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ParticipantI heard that the lower one (Bennett Constructions) wasn’t considered at all as to include on the short list would leave the council open to legal action from all the plans they had previously rejected. This was due to the proposed development exceeding the footprint of the site. If this is true (and it was reported on News Talk) it’s a very basic error I would think! Who was the architect on that one?
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ParticipantI must second Graham’s sentiments. The exhibition is wonderful. Due in great part to the care that was taken in making what is a nice small selection.
Pity they didn’t print up a few prints or even postcards as I’d love a copy of the beggar playing the clarinet!
One thing that struck me was how sterile Sackville street looked in some of the prints. The architecture (early Georgian?) looked slightly soul-less. It led me to wonder what this discussion board would have looked like back then.
I’d love to see a follow up exhibition on maps of Dublin.ew
ParticipantWhat menace are they? I find they add much needed life to the streets. It’s a great hobby and should be encouraged. So what if they slide on a seat rather than sit on it – at least they’re out about and using them. Its nice to sit and watch them too. All you need is a a few more seats not less then everybody can share.
Skaters as a street culture seems to get along with others on the whole and I much prefer to see this kids skating than the other parts of youth culture such as aimless hanging about bored waiting for a fight. You should give a bit of thought to what you want teenagers (mostly) to do in town. Dublin culture is very drink focused and that’s not a good thing. The other alternatives of things to do in town are shopping and cinema. both of which are also expensive. Are kids to have any presence in our cities?
I agree that dedicated skate parks should be established but these should be seen as a parallel activity to the street.
Lighten up and try and keep the skater community vibrant. It’s good for the city!ew
ParticipantI love the competition idea!
There’s only 12 buildings listed on this street, which given it’s location would could make it the worst developed street in Dublin.
The listed few are :
Talbot House (Department of Education?)
11-19 (block of 9 buildings from O’Neills Shoes up to O’Sheas Hotel at corner of gardiner street lower)
59 Licenced Prem
74 Licenced PremOne of these I’m sure is on the corner with Talbot Place and is well worth a look. If you are walking from Connolly Station its at the first corner to your left. Before bridge. Look above the windows and you’ll see quite detailed plaster(?)work with the heads of some foreign looking chaps (all different). The building, I’m told, was a tea store once upon a time and of course nothing sells tea better than a caricature of a china man. It’s build details such as these that make dublin wonderful. Can’t remember the name of the pub at the moment but they gave me a fine pint not so long ago.
And of course there’s some Joycean places on the street (and every other street in Dublin!) if you’re that way inclined:
Olhausen’s pork butcher at 72 Talbot Street
Barclay and Cook Bootmakers 104 Talbot Street
Gillen’s Hairdresser at 64 Talbot Street
O’Beirne Brothers Tea and wine merchants at the corner of Talbot and Mabbot (Corporation) Streets
Baird’s stonecutting works 20-25 Talbot Placeew
ParticipantMost of the issues raised here have been addressed in earlier schemes. Based on previous City Council schemes, to be eligible you can be earning well over the average industrial wage:
Single Income household: Income less than €32,000
Two Income household: (Principal income by 2.5) plus subsidary imcome. less than €80,000
There are a number if measures to stop you buying as a landlord. The most important is that the purchaser must live there as their principle residence.
To address profitering and speculative investment there is a “claw back” agreement.
The gist of which is as follows:You must notify CC if selling within 20 years.
The % discount you gained on buying via the scheme is calculated on purchase date and recorded.
If you sell anytime within 10 years you owe CC that percentage of your sale price.
After 10 years the % is further reduced by 10% @ so that only at the end of the subsequent 10 years (ie year 20) you would owe CC nothing if you sold the house.
Seems a pretty good balance to me.
StephenC mentions long-term residents as a possible problem – In that these should be “stepping stone” properties. This is an interesting point. So far the schemes have targeted long-term residents as the scheme attempts to produce stable communities. I don’t think it’s in anybodys interest to have an area entirely composed of young working couples who are out all day and have the attitude that they’ll only be there for a couple of years anyway. There’d be no sense of community whatsoever. That’s of course just my opinion.
I think if the CC council (or whoever) decided that it were worth the social cost to provide just a transitionary first step then the existing schemes could be modified. For example they could set a different balance by perhaps bringing the 10 year tipping point in the claw-back back to 5 years..?
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ParticipantShould be split in 4×4 I thought. See
http://www.fantasyjackpalance.com/fjp/photos/spike/spike-030115-18-tip-detail.jpg
I didn’t think it’d be noticable from the ground though.
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ParticipantWhat was that story on the news last night about a fire in a listed building in Cork? One that as luck would have it was proposed to be re-developed as apartments….?
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ParticipantAnd please bring a camera!
Where is Fantasy Jack these days?ew
ParticipantFrom http://www.DDDA.ie
George’s Dock to take Centre Stage
June 20, 2003The Dublin Docklands Development Authority announced the commencement of works at George’s Dock in the International Financial Services Centre (IFSC) to create a unique event platform to accommodate live music, theatre and even an ice rink. The result will be a spectacular enhancement to the IFSC and Docklands area.
The works involve extensive upgrading of George’s Dock to include an underwater stage, improved lighting, new water fountains, seating and handrails to increase use and enjoyment of the amenity for residents and visitors alike.
A retaining wall is also being constructed between George’s Dock and the Inner Dock to facilitate control of water levels and to allow for drainage of each of the Docks separately. This is an essential upgrade so that periodic maintenance work can be carried out in both basins, when necessary.
The upgrade of George’s Dock demonstrates the Authority’s continued commitment to developing a world class physical environment in the Dublin Docklands area.
For further information, please contact Loretta Lambkin at 01-818-3300 or 086-1717386
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ParticipantThe lift with glass walls caused quite a stir when it opened though, didn’t it?
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ParticipantI think the Portuguese got a great host town then. The islands would’ve been lovely last week. Teams stayed with the host towns for beween 3 days and a week leading up to the games. All teams are accommodated near the venues (Dublin mostly) now that the games have begun.
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ParticipantThere is no “right to light” under Irish planning. As far as I know the precedent was set with the Croke Park re-development.
(And a good thing too! see Special Olympics thread)
The overlooking issue is more complex and will depend on window positions, balconies etc.ew
ParticipantFunny way to save money though isn’t it? If we really wanted to save money and minimise the disruption the entire track could be laid in a spiral out in the docks or how about decentralising and putting it in the midlands?
Rail infrastructure shouldn’t be built in the wrong place just ‘cos it’s cheaper.ew
ParticipantAre the gas burners a permanent fixture on the roof? Should be!
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ParticipantDid you ever see the “anti-pissoirs” on the custom house? They jut out just below waist height and slope down away from the building in each corner alcove on the street side. I heard they were there to discourage dockhands relieving themselves…
Is there an architectural term for these?ew
ParticipantTo have a true groundscraper it is necessary to keep the number of entrances to 1. This will give you all the disadvantage of a highrise, with none of the advantages. All traffic in and out of the building is through this door – usually with a security/reception desk. On exiting the building you now need to walk to the end of the block before you encounter anything – such as a shop or even another office entrance. One door and one use per city block is not enough to stimulate street life.
At least Eircom is not next door to another Eircom… To fully apreciate the groundscraper environment get down to the IFSC there’s no end of examples there.ew
ParticipantThere was a similar case somewhere outside Dublin earlier in the year. It was a large sculpture that was removed from a town center (or was it modified?) as there was a risk that someone could climb up the indentations on the side of it like steps. Does anyone recall the details? There were a few photos in the papers at the time…
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ParticipantI think it’s all a bit of a non story. The Times article quotes Gary Leeson. This is the same Gary Leeson freelance photographer that took the photo of “child on bridge” that accompanies the photo.
If you vist the bridge when there is no photographer present you are unlikely to see anyone climbing the arch.ew
ParticipantHow soon after construction can you have a structure preserved. Could it be added as is to the protected structures list? Is there any precedent on this?
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ParticipantAnd you can walk on the wall’s of o Connell bridge too – risking a nasty tumble into the liffey. The sooner they get a proper high security fence up on that the safer I’ll feel. I’ve heard you can slip if you stand on the wooded rail of the boardwalk though I’m sure that can’t be true as it has won loads of design awards.
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