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i agree bth. it doesn’t look particularily great at the moment but i am an optimist and hopefully it’ll turn out alright. but the disruption and time to do this job is what pains most people here. they have started doing the paving down beside the aib and for some reason have taken a big sweep out of the road. similiar to what they did or are doing outside the boi. it might look nice but pratical, i think not.
there is a lot thankfully in galway to talk about, and more than happy to derrick!
wellpark being the most high profile at the moment. however being a county boy there were plans for athenry for a massive ida estate.. or the by-pass…now, while in favour of it and i don’t want to upset the two an taisce boys, i won’t say much on the subject, and until the consultatioin is over there is no real point either. loughrea by-pass however has started and hopefully it’ll be really quick.
oranmore, is growing up very quickly and i think will join to doughuisce/ merlin park very soon. this is urban sprawl at it’s most ugliest. a damn shame but seeing as we aren’t allowed to build high then there is no other option. and ballinasloe has got a few nice buildings in the last few years and hopefully will contuinue to progress. and finally at last the car park in tuam by the cop station is being developed. i haven’t seen the scheme for it yet but hopefully it will start something in the town as it’s badly needed.now, i’m not going to say much as i am well loved by these ‘defenders of our quality of life’….ha,ha…
Originally posted by Devin
Nobody is saying commercial development is not legitimate, and that is the no. 1 myth about heritage organisations (that they are against development). On the contrary most want to see excellent development that benefits the environment & soceity. Sadly there’s only a tiny minority of that in Ireland – & most of it is featured in the pages of the yearly architectural awards journals.so anything not on the awards list is shit and therefore shouldn’t be allowed…. WHAT!!!!! jesus man, do u actually believe the bollox u are talking.
Originally posted by Devin
As far as I remember, the An Taisce spokesperson – quoted in the paper at the time your development was refused – acknowledged that you had done good work in Scotland and elsewhere, and made it clear that this was not about architecture or development per se, but that the proposal was out of scale for a historically sensitive area of Sligo Town.ha,ha…enough said…u crack me up devin..u truly do…
Originally posted by Devin
You are throwing up details here in support of your development such as: “we were depending on the adjoining development to make a connection through from one side of the town to the other and new wynd and pedestrian walkway ……….the link has been lost and now both projects have been scuppered”. What is anybody supposed to make of that who hasn’t analysed the relative planning applications, doesn’t know the site or doesn’t even know Sligo town?i think alan didn’t quite put it strong enough…read and understand before u comment….
Originally posted by Devin
I would love to see GM & AD do something in this town, and I hope something can be worked out for that site eventually.i must say, nicely sucked up there….u must want to become a politician…VOTE FOR DEVIN!!! ha,ha….
i agree. but if he called for more openess then he may be taken seriously. whereas now he is seen as a fruit
i’m sorry, we just accept shit cos it’s better than 5 years ago…. fair enough there should be praise as well if something is done well,
i can only presume but the n/m and the associated numbers i think mean which raod they are on…ie the n6..gal-dub road.
as regards the road width’s..i don’t rightly know. seems a bit strange to me. we have a roads engineer here so will ask 4 u. will get back to u after lunch on that.
it should be a dual to sligo from gal so i think downgrading it is a waste. but if only i made the desicions. things would be a lot better.
vote me for dictator….there was complaints about that at the time wasn’t there. about how we couldn’t afford to host it each time we won it. what a laugh…
check out the galway county council’s website. they have the proposed route for the two roads. the gal-dub will feed into the outer by-pass but goes in further to the existing one. it joins the existing one beside the new galway clinic that’s is just built. between that and the roundabout to the racecourse. so it doesn’t need the outer by pass but would be a help. they have started the cpo’s so it should only be a year or so before it starts.the loughrea one is supposed to be starting this september. this however i have come to the conclusion is a throwback from other days. it was first proposed more than 20 years ago and the town rejected it. since then of course traffic has gotten worse and those small minded gobshites have since changed their minds and have been shouting about one for ages. when a lot of people shout politicians tend to listen so action was started and they are now getting one which will completely crap on their town once the dual carrigeway is built. fate is cruel…ha,ha… i think the tuam one will be waiting until the outer by-pass is built. there is of course a lot of upset people regarding the proposed route of the o.bypass. as there will always be. i guess the road system is like cie…we are getting there.
i agree. we more than probably couldn’t hold anything even close to something like the olympics. and on a similiar point…we are crap as athlete’s really. i was wondering about a getting drinking contest into the games next time round. or maybe starting the galway female beech volleyball team.
oh and disapora, yea the rev. ian did protest to a sunday game but it’s not long ago that we were at the same thing down here. some people take their belief in an ghost-like thing a bit seriously.we as a country still let the catholic church dictate a lot. it’s a lot better than what it was but that’s thanks to time and sense.very contentious point sean. belfast, like it or not, is part of the uk for the time being but we all share this little island. if we ever want it back then why not share it with up there and as was pointed out the cost would be shared between us and the uk gov.
i want to see if anyone can explain to me the reasoning behind this.
in galway county, specifically the town of loughrea. they have proposed a by-pass which they cpo’d last year or so…it’s starting on site soon seemingly. now normally this would make perfect sense cos it is a bottleneck. but now(well last week really) the have cpo’d the national primary route from ballinasloe to galway with a nice shiny dual carriageway which completely misses out loughrea. i don’t see the sense in wasting the money on the by-pass as really only locals will be using the old route now anyway so it won’t be a bottleneck anymore.
how can we waste millions like this? do the decision makers not talk to each other? how can such governmental department make such a fuck up in the distribution of donations from our eu partners.welcome back alan. hope u enjoyed ue trip around my county.
and yea..there is always something…like in braveheart wasn’t there some of the extra’s with watches on…but both great films…they can’t think of everything
chancer i would suggest. A lot of properties are sold like that. subject to planning permission. don’t get stung by buying it first anyway.
to protect natural amenities generally means…not a hope of getting planning permission unless u have grown up in the place.
as disapora said find a nice little old farm house or similiar and renovate. possibly even knock and build again. for that u’ll have to ask the planners. i know for galway county council there is about a month to 6 weeks to meet a local planner. i presume it’s something similiar around the country.this is a national problem as well as a dublin one. i have seen for years on the way up to dublin, villages getting swamped by large housing estates. and now in galway. the whole place is gone daft.
This was the price of progress at the time i suppose but now that we are more confident in ourselves we should look at this problem exactly as is recommended. to say we don’t have a history of apartment living, while true, doesn’t mean that if it’s cheap enough a lot of us wouldn’t.
i have been listening to this argument for years though. everyone saying urban sprawl is terrible. it is but it’s not going to change by talk. developers need a reason to change from the status quo and move forward. otherwise we are still going to be having this discussion in 20 years time. meanwhile our cities become these monsters with, as we talked about before devin, the centres will have students and others in them and will eventually fall into some ruin.the businesses will move out of the centres and into these american style malls.while this is all very basic urban design and planning issues.
at least i must say that ye are trying to do something about that in the capital. (regeneration of the docks etc where at least there are apartments going into the centre of the city, even with all it’s various faults, it still is a step in the right direction) but large scale regeneration is needed or we will be forced into a situatioin where there just isn’t the reasons to but an old building and either flatten and start again .:Dor re-do and re-use as it’s easier to get planning for a few hundred houses out in the sticks.
