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i don’t think we should knock it. gimmicky it may be but a work of art nonetheless. if you get funding for it Paul then go for it. Arts council might be interested. oh! and i would probably site it closer to the docks rather than mutton island… it just means that when your on the spanish arch on a lovely summer day you will be abler to get a good view. i think mutton island would be too far away.

on other matters.. then big develpment on the tuam road built by Glenman… i was excited when it first started to go up but the finished ( or close to finised_ saw it about a month ago ) article is really disappointing.
the dunnes in ballybrit looks (ahem) interesting. i reserve judgement on it until it’s finished.

i don’t know if the road is needed, i don’t care if the road is needed.
The fact of the matter is that the hill is beyond doubt the most important site in ireland. the hill was the seat of the high kings of ireland. now that may not mean anything to you ‘planters’ but it means a hell of a lot to some of us.
the hill was the palace and surronding all capitals is the infrastructure of it. this incluses religious and ceremonial spaces. what they found is obviously one of them. to even consider a road 1200mm away is contemptious of our culture, our identity and our history. but fair enough due process was observed or so we were led to believe.
the fact that this is some pompous minister’s wet dream for his constituients is beyond reproach. there was mention of vive le revolotion by ‘sue’. i agree. let’s cut this persons balls off and hang him and his cronies from the nearest trees. there are some things that cannot be touched for personal gain.

well said graham and others.
it looks like every village, town and city in ireland. this does really have to stop.

i thought that was quite good. recently i did a house for my sister and her husband. and no it wasn’t in the countryside. in a town, behind his mothers house. i got an F.I. and responded to it. they turned it down on 3 completely different reasons. one being that no development in backlands of existing streetscapes. now, they won’t let you build ina town or in the countryside. they are trying to force everyone to live in estates. this needs to change and i agree ( i will brit bash) that needs to be stopped. ” we don’t consider ireland to be abroad” … does this not boil your blood.. who am i talking to…sure most of you would love that…and for that matter why is it still the royal institute of architects and while i’m here the royal national lifeboat association or any other royal institute…either we are a seperate country or not. my mother used to say ” that the country is in such a ruin that we should hand it back to the queen and apologies for the state we left it in ” … now obviously i was agast but it seems we never really got away from the queen in certain respects and with the way our main streets ( high streets is such a jaffa term ) are going we are handing it back inch by inch.if we are not careful they will start claiming it back

rant over – phew… jaysus i’m tired…

back to sense… while it is curropt, and it is very curropt ( i can never remember how to spell that but i don’t care ) we are never going to progress unless we stand on our own two feet and not try to copy everything they do.
someone said that there is a “not in my back yard” attitude. and yes there is for major infrastructure planning. i welcomed the governments fast track system for these jobs but it still can be held up by one objector costing us all a lot of money.
while i am in favour of one off housing i am not in favour of these shite that are blighting the countryside. in my perfect world they would all be architect’s designed and fit in perfectly with the landscape adding to the viewing pleasure of our visitors from the east down to our quaint part of the country spending their pounds ( oops sorry euros ) and of course designed by me 🙂 sorry couldn’t help that one. if there weren’t the box houses ( ikea probably are developing a kit house there are so many alike ) then it wouldn’t be half the battle to get one. the economic arguments are nonsense. you don’t pay for the one – off’s but you will never change your minds so i won’t even bother trying to again. the irda as an institutation is probably a good idea but it would have to have architectural and planners representation and dare i say it an taisce as well. then we would all be able to work together which would be nice for a change. we would have to leave the politicians out of it as they are just bull-shitters and would waste precious time.

that’s a nice stat. we go to college more. what is your point there? i can only assume that you are saying that we are more intelligent. lower class sizes…it may be very true because there isn’t that big a population here. during the dark years they emigrated or moved to dublin.you have probably parents who are from the country.you should see the schools though. i do. i work here and do a lot of work trying to fix them up and make them at least bearable. most places are falling down around the kids because there isn’t the population to make it viable to either improve the existing to a good level or replace them.
there is nothing here. our children have to get educated and go to college to get anywhere in life. and basically leave the region. the reason we pay less is because there is less people here. we have less services so we pay less services charges. there are less jobs so we pay less tax. this is nothing about having cork people pay for eyre square. it is the sheer arogance to think that jackeens pay for the lifestyle we have outside the pale.
our sities (and i speak for every city outside the pale ) has no public train system and dublin has two. there is a motorway between cork and dublin. and why shouldn’t there be. cork is the second largest city we have. there is not motorway between galway and dublin and when they will finally have one we will have to pay tolls. why is this? because throughout the years all the european money has gone to improving the road network around the pale. i am not saying this is a bad thing as it is the capital and has the biggest population but don’t tell me we are better off.
you arguments are based on that you think that we are all sponging off the tax payer. i am not a farmer, my family don’t have land. it is true that farmers are getting paid to do nothing with their lands and can then sell sites off but why not. farming in ireland is dying. it used to be our chief occupation but it is now not viable for ordinary farmers to make a living. their family’s spend generations since the land grap of ’22 working the land so why not in the times of pleanty make money on it. this is the thing. IT’S THEIR LAND. they can do with it what they want. if they want to put up houses for their children on it then so be it. ( i have heard twice last week farmers getting permission for their 3/4 year old children ) they pay service charges for it. they pay their way. not as much as others i admit but they don’t get the same service.

( thomond park : i don’t use patrick street in cork. that argument is utter nonsense just like your arguments in a previous thread )

trying to rebuild the wall around the pale i hope.
ar maybe trying to dig the rest of the tunnel around it so it can be floated back to britain

cruel comments… u cannot be too cruel. this person was a dishonest, corrupt gun runner. he stole money from the country when most paye people were paying 60% tax. he did up his own office with 17 mil when the country was on it’s knees… he should have been locked away on spike island years ago ( and yes i do know they closed down that prison ) and now his party are giving him a state funeral…this is a disgrace…

i did a convent/nursing unit for the sisters of mercy… we are just finishing up. our practice did a few convents over the past number of years too. because all the orders are getting old with very few new recruits the need for assisted living homes instead of the old traditional convents are required.

i agree there.
and may i say that it was the developers choice in oranmore for the copper. ( i forgot about that one ) it was not in the design.i like timber i must say..there is one in loughrea at the mement that looks quite interesting. and the 3d went back up in craughwell last week and it doesn’t look too bad.
i haen’t seen the new train station yet…any links?
that thing down on the claddagh is not very nice alright. i think it’s the windows that make it completely shite though…plus there is way too much copper

that is normal enough alan although as was said it shouldn’t have come out in the clarification of fi… but any engineer will have most of those as standard details and the sections are easy enough…as thomond said…cross the t’s….it is a good sign though cos they have nothing else to ask.