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it certainly looks that way alright. it has improved greatly and credit to all there if that is what dissolving the city architect does. suppose it’s the fact that they get rid of the old timers( by this i mean what i described in previous reply) who have just one vision in regards to the style they like and find holes in everything else. it lets the architect sit down with the planner and talk through the design and convince them it’s good.! the choice of planners then is important but they tend to renew themselves after a few years ( going out and starting a consultants) .
gareth i think that the lure of private business and designing the “landmarks” is too strong to take rather than the endless paper shuffling of a civil servant job
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it’s not too hard to remember where places are on the atlas!!!!
i know very simplified but yeah! i wonder how many. not as much points needed and definetly not the same amount of years. although i know some of the better ones did do a course in town planning.
the question is of course… would you be happy!!!! 😀i don’t think they need to, that’s their major worry that if they let the infidels into croker then all the grounds will be over run.
there is a city architect for galway. her name is rosie webb. there is also a county architect or several of them i think. now wether there is a need for them or not… i am not going to say on the forum but as far as i can see they just judge the bigger scheme’s and that’s it. we are doing a large project for the council and she thinks she is basically the client and project manager, but as they sold it to a private developer they are relegated to consultants no matter what she thinks.
that’s beside the point.
“……..what is a city architect then, other than an administrator……… anyone with talent should be building?”
they may have talent but there is a thinking in general here that government jobs are cushy and have gauranteed pension after you rot in the job doing bugger all for 40 years. kinda morbid but hey!more red tape………….. maybe?”
exactly. that’s all it is. someone else who offers there opinions on a design.
i wonder are the planners in other countries obligated to undergo a few years of actual architectural training or are they geography grads like here?the hand drawings make it look a bit better but those computer images are shit.
they are big enough now to try some radical design and would probably get away with some…. i know they have built their company on such a style but jeez… time to branch out.it looks like a greenhouse from one of those garden centres. well pics 1/2/3. pic 5 is kinda confusing but i like the way the old stone(i presume) mixes well with the glazing. always knew they went well together. they seem to bring something out in each other.and that looks out to the river.
Originally posted by Diaspora
‘Fixed price contracts’ How did they ever negotiate anything else? (excluding the regular 5%-10% contingency)
yea, i never got that…if you give people the scope t rip u off then they will. no bloody wonder everything is over budget and over due if there was no fixed price! :confused:
when’s the next election? apart from l.a. election this year. can he be held to this promise???? ha,ha.
i don’t think they have even started yet! some public meeting regarding c.p.o.’s… that’s the last i heard about it and that was last week/the week before.
but finished 2007!! he is having a laugh?
while quite nice in a backward kindq way it is very hard to get anything in the city…hence stagnate. it’s a bit late now to be saying this about dublin. it’s on the path to becoming a vibrant modern city so i still believe this and other thinkings along the same line will only have a detrimental effect on the city.
cavalier but not ignorant greg. my point although lost(by me mostly) was not to put up some mock georgian rubbish to hide the fact that someone built something other than houses there. urban design is also about marking “landmarks” for orientation( term being used a lot recently to it’s demise as a significant marker of urban spaces) the uniformity of an entire street needs something to standout. while the esb pays respect to the street it is something completely different and i think completely suitable. the proportions are important but a new design can give proportions as well. and glitzy maybe but it doesn’t have to be. and a spar is more practical but i don’t think the green sign and red christmas tree would do anything of note to the streetscape.
alan is right there is a lot of good architecture going up and gone up recently and to now while we are moving forward take this approach ( which may be used as a dangerous precedent) is crazy.it’s not our architectural heritage though and even though it was built by irish slave labour it still isn’t ours. so why not build something of interest that is ours and not try to recreate this rubbish.
you are beginning to think about what your saying now greg which is good. i am not trying to piss you off saying that but your previous rambling wasn’t convincing. you make some good points but i still think that it’s a mistake to put up replica’s of what is sadly inefficient design for today.
