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Interesting article on the BBC
Did anyone else see the RTE broadcast of Mass from Mullingar Cathedral yesterday? It looks to be in a fairly good state of repair. However, the sanctuary appears to have been reordered by moving the altar about 6 feet forward of the tabernacle and a small brass lectern installed. The pulpit is still in place, but was being used as a handy platform for a TV Camera yesterday!
Some good shots of the mosaics in the side chapels, I don’t think I’ve seen any pics of those on any other medium..
@Praxiteles wrote:
Monaghan Cathedral
After nearly two years of searcing this is about as much as Praxiteles has been able (so far) to unearth of the original sanctuary. It does however give a good idea of what it was like. Note the floor of the sanctuary – is is quite similar to that in Cobh Cathedral (the one they wanted to hack out).
At last!! When compared to the sketch I posted back in April, the pieces are much smaller than I expected they would be (In fact, I wonder if they were intended for this location?). I think Monaghan would be a superb blank canvas to reinstate something more along the lines of what McCarthy intended!
@ake wrote:
St.Peter’s church, Phibsborough.
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The present condition of this church is a terrible pity, as it is probably the catholic church in Dublin that comes closest to rivalling St.Colman’s, just ahead of SS Augustine and John. The scale of it is the same as Cobh and sculptural furnishings are equal in quality and amount. Unfortunately, it has been significantly re-ordered, the altar now being in the crossing. That’s not a serious problem, it’s quite reversible and the original high altar was not hacked into pieces. It’s still there, intact. One of the transept chapels however is totally destroyed, housing a monstrous modern Mary. The other transept has an adjacent adoration chapel which is modern and open to the church but not too bad. The ceiling is in dire need of (high quality) stenciling. Right now it’s poster painted red and looks truely awful. The wall surfaces are also very bare, and need to be decorated one way or another.
One thing it has which Cobh does not is an ambulatory with many altars off it, all with very good, stone scultped. More shots here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/sets/72157600701940560/Superb photos as always Ake!
I believe the spire here is a smaller twin of that at Derry Cathedral, completed by Ashlin in the early 1900s.. they are both slightly more elaborate siblings of the spire at Killarney, which I belive was completed at the same time.
Derry now has a website, some good photos, but some rather glaring inaccuricies in the text!
@ake wrote:
Was a before picture of St.Macartan’s ever posted on the forum?
Closest I’ve come to seeing one is the print I posted a few months back:
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=4691&page=110 post 2773 I think..
I don’t know if its been mentioned on this thread, but Pete McCarthy’s book “The road to McCarthy” has a rather amusing chapter about Cobh, including the proposed changes to the Cathedral..
Notre-Dame-de-Croas-Batz in Roscoff, Brittany:
In super condition, fabric has recently been restored, but all the original fittings retained. Unfortunately, this is spoilt slightly by some of the usual clutter..
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@THE_Chris wrote:
Sad really, compare this ->
https://archiseek.com/content/attachment.php?attachmentid=4701&stc=1&d=1177522834
to this.
https://archiseek.com/content/attachment.php?attachmentid=4655&d=1176834980
🙁
Considering that the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour was savagely destroyed by the communist state in 1931 and wonderfully recreated in the 90s. Will we see a parallel here, in 50 years or so, see our churches being restored to their former glory..?
They have a good website: http://www.xxc.ru/english/index.htm
Monaghan Cathedral
This is the nearest I’ve come to seeing what the interior was like before it was wrecked. How close is it to what it was like until 1982?
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@Praxiteles wrote:
I love the sheen on the floor – just what you would expect in a shopping mall!
Full details on Armatile’s website:
http://www.armatile.com/project_gallery.php?sec=5&cat=22
I particularly like the floor in the washrooms 😉
@THE_Chris wrote:
Nice one 😀
But doesnt the small pedastal on the right of the image REALLY REALLY FIT IN WELL WITH THE DESIGN OF THE REST OF THE PLACE…… gah
Indeed, that was the contrast I was hoping to achieve in the photo! Apparently the architect wanted to avoid “sham gothic”. At least its not quite as vulgar as the previous McCormack ambo. Its just a pity the opportunity (in 2003), to put some good period pieces back into use was not taken (that would also have avoided “sham gothic”).
@Rhabanus wrote:
Is that a pair of overalls suspended from within the tester? The once-beautiful marble appears to have been scorched. Had a fire occurred in Armagh Cathedral? Or might the canopy have provided a sheltering lea for some vagrant’s bonfire.
This is an utterly damning photograph.
On a more positive note, the cathedral has aquired a lectern (dated 1873, year cathedral itself was dedicated).
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Former Pulpit from Armagh Cathedral:
In Situ:
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and this is what became of it (think its part of the canopy):
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Interesting shot of Cobh I found – looks like a little early 20th Cent Photoshopping!
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@samuel j wrote:
A crying shame……:eek:
Its also an example of a window which was formerly paritially obstructed by the reredos.. I’m sure everyone agrees, that it looked far better that way!
Yet more clutter… this time its a legal requirement.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6560899.stm
@THE_Chris wrote:
Why do they often put structures in front of stained glass windows? Seems the height of daft to me.
Quite often we see the pinacle of an original reredos obscure a small section of stained glass.. of course this is often an excuse for the destruction or truncation of the former.
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
The view from the loft is fabulous, you feel much further down the nave than you are – the turret staircase is a little tight though. Unfortunately I never got to go any higher up them.
No chance of a recital by Carlo Curley anytime soon then 😉
