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Participantyea the urban planning took that idea into even now with out “landmark” buildings. not quite the same cos the idea just got a bit mangled but u can see it’s ancestory.
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Participantstuck in traffic!!! 🙂
i think that medieval planning they used the landmark as a navigation and street evolved in such a way as to be able to see it from anywhere. this gives the whole street/city a human feel and people could travel through the spaces easier with a knowledge of where they were.
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Participantyeah..like that..with hopefully ability for expansion over ends….when the need arises…
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Participantdisaster… how come small? isn’t promoting art? possibly not in the traditional sense i suppose…still some exposure from about the house wouldn’t go astray and might nudge them towards giving more generously next year! there could be scope of providing a service in both directions. u show off there projects and provide link for them and they plug u in show!!! even might get sponership from programmes sponsers…just a thought but it may help..
oh! and while i’m here, ammm.. good show and all but when duncan told a qualified roofer why and how to put felt onto a roof it didn’t inspire confidence in that particular roofer…i know it’s for the lay people but the poor guy must have felt like a complete idiot! liked your idea of doing a few minutes on the apprenticeships…:-)
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Participantnewcastle and the thing they are building at the moment is cute. also in ur home town the armadillo looking building. those two are quite good.
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Participantha,ha…shiver with the thought. i know a lot of architects who watch it too however and might get some more people getting involved in the discussions. there is a group of western architects that i shall have to tell to start posting. they may be able to show some pictures of designs i wouldn’t be able to get my hands on and other such things. by the by…did u get a grant for the web-site paul?
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Participanttrue..there should be a plug on the show or in the credits at least…
January 21, 2004 at 3:52 pm in reply to: Need to Compile List of Irish Architects for Magazine Article ASAP. Please Help! #739579FIN
Participantthat’s them..thanks sw101.
January 21, 2004 at 3:17 pm in reply to: Need to Compile List of Irish Architects for Magazine Article ASAP. Please Help! #739577FIN
Participantdouglas wallace will have to feature i suppose as well as murray o’ laoire. and what about the designers of that gallery in egypt…sorry i can’t remember their names so apoligies to them for that.
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Participantyeah it was italy. i was there last year for a medieval festival. it was in some small town about an hour outside rome. like paddy’s day but much more interesting. had a play basically played on the street. horses carring knights etc. it was class and to see the interaction between the users and the streets was facinating. i will try and find the name of it for u. the little town came alive. we got to see most of the architecture of it because as i said it was a kinda play that brought u around different churches culminating in a finish in the main square. how even ther large churches interacted with the people and the smaller houses.
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Participantpink! what a ammm interesting colour choice. it would certainly brighten up the street and is it a house?? any pics so i can view this wonder of irish architecture?
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Participanti find sociology, in the way different communities/ethnic groups/classes are in tune with their world, in which architecture forms a large part, helps my thinking in regards to design.
this can range from a small building to city design. this is very much to the fore nowadays because of the social housing debacle that the government introduced. creating slums. what may have seemed a good idea and a vote getter is turning out to be something that could bite all our asses in the future.
but back to the point. the interaction of the user and the building is as u say like clothing. the user has to be comfortable in the environment to be able to perform to their designated tasks.
i would however suggest the a building be thought of as a item of clothing rather than the clothes. it has to match with the rest of the fabric. to interact with the roads, light rail system, pedestrian movement even metro system. there may to be a uniformity of experience of a building from first contact or it may have distinct experiences but all these must tie in with the what the average user experiences as an overload may lead to loss of familiarity. In this I mean the user won’t get emotionally attached to it. When the user gets emotionally attached to the building is when u know u have created a building that works.
I think the fact you are beginning to experience your city as a whole and not as individual buildings is great. I have to look at Rome for this. It is an amazing city. One where you could never get tired of walking around because even though some of the buildings are of a large scale they somehow feel close to the average punter. The point about the weather is a good one and the fact that one has to experience it in the rain. Then it maybe the case that the model of Rome wouldn’t work here.
I think the idea in Edinburgh of creating a sub-terrain shopping complex underneath princes street maybe deserves merit due to the fact that it is understanding and taking into consideration the weather and the user. Would it work in Dublin? There is also and forgive me cos I can’t remember the city but in Canada something similar where a large swathe of the city is beginning to go underground. I am crap with names but I think it’s Montreal!!! They are taking into account of the weather also. Would this work in Dublin? Would we be able to create a city underground. Or would it become a haven for criminal’s and graffiti artists. This is where sociology comes into play again. Would we be able to create a place where everyone becomes emotionally attached to so as to dissuade them from soiling it?Again I digress, and I offer my apologies, architecture is a complex subject as we are expected to know a little about a lot of things. There is often a weight of information heaped on students without any form of coherent evaluation. This may hinder the development of some or most. Speaking from personal experience and I have to go back and finish off yet. They are then reduced to thinking of a building in isolation or near isolation, with only the surrounding buildings as a guide instead of taking the whole area/city into context as well. This may seem to involve too much thought but I think it helps to at least consider it when designing. The language of the whole city then comes into play. This is where the item of clothing fits into the suit perfectly and one becomes trendy.
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Participantfair point. kinda no win situation there. do we let in a bad egg and spoil the whole tea party or get bad publicity for not letting in someone. as a whole i suppose it was the right decision.
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Participanti have no doubt it was for his own pocket that he tried to join. and true it would make some of the views expressed here seem timid in the extreme. however, and there always has to be a however, it does seem a bit shocking that a member of the public isn’t allowed join. now before i make u go off in a rant i better explain. he may have had a perfectly sound reason for joining and his business stopped him and therefore he was just joe public. would it stop an architect? someone who has to gain aswell. or a property developer?
now, i’m not trying to justify his case as i don’t really care but suffice to say he tried his hand and failed but the precedent that it set is worrying.
and ha,ha…thanks for the kind offer but i don’t think i would fit in not when there are people that refuse to look at both sides.FIN
Participantit sounds like they don’t want to get rid of their elitist tag at all. it may be the case that mr. conroy had alternative reasons for joining because he is more than likely sick of an taisce objecting to everything everybody tries to do out his side of the country. if he has reasonable arguments surely he is worth listening to. i’m not sure what he hoped to change but possibly to start the debate and have someone from the locality there to argue the case. i wonder does he have any political aspirations.
as far as government money. i feel paul is absolutely right here. they shouldn’t recieve tax-payers money for a seemingly private boys club, that doesn’t let people with different views in. it has to be democratic and open and accountable. the price of living in a democracy i’m afraid.FIN
Participantdiaspora,
my advice is to get out of an taisce as quick as u can before it collapses. you attempts to affect change or at least support change seem to be in vain in an organisation that seems hell bent on ignoring it’s past foolishness and ignorance in the face of reason.
devin,
time to grow up and smell the roses. i suggest some time off to think of what actually you want in regards to an taisce and see if your small minded thinking is what the organisation, that could be good, needs.FIN
Participantthat’s what i thought.
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Participantwhat wounds devin? and i hope so. i would be the first to say an taisce should be abolished if the organisation is full of idiots that say no to anything. however diaspora has managed to convince me that you all aren’t stupid morons.
i can only say that when you piss off a lot of people, politicians get worried, espically environment ministers because these are the people who put them there and can take it back off them just as easily.
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Participantoh! sorry didn’t see that thread…so there is no viking settlements or anything like that? that makes it an awful lot easier…
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Participanti still read it because for once there is actually sense coming from someone with an taisce unlike urself devin. when you don’t know what you are talking about please learn instead of shooting your mouth off!
just a suggestion for your own sake! 🙂
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