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December 10, 2009 at 7:53 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773338foremanjoeParticipant
@apelles wrote:
All the hacking this church has recieved over the years has certainly left its toll, but the thing I find most objectionable about it would have to be the rough dirty grey plaster dash sprayed onto the main ceiling areas & up into the dome. Ironicly enough the Church is built in an area in Westport called ‘The Shambles’.
Coincidence apelles, not irony. Has Ed Byrne taught you nothing?
And go easy on Praxiteles, I fear that if you take his churches and their perceived import from him, he may be left with nothing. Poor soul.
On a more relevant point, tis an awful shame about the loss of that gothic facade.
It would tie in very well with the clocktower and the octagon in the town, and would no doubt enhance the appeal of the already beautiful mall.foremanjoeParticipantI don’t know where it is at all, but that limestone pediment looks like it’s on top of a gatepost or a pillar rather than a building.
Otherwise those are some mighty slabs of stone.foremanjoeParticipant@Global Citizen wrote:
Totally off topic here but I have to get this off my chest.
THIERRY HENRY IS A CHEATING BOLLOX. :mad::mad::mad:
Now – Back to seat colours.
That’s not too far off the point Dude, after all he was the architect of Ireland’s downfall.
Paul McShane has to be culpible too though, he got caught wrong side.
In fact, I’m not sure that fella even knows where the right side is.foremanjoeParticipant@johnglas wrote:
Now you’re getting personal… (The Premier League is a bunch of overpaid, terminally self-admiring people who can kick a ball a bit, and…? And you lot over there actually watch it instead of getting a life!)
I’ll be honest with you John, the only interest I have in the premier league is down to my fantasy football team. Aside from that I really couldn’t give a toss!
foremanjoeParticipant@johnglas wrote:
Oh God; it’s bad enough to be bored by football everywhere else, we now have an extended ‘discussion’ about whether or not you can see the pitch if you stand up, or go on tiptoe, or lean sideways, or stand on somebody’s shoulder….
However, unlike the beautiful game, Gaelic is just a lot of country boys who can’t keep their socks up running madly all over the pitch, knocking lumps out of one another… Never saw the attraction, myself.You’ve also never watched Kevin Kilbane/any Sam Allardyce team play ‘The Beautiful Game’.
foremanjoeParticipant@johnglas wrote:
Oh God; it’s bad enough to be bored by football everywhere else, we now have an extended ‘discussion’ about whether or not you can see the pitch if you stand up, or go on tiptoe, or lean sideways, or stand on somebody’s shoulder….
However, unlike the beautiful game, Gaelic is just a lot of country boys who can’t keep their socks up running madly all over the pitch, knocking lumps out of one another… Never saw the attraction, myself.You’ve obviously never been to Copper’s John.
Forget Croke Park, Copper Face Jack’s on a county colours night is the Mecca of any GAA player worth his salt.I wish I was on that N17…
foremanjoeParticipant@reddy wrote:
This is rubbish. There’s a healthy dose of criticism not cynicism on the site.
I agree that there is a large amount of criticism evident on these fora, unfortunately the majority of that criticism is projected towards individual contributors, with the cynicism being reserved for the architecture.
Architecture is such a subjective field that even in real world situations it is impossible have a conclusive debate on the worth of a building. Add anonymity and subtract physical interaction and most debates spiral into pointless mud-slinging contests. If one was to judge the architecture profession by the squabbles evident on this site, a positive impression would be a very improbable outcome.
(This isn’t directed at you reddy, it’s just a generalisation.)
foremanjoeParticipant@pippin101 wrote:
Well the Irish sure know how to take themselves down.
True enough pippin, there is an unhealthy amount of nay-saying on this site. You’re quite fortunate that no-one has launched a personal attack on you yet for being an idiot or blind. (You’re obviously not)
In fairness there have been plenty of positive comments on this particular thread, and the poll shows that the vast majority of people are optimistic about the project, so hopefully the flaws of the stadium can be smoothed out a bit before completion.
I have to say the vista from Ringsend was the one that I was really looking forward to as this project was developing, and I still haven’t seen it yet, so I’m really excited by your comment.
foremanjoeParticipant@reddy wrote:
I think they just chickened out on engineering something amazing. It can be done. (I’m sure it was money related but still…)
Looks so inelegant now. 😡
Agreed reddy.
I think anyone watching the recent World Athletics Championships and comparing the slick roof on the Olympic Stadium with this blunt example would have to feel a little agrieved that more care was not put into it.Again the comparison with Thomond is telling in the position of the truss in relation to the roof, in Thomond the truss sits above the roof and gives the stadium its strong outward expression. Unfortunately in Lansdowne the truss lurks suspiciously under the roof and makes no positive aesthetic contribution to the stadium.
Tis a pity.
foremanjoeParticipant@BTH wrote:
The roof structure just looks so over-engineered…
I think if you compare the two renders the problem appears to be that the first version wasn’t engineered at all! :p
The whole steel frame just floats under the roof canopy.
The new structural solution is similar to the one employed at Thomond Park (sorry), with the two large steel spans tied onto bell-like support pillars at either end.
Perhaps someone could find out if the the same company won the steel frame contract for both stadia?And why did they remove the tricolor from the second render? Is that not going to happen now? 🙁
Maybe it is to appease our Northern brethren.foremanjoeParticipant@Starch wrote:
though I’m still not convinced by the roof structure…..it’s looks like it will indeed not offer a complete unobstructed view of play
I think you may be right Starch, those nosebleed seats will just about have a full view of the pitch judging by those photos, it would be like watching a match with your hood pulled down just above your eyes, only you can’t push this one back up out of the way!
In general though the stadium is starting to look really exciting. The structure and cladding system are intriguing, especially the semi-open cladding around the back of the stands.
foremanjoeParticipantHang the bankers! Hang em high!
Maybe just have public stocks in Smithfield, put a few developers or Taoisigh in them.
It might generate the economic boost that the fruit markets need to survive?
It would draw massive crowds to Smithfield.
It would give the public a sense of satisfaction with the justice system.A narrow plank could also be put across the Liffey at the bottom of Smithfield and criminals could be made to walk it; a solution to the North/South divide in that area with crowds on both sides of the river shaking the plank!
Would that solve most of Smithfields problems?!?
foremanjoeParticipantHow about an ‘Outlaw’ museum?
How big would that have to be?
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