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Participantappealing to the planning authority is a right but i think it relates to appeals to an bord pleanala. if the authority did it’s job right then there wouldn’t be rubbish built. mind you on that same tone it’s up to the professional’s not to design rubbish but here i suppose any woodwork teacher can call themselves architect’s and most of what they produce is absolute shite. so an bord is maybe a good way in that respect but it is open to abuse from small minded simpletons who have nothing better to do than object. in fact, who is an bord pleanala, how do you get on to it? are the public appointments, if so are they open to bribery( as we all know, cos we pay for these bloody tribunals,seems rife) , are the public servants? if so what qualifications and who dicided these where the best to review architecture.
sorry alan, getting off point there. but you all over there have to be careful in this regard. this is where i presume the rias or riba step up to the plate and make appointments or have some sort of input into the make-up of any such thing.
if it just appeals to local authorities, then there is a lot of unrest here. i know of 1 in particular, i amn’t involved so i can mention it, a hotel in a medium sized town in galway. no objectionis from anyone in the town or county at all. the 1 objection came from someone in kildare and went through the whole process and won it with an bord. this has agrevated everyone surronding the town as it has stopped vital economic investment, an addition to local amenities and how can someone so far away influence the growth and prosperity of a town. this has to be gaurded against as well. of course hippy’s of the earth or whatever there called want this, ths would no doubt happen within your communities as well.June 18, 2004 at 10:52 am in reply to: Which Irish political party do you trust most with the built environment? #743565FIN
Participantstill believe, and i think i said it before, we need a dictator. stop all this hippy crap and drag us into the 21st century. me for instance, personally i think i’ld make a great dictator….vote me….ha,ha… maybe i shold have stood, i make at least as much sense as dana anyway!!!!
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Participanttime team do it in 3 days!!!!!
what exactly did they find in waterford that was so amazing?FIN
ParticipantOriginally posted by Danielle
Everyone has seemed to forget to mention the atmosphere of the leadup to Landsdowne Road – theres notheing like it. Walking from town there is a road filled with people enjoying the atmosphere before the match. Every pub is cramped with people and its great to see the supporters mingling together before the big match. In my opinion it is this walk up to Lansdowne that really makes the day. No matter what match soccer or rugby theres always people in different jerseys together.that was mentioned.
Originally posted by Danielle
Matches in Landsdowne aren’t simply about winning or losing, they are about the atmosphere and having a good timewhat absolute nonsense. why play sport at all if it’s not about winning. what contributes to having a good time is your team winning.
Originally posted by Danielle
without this there wouldn’t be a need for a bigger stadium as there wouldn’t be enough supporters to fill it! So where would we be going if we set up anywhere else – especially Abbotstown? Lansdowne has it all.if we were winning every game we played then there would be the crowd. i would admit playing the likes of faroe islands and other such teams won’t pull the same amounts as france but i would suggest that when we play france croke park could be filled twice over with people wanting to see it. all this is abitrary as the decision was made ages ago.
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Participantr u serious???
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ParticipantOriginally posted by Devin
I see that that bitter Galway architect is back on his An Taisce-hating hobby horse on Archiseek again. grow up fin.ahhh! devin honey… why do we fight so. i have never got off my hobby-horse as u so ably put it.and i don’t hate every thing ye do. i think ye do sterling work on our beechs.
why don’t u go back into the dept. of environment and beg again for some more scraps. then maybe u might be able to make a clear objection that actual relates to a specific project and not blanket every new build around what ye describe as of historical interest. just because i’m not middle aged, balding and fat doesn’t mean i have to grow up. i could say welcome to the 21st century to u and all ur cronies. πwhile it’s true an t doesn’t reject decisions it is a worrying trend that an bord pleanala tend to side with them a lot. they have to be in bed together!!!:D
i know it’s a personal preference but i don’t see how a glass facade can detract from a stone building. for me it enhances the old rather than take away from it. but then again i ( if i may say so) take a modern approach to architecture, life and the world.FIN
Participantsounds good for cork. bout time
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Participantyea. i agree. although personally with the glazed facade i don’t think it would tower over the gaiety too much. of course all the images in the world won’t prove that. but it’s acedemic now as it’s rejected.i wish them well in the re-think
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ParticipantOriginally posted by J. Seerski
Well I’m sorry but that big heap was well shot down by an bord pleanala. It was a stump of glass that was highly illogical in form –what is highly illogical in form?
Originally posted by J. Seerski
In total, the design was demented and incoherent. Best refused! It would have made a joke of Sth King St – would have resembled a bland street in a forgotten city in northern Britain (there are so many)…..it is as paul said … it would have contrasted nicely with the gaiety.
Originally posted by J. Seerski
π π π Three cheers to An Taisce!for blankly appealing even though they didn’t have the street right.
for stopping progress into a more dynamic city.FIN
Participantlol… i know what u mean but unfortunately a big name architect has more selling power not only to joe public but to the councils as well.
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Participantahhhh! that classic an t. how fortunate that we have them to look after our best interests….but i’m not going to get into them again suffice to say TYPICAL.
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Participantmarketability has a lot to do with things now alright and big name architect’s bring in the crowds. he was on the radio last friday evening and to me, i must stress that, it sounded like he had only a small bit to do with it. more than likely he was briefed on it beforehand by the actual designer. this is ok though as it’s still got his brand and style. it raises the profile of the city to a regional capital. our homegrown talent hasn’t reached that sort of pinnacle yet but i feel it’s only a matter of time.
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Participanti don’t see any problem with that at all. quite nice to be honest. well done u. shame about an t being as*holes…
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Participantmaybe a gehry or a roche!!
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Participantso it was designed as one?????
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Participantto me it’s unfinished i have to be honest. although i don’t know about it being designed as 3 sides as the roof profile changes when u move from the orginal cusack to the canal end. maybe it was and that’s intentinal but i can’t see the reason for it. i was hoping that they would do the nally as an extension of the hogan but it all seems to be going into the hill from what i could see on tv and from greg’s pics.
u do have a good point on the grass as cardiff is having major problems along with a lot of premeirship clubs.FIN
Participantexactly. and i have no problem with the 3 sides either but just saying it would be nice if the finished it off
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Participantstranger things have happened. if it’s for the greater good then it will turn out to be worth it in the end.
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Participantthey should have built it though and either diverted the track or built around it..
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Participanti sense some resistance to the idea.
funny that.
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