a mausoleum? I suspect it’s another threat to An Post and all semistates that if they go on strike, the state will evict them and privatise them.
Glasgow has a motorway (M8) running from the airport right through the centre and then on to Edinburgh. There are
junctions and flyovers in the city centre. A lot of beautiful old sandstone buildings were demolished to make way for this road following the logic that knocking down poor people’s houses eliminates poverty.The roads and bridges are now wearing out (the reinforcing is rusting) and is being replaced. The road moves pretty fast most of the time but there are long queues at rush hour to join the motorway.
Central Glasgow has very wide streets compared to Dublin and can cope with higher volumes of car traffic.Here are some photos
http://members.tripod.com/m8motorway/m8_glasgow_j19.htmThere was a small mention of archiseek in Saturday’s business section of the Irish Times, crediting this site with the news about the Aer Lingus building.
The illustrations looks great.
How often are two games >50,000 taking place on the same day in Dublin?
Why are all large games not just played in Croke Park with some smaller GAA played in Lansdowne? Time to bury the hatchet and the childishness.@dave123 wrote:
Where by having a free flow red cow junction , upgraded M50 and surronding roads into Meath, Kildare and Wicklow, which will be a relief to thousands of commuters.
low cost quick shemes for investing into public transport such as metro/rail to airport and high frequency travel by the M1 to M50 for truckes & Hueston station to Connolly underground.Can you rephrase that, please? I can’t make it out.
Thanks
Is this site still owned by Dunnes Stores?
Further down the same street towards Dame Street, are the large offices of the revenue which must rank amongst the most revolting buildings in Dublin.
Was there some kind of serious structural problem withthe Ballymun towers? Something about experimental use of large sheets of precast concrete that then cracked?
@ctesiphon wrote:
Did he say “We are an income rich country but not a wealth rich country” as an explanation for lack of investment in transport infrastructure, or am I imagining it? And more importantly, what did he mean?
He means that Ireland may have a high per capita income compared to other counties but that because that income has risen only in recent years, we don’t have great infrastructural wealth built up over years of investment. OECD comparisons that have shown ireland to be rich in income terms don’t count the fact that money has only started flowing recently.
@Graham Hickey wrote:
I found it interesting that out of all development in the area, despite the negative associations St Theresa’s Gardens is one of the most attractive residential schemes you came come across in Dublin, made up of rows and rows of elegant wine-red blocks geometrically sited on green lawns flanking the canal – all marching into the distance.
St Teresa’s Gardens is off Donore Avenue and not by the canal. Are you thinking of The Dolphin House flats in Dolphins Barn?
St Teresa’s GardensI’ve passed this development for many years now and have always admired it, though admittedly never been inside – must go in some time.
What is striking is how exclusive and po-faced this scheme could be in the hands of a developer, even with the same architecture – ‘waterside setting’ ‘nestling on a mature site’ ‘manicured lawns and walks’ ‘tens minutes from the city centre’ etc etc.The buildings lived in by the poor become associated with their poverty in the mind of the public. Eventually people see some kind of causal relationship between the architecture and the poverty. At some point the building is knocked down by the city, and the residents rehoused in another style of building, in the hope this will cure their poverty. Rich people sometimes move into their abandoned poverty blocks which then gain associations with being chic. eg Yuppies living in Trellick tower, the many poorhouses and orphanages in London now converted to loft apartments etc.
Do contraflow bike lanes require a kerb to separate bikes from car traffic? It would seem dangerous to cycle against traffic without it.
