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“But it is not, it is just on a site that does not possess the special site attributes to justify it’s proposed height. “
WHAT?what? what on earth has this to do with the docklands and urban design. the docklands is as i’m sure u know better than me is quite a large area requiring a good urban map whereas this is one building. what happen’s after is pure speculation. where it fits in is that maybe that it’s the start of a urban map. everything has to have a start. do u want to keep dublin down so that it may spread furhter into kildare/meath/louth/wicklow and any other surronding counties?
oh! my god not again. please please go to any other city in the world and see new developments that are close to old buildings …and i mean that please go. how could it possibly destroy the heritage value and what exactly is the heritage value…. would u like to see no development around these things…
is it not also close to the roads out of dublin? and surely it’s not the developemnts or developers fault that irish rail is so shite. it’s had the facilities there for expansion.
and your third point…absolute nonsense. if we need more import them. lots of romanian and other such nations builders crying out for work just like we were when we had to go across the water and to america. and espically if they are cheaper than the cartel here.Originally posted by Diaspora
I believe our unique ability not to get anything involving airports right (other than cheap fags) would doom it to failure.
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yes i believe marion did. during her student days she chained herself to some georgian house to stop it being demolished… great panel member!!!!!!!!!
knock is a large waste. it was the us military that part funded it as well ithink i heard sometime. perhaps there maybe a starting point for a study.
gregf.. that looks just peachy!!! lol. it wouldn’t suprise me but i do think the gov is more vain than that so maybe a nice standoutish colour..deep red maybe.
you don’t know the name of the group do u?
and indeed the mistakes of the past are ensuring that it’s like running into a brick wall to try and convince them about the value of apartments but it may be worth it in the long run. and unfortunately the devoloper was a major contributor to that as the architect was sindlined and just got paid to sign off..if he didn’t someone else would!!! dog eat dog world. but i agree it could have been designed better so not all blame can be deflected but there wasn’t as many restrictions so crap design was easier to get passed. that aside just a trip to other countries would help any of the doubters. i suggest holland… they might also try the local herbs and come back with totally different views. 🙂
oh! this city wasn’t the city planned for mayo..the one with the religious name?i must say there are some good examples of apartments going up around the place due to the influx of new blood to architecture and the revialtisation of the older stock.
are there “boundaries” to this linear city. i mean to say ..take a line about a mile from the main highway and define that as a boundary. and would there be a case for it to be the length of say dub to gal. if so there would need to be more than 1 airport and would u suggest having an airport for cargo and another for people. in ur disseration did u comment on any of the above and did u make any decisiion as to what format u favoured?
to be honest it’s the theory i’m interested in because it’ll never happen in ireland. it would be nice to even set up a study on the feasability.
and u r still an architect. i don’t share my bosses view on architecture but best to leave that to the other thread. of course opunions differ but thats good for debate and i never insulted personally but i did the organisation. it was getting quite hot yesterday so i thought i would leave it til today but i think alan has a point to a certain degree but i think the whole insults have a negative impact on everyone. any way back to architecture/urban design.sea is being outdated now anyway. it is being marginilised to be a secondry form of transport so wouldn’t worry about that too much. yea. of course broadband(mind u i have it and to be honest it’s not that hot) but the infrastructure would have to be top notch. not only the initial main highway but secondry highways as it would encourage other cities of similiar form and there for links by road would be necessary.
it would be a new city but i don’t beieve it would irradicate the edge city as there would always be creeping on to the countryside surronding unless strict laws were made but also the advent of apartment living and the abolishing of this crazy 5 storey rule that for some reason seems to apply to most towns and cities around the country. mind you for a new city a whole new set of rules would have to be arranged so that would bypass that. it’s a form that would need serious consideration for modern ireland to service these gateway hubs the gov devised. and would allow for development of nearly every area of country…very interesting indeed. and by the way cheers for the website link..lots of interesting articles to get throughthat is good alright. the linear city effect really. i can’t remember the name of the guy who first proposed it…long time ago that i saw that.the effects and consequences of such urban planning. nice theory. i wouldn’t mind reading it if u don’t mind as a lot more can be commented on. of course does it work and would it work in ireland. are we developed enough to either take advantage of it or are our planning laws too outdated to permit even thinking of such new and radical ideas( not the fact it was thought of decades ago). hmmmm! urban design lectures beginning to return! 🙂
an taisce in force…good to see that we are monitored anyway…and who is this healy rae???? and it’s nice of you to have an interest in country people having their own houses from ur desk in dublin and ur semi d in some estate.
why was it switched from donnybrook?
with stadiums like donnybrook/thomond and all those there would be no reason to have it in the 80,000 seater stadium. i would suggest that even games against the weaker teams like italy would be able to get 60,000 or so. as land as it was easy to get in and out of environs of the stadiumtrue enough. but i would say equal to it. while i agree with the policy of de-centralisiation i have to question the validity of where they were put. enviornment in wexford/waterford…etc,etc… it smacks of jobs for the boys..
i read an article in one of the papers over the weekend that there are thousands more wanting to move out of dublin than the gov announced. the problem however is where they are going. i am not about to give out about the gov again but dept of the marine in one of the few landlocked counties… i don’t see the sense in that one unless they are taking the piss out of us! but anyhow… i don’t see the problem and r0_g good point however somtimes not that easy
