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“Height on its own is not an aesthetic quality.”
I believe that it is. Both height and size are qualities that have long impressed people, and therefore become something to be admired.
Examples are plenty. The WTC would have been plain if it was ten storeys. The height made it attractive (and the fact that there were two – where’s the logic in that??). To go back in time a little, the pyramids would have been fairly twee if they’d been the size of a local Spar.
Height is an attractive quality. We’re allowed to be fascinated by it. Being up high is also nice. Why on earth would you think differently???
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I’ll concede that the DCC isn’t the ultimate in design, but that’s not the point here. I like a number of it’s qualities, regardless of whether or not they’re cutting edge. I personally appreciate size being as a pure factor, so the DCC building would actually appeal to me more than a smaller but “smarter” building.
If you’re going to get your goats got over buildings in dublin being stuck in the past, then your goats are already as got as they can get. This place is screwed, and every time I visit London I have this belief firmly hammered home again (tough: I like London for all it’s screw ups – at least it’s got the balls to try). I picked a building that appealed to me, and although I understand that it’s not “super-duper”, I feel it’s still quite a worthy building for the reasons I mentioned above.
that make sense???
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I think we need more polls in this forum. People, when starting a thread, add the option of a poll if you think it will help….
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(they’re fun too!!!)
no it isn’t.
it looks excellent.I can’t really explain why it looks good, I just know it does. The proportions/height/length/colour/glass/door/pillary bit all come together to make something that causes my brain to releases happy pills. Lego apartments somehow fail to achieve these simple proportional values and details, and so they end up looking like poo poo. There are many excellent apartment blocks too, but they’re in the minority.
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If it’s got to be the last ten years I’ll also go with the DCC offices. But the Central Bank isn’t one bit happy about this negative time limitation….
least liked: all the crap lego ™ apartments.
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Global Omnipotence of Multi-National Corporations and their $ influence on Urban Planning regardless of any context to Site, City, Countryand Culture
Guh??? Sounds like more multi-national bashing. Whilst this might be a fair hobby to have, my interpretation is that all great buildings are generally created by the richest of the rich (big corporations/companies/governments/armies/dictators). So should we really be giving out about this???
But yes, the plan isn’t as big/deep as other countries. But I think the point that has stuck so far is that it’s a hell of a lot better than nothing. And I still like it. Even though it’s a little small.
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The rooves appear to be a metal horizontal gridding over glass, though it’s hard to make out (looking at a high zoom 35mm photo).
You’re dead right Greg. I was up Liberty with an assisting friend (running 12 optical zoom footage of the entire horizon) and we were far too excited for our own good. Available tall buildings: one of the things that I find most disappointing about the spike on O’Connell Street was that you can’t climb it. In a city where exposure to height is so rare, it would be great if the few buildings we have would really pander to it. People like being up high….
Wow, I’m having a bad grammar night….
Alfie Byrne road sadly sounds a little off my beaten track. I’m a no car person, which rules out a lot of nipping about. But’s it’s logged in my brain now, and I’m getting good at saying “hey let’s go down this road” to people I drive with.
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Very few interior Liberty shots I’m afraid. It’s a little bit tight inside, and some of it is just (narrow) corridor. The areas outside the elevators had nice wood floors, but generally it was too tight to really give a proper impression.
The observation deck closure was partially attributed to jumpers by our guide. Seems like it could be time to reconsider this idea, although I’m sure tourist traffic might punish the escalator waiting times a little. Beautiful view though.
Alfie Byrne Road will need some map examining, and I also want to have a look at that view from Connolly Station that was mentioned. Of course, I have to now photoshop and upload all the images taken yesterday, so it might be best I take it easy on the extra shots.
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Was up Liberty Hall today taking photos (over 300!!!). The Georges Quay Towers looked fantastic all the time, and I’ve really really taken to them at this stage. They’re just interesting from virtually all angles, and the night lights are a nice touch.
Liberty Hall is a little forlorn, but still very, very, very impressive. The main stairwell is a beauty, as are the little tiles on the roof. View is fantastic!!!! Sadly the observation deck is used for (wait for it) storage!!! Panoramic photos were taken from all angles covering the full 360, and the preliminaries look excellent.
Here are the towers!!!
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The cool thing about the join to Winstons is the segment of the old building that was left behind. I don’t know what it originally looked like, but I’m reasonably impressed by the two foot wide segment that has somehow managed to hang on for dear life.
I’d hate to see them take it away now….
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Call me a she-dog, but that’s the most unrealistic image I’ve ever seen. It gives me no idea of what the building will eventually look like because my brain starts screaming “DECEIT DECEIT DECEIT!!!!” as soon as I look at it. It also reminds me of Las Vegas?????
So I fear for the worse (or the more likely scenario of something just the same as it is now). The interior could use a lick of paint though…
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Ahhhh the Central Bank…..
It also suffers from the odd position of being just above a “hill”, so it looks taller from the north than it does from the south. Oddly taller again if you look at it from the upper storey of another building.
But on a more serius note – let’s think perspective. The Tara Street project really looks quite big when viewed from the more “western” touristy areas (liffey, keys etc). Perhaps there’s an argument that buildings further down the docks could be built much much taller, using the “it doesn’t look that much bigger than the Tara Street Building” (because it’s farther away)….
Perspective – this is small, this is far away.
The new weapon against nasty planning people….fjp
SWEET JESUS THE YELLOW!!!!!
Yeah, that’s the way I remeber it, although perhaps with a white roof or something. The big thingy behind the alter brought it all back too (and the strange lights). It’s a pleaseant church….
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The current church really is quite nice from the outside. Years of atheism has fogged my memories of the interior. The photograph above probably doesn’t do it real justice, since you’ll rarely find yourself flying above it in a helicopter.
But really, the tower (can’t call it a steeple) looks quite cool, and the domes on top look nice in profile. The bulk of the building is rarely seen, as there are no real access roads behind and to the sides.
All this is relative though. They probably could have built something nicer, but I’m pretty sure they could also have built something much, much, much worse.
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Hi 42
Yup, it’s all done on the old finepiux 1400. It generally gets the colour pretty alright, and then I hand correct the levels/curves/selective colour/saturation in photoshop.
To be honest, my present lack of money means that I have no idea of the current digital camera market. All I know is that mine is fast becoming obselete and I can’t afford a new one. The good things about the finepix are that it’s fairly small and has that optical zoom. The bad thing is that the wide angle tends to “pillowcase” the image, the night exposure max of 2 secs is too short, and sometimes the pictures can be a bit noisy and jpeg’d.
I just finished uploading the rest of the luas photos to my site, so anyone who wants to see the whole thing should pop by. I had to add 289 new photos. It took bloody ages……
Still though, that bridge does looks great.
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No doubt some of you were there tonight. I was the guy on top of the St. Vincent de Paul wall, just in case you were being exceptionally observant.
For those who weren’t there, the bridge now spans the entire junction. It looks extremely good (I understate). And somehow I managed to take a little over 250 photos of it in about two hours – a personal best/worst.
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(oops – images lost in a server incident: click my www link below and go the “dundrum” to see all the luas bridge photos)
oh my god
That’s just too weird
I probably ought to sign in there and get some clearance or something. That photo’s going to end up on my site in a few weeks otherwise….
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(and, of course, litter is wrong)
There’s a single lane roundabout at one end of the bypass, and the Taney Junction at the other. All it really does is deliver you that little further into the congestion that eternally awaits. So two lanes would have just created a bottleneck, as opposed to one big long thin bottle all the way.
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