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ah! sure they’ll think of us eventually! 🙂 it’s absolutely stupid and this gateway hub was the greatest waste of time and money. it seems to be just a publicity ploy to say to the masses ” look we haven’t forgotten you”
oh! absolutely. i’m not saying don’t have the metro cos it is well needed but am saying do this as well. the tuam/sligo one doesn’t have to be passenger. freight would work as well.
is the ennis bypass the start of such a horse trail? i think that getting a full motorway between here and there is going to take at least until 2035 as u said as there is just too much hassle to stand it it’s way. probably some rare plant or other nationally important considerations. and definately if it’s not linking dublin then what’s the point???? i know it may sound like a culchie bitching about how we never get anything down here but while i don’t generally air such views it is unbelievably true. the only reason we are getting a motorway from dublin to galway is so it’ll be easier for dubliners to come down here on bank holidays when there is a massive influx. there is a complete railway from sligo to limerick and from there i presume to cork. this would serve as major infrastructural line however it remains closed while not only a luas but now a metro for the greater dublin area. and that is besides the dart. now if anyone can see sense in that then please feel free to enlighten me.
‘fraid so. the upturned heinz beens tin is a no go area however we are in need of some “skyscrapers”. that website is a funny little one isn’t it! pipe dreams.
lots of tv’s would probably be shot…. jeez she was bad and as i said earlier she said one interesting point and that was to rebuke o’ cuiv…
yeah! she was away with the fairies..the girl form sustainability something… probably lives in leitrim and dreams of catching clouds!!!!! the guy didn’t have much to say other than the web-site in fairness…. kinda of a no brainer..and an archeologist…it didn’t say i think… i wonder how frank corcoran would do if there were actual architect’s etc people there and not for the most part dimwits…
on prime time last night a big discussio on an taisce. but i fear the picked the wrong people to argue the president of an taisce..can’t remember his name… they some hippy who only said 1 intelligent thing all night and some people who really hadn’t a clue. a planner who didn’t say much and o’cuiv..absolute muppet who talked around every subject. i suppose he tried his best to sound intelligent but came off sonding like a moron who is only there because of his questionable lineage. there was a guy there which they didn’t tell u what he did.. but he was trying to comment on inaccuricies with an taisce’s policies(regarding planning cos i know disapora that ye do more stuff) and was quite rudely shouted down several times. seems like the president didn’t want that aired that they seem to have no cohesive stragety towards this subject and can’t handle the justified critism and questions involved in making this public.
hmm planning 1500 for 2 storey. 1200 for single. and unless u have insurance don’t produce working drawings. the builder will more than likely build off the planning drawings anyway. the mortgage provider may require an architect’s opunion of compliance for each payment but if it’s not ur house then not ur problem. that will cost them cos they have to go to an office and get someone to go out and check every few months.
true but the ability to explain within the context of the real world instead of what u read is another great benefit
lol. absolutely and a greater understanding of the working of the business that i wouldn’t have got from 20 years in college
Originally posted by Diaspora
“I think it is that technicians are regarded as having a focused knowledge that is easy to utilise.
Architecture students may be regarded as less focused in a narrow sense and there is the danger that they might expect training in more complicated areas of professional practice.very true.
Originally posted by Diaspora
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The year I graduated the external examiner who met with us was shocked that none of us had done a six month placement.six months!! i would have thought it was compulsory to do a year out!
that’s ok. quite understandable. my sister also studied geography. she works for the dept. of env.
sorry i replied to that before i read the rest. u asked about a city geographyer or however it’s spelt. again as i said in the other thread i would consider a consultant but a decision maker. it is just more red tape unfortunately.
i agree with alan. in general ( cos he mentioned 1 example against this) a lecturer/tutor/whatever has to have practical experience in the field. disapora. if he had even a few years in the field u would hope that he did build something as otherwise i would presume him/her to be conceptual or just plain crap. hard view i know but hey!
on the other points lads, i think that architectural students are regarded as not having the knowledge that a technician course gives someone. ie workability etc… i don’t subscribe to this view but it seems to be part of the profession. employers seem to think that they will have to train from the start the unfortunate arch student while techies will know a lot more. it’s true to a certain degree.
the drop out rate may be that the course is too long for some people. 5 years without earning is a lot. pressure is large to get a worthwhile job. etc…Originally posted by phil
Fin, I really hope you are joking!? As a geography student I feel I must defend my discipline. Firstly to presume that most planners are geographers is to genaralise. Secondly to criticise planners because you think they are from a geography background is insulting. I find it particularly suprising as in another thread you were discussing how you would advocate the use of social scientists in designing buildings. I personally think that engagement of architects with the likes of geographers would more than likely be a positive. I think the study of geography gives a good understanding of the use and interpretation of space. It is also helpful in understanding peoples attachment to place.
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i was phil…
good point. i know the guy who went into the galway county architects job. and he was saying that he was there for a few years to stay quiet and then after they get to know u then u may be able to start pushing better design i regards to the planning submissions. i told him that they only way to see it quicker is to start seminars ( i was thinking small ones) where he introduces himself to different architects and underlines what his intentions are. this will increase the trust factor and then the expressions will come to the front. my good advice i fear fell on deaf ears. he wanted to fit in rather than ruffle feathers.
Originally posted by alan d
FIN, The City Architect department in Glasgow was just another level of administration to get beyond and encouraged a job for life mentality.
absolutely. just what i was trying to say. with a nice pension afterwards as well. 😉
Originally posted by garethace
I have to disagree completely, since there are people out there, who have both the skills to shuffle papers with the best of them, while also seeing where the architect, might be coming from – to a much larger degree than some economics arts graduate from UCD. 🙂
not what i meant. i mean that the lure of private practice and designing these instead of watching them come across ur desk. i agree with u there. there are some people that can visualize what the architect is trying to do and the more the merrier i believe, besides these number crunchers. there is also some stigma attaced to civil jobs where they are kinda seen as the low of the low on the architectural food chain.
