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Participantsorry alan.
no objections…cool!
and yea…i would say party politics had a lot to do with it….what’s your next step? can they be lobbied to change their mind?FIN
Participantand they are all irish.
some were lucky to get out some were lucky to stay what ever way u want to look at it.
but point taken on tubercurry!!!! 🙂
it was too concidental that they happen to list this building when there was an application on it!!!!alan, were there any objections to it because more than likely they went this way to stop the development.
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ParticipantOriginally posted by Devin
The public want plastic georgian windows and flower baskets.what are you talking about?
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Participantgenerally it is. as it should be.
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Participantunfortunately all the hope in the world doesn’t stop these things happening.
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Participantit depends on who u have judging. some side with a.t. no matter what.
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Participanti was asking u personally.
yes but all baulk at the sight on a submission by an taisce. and even if it is discointed it will almost invariably go to an bord.FIN
ParticipantOriginally posted by Diaspora
AnTaisce have two Members of the Royal Town Planning Institute who handle their largest planning submissions. They are eminently qualified to express opinions.ok now i’ll say it. u are like the brits….
Originally posted by Diaspora
Everything concerning architecture is open to personnal interpretation, particularly the principal architects vision. It is when that personnal interpretation goes that one ends up with 1950’s East German architecture.so are all ur members qualified to have such personal interpretations as to be able to distuinguish between good and bad architecture? how do u define good and bad architecture?
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ParticipantOriginally posted by Devin
Every one of your posts contains sarcasmthat ok for u?
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Participantas i said if was restricted to environmental issues then there would be no problem however it’s not. it gets involved with planning issues and all sorts of design where it’s not specifically experienced in and therefore make up reasons that can only be described as unbelieveable to object to anything they don’t like. it is open to personal interpretation and that’s not good enough for an supposedly unbiased government organisation. and before u say ur not.. u got grants from the gov so u were. not now though!!!
and devin…. poor devin. i thought i lost you with the use of all those big words. if you want us to use less demanding words please tell us.
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Participantwhat?
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Participanti know…stupidity runs very deep in our public organisations.
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Participantwell this new tax on houses may have been the nail in ur coffin in a way as it gives lacol authorities a lot more money…
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Participantlets sing karoke!!!!!!
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Participanti don’t agree with that. some are fairly reasonable seemingly..and the gaa aren’t….
and yes ribbon development is not desirable but that comes about from people buying sites from the farmers for holiday homes. this is what the guidlines are intended to stop and not people building on their own land. there will always be some ribbon development as by it’s nature farms are outside towns and the farmer finds it not only necessary to build by the road but it’s another guideline!!!!
ahhhh! easily done.aran islands/aran island….! as far as the islands are concerned i think thatti should be encouraged for people to build as to bring the population up.(within reason… despite what a.t. in general thinks we as architect’s don’t want to ruin special areas like that)
these areas should be monitored by the co.co. and shouldn’t need outside help but if that is all a.t. did then there would be no problem.
“The point re the water quality of Lough Corrib you raised yesterday is of concern to everyone” i was fishing there recently enough and i only caught 1 trout. didn’t really mind cos it was a drinking session rather than serious fishing but i take that point.FIN
ParticipantOriginally posted by Diaspora
Fin raised the point that An Taisce are hated in particular areas of rural Ireland.nope… everywhere
Originally posted by Diaspora
The organisation was accused by Johny Bradey TD from Meath of being an extension of the British establishment, ‘getting at the Irish State’interesting!!!! see devin..i’m really not that bad… i never even mentioned that.
Originally posted by Diaspora
I took particular pleasure in sending a year book to a relative who has lived on Aran Mor for many years. Much of my family comes from Galway, we can trace our family there back to the 1580’s. And no there is no grand house there never was, but I am very proud of my heritage.fair play. however aran is in donegal so i presume u mean inis mor. and why did u take pleasure? what part of galway?
Originally posted by Diaspora
Regarding one off development which is the issue that has damaged the organisation more than any other. I personally would like to see a scheme in place that would allow for those active in rural communities build upon their own land. What is required is a measure to prevent the farming off of sites in inappropriate areas. Some claw back scheme that would tie a development to specific occupation by a named developer over a timeframe of say ten years.there is. it was indefinately in the gealtacht
in connemara. these areas if granted should be for the good of the community. elsewhere however, like roscommon, where in fairness to the rossies there is nothing why not allow houses on farmland.Originally posted by Diaspora
What An Taisce needs are more members from rural areas. The organisation has county associations in most counties. But a higher membership would be welcome particularly in the Westbest of luck on this one.
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Participantthat seems a bit daft… they should have no opotion but to accept market value. greedy bastards.
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Participantpeople making rash assumptions again..how does he know? did he try it? 🙂 what was that in relation to?
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Participantwell first as far as i’m concerned but then again i’m biased in this regard.
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ParticipantOriginally posted by Diaspora
The reason the IFA are to blame is that they instructed all their members not to deal with the compulsory purchase agents.sorry i knows a bit back but i thought that cpo are exactly that…there is no option ????
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