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Will the recent spate of violence along the quays prompt Dublin officials to rethink this plan? Or at least to alter it in relation to its occupation by the public. If we’re talking sleeker bus shelters that could translate to bunkers etc.etc…
Is that Italian one a serious entry?????
Anyway generally the “out-there” ones aren’t too bad, at least there interesting. That first one is not worth the link!Originally posted by rperse
unoriginality (or rather re-using designs) is now commonplace in dublin. As has been discussed before on this site; blackhall bridge and macken st. bridge (calatrava designs) are both copies of earlier bridges in europe…..i just wonder how much dr calatrava receives for such laziness………(this is not an attack on the bridge design).This is an attack on the bridge design…..three words…..awful, awful, awful.
Originally posted by DogsonFire
If this competition is to become some sort of criticism session of one Architect and his Architecture surely this has wasted the time, energy and money of the 500 or so who made the submission.This point is a very good one. Its not really about whether you like Gehry of not. The issue is one of self interest. Rather then proliferate the agendas of already established architects, could not a project like this be seized upon as a chance to ‘discover’ a new talent, perhaps one that is closer to home. The subject material of the brief is inherently ‘youth/pop culturally’ orientated. To sacrificially donate the chance to someone so obvious is somewhat perverse.
Oh yes lets import someone who is already beginning to parody himself (‘doing his best work at the moment’????- have you seen that music centre), rather than create our own design renaissance as the Scadinavian’s managed to do in the last century.
They created a legacy through self support and the development of national identities in this area and have continued to develop these initial innovations into the by proxy brand that Swedish, Danish and Norwegian design is today. Ireland could be on the brink of a great design age. We have well educated and talented young contributors who, if given the chance could spark a golden era in our cultural history.
Even if the winner of this competition isn’t Irish ( and I’m not suggesting that they should be) I’m shocked at the suggestion that the project should just be delivered on a plate to someone who has repeatedly demonstrated his interest in nothing more than furthering his own legacy.Originally posted by GregF
I agree, I have’nt seen the design…..but it should be given to a big name. I’m sure Gehry would produce something of a focal point and a talking point for everyone….and that’s what Dublin needs to put it up there with the big guns of cities today…..else it will just stagnate and fade back into the doldrums of insignificance. ZZzzzzzzzzzz!For the love of God can we not give it to Gehry please. Every major city in the world is going to have a Gehry or a Gehry rip-off in the next 20 years. This is a chance for someone with a new voice to make their name. It is exactly this kind of project that propells a designer into the premier league and to saddle us with an architect who , although interesting, is already beginning to seem dated and jaded,well, its a ludicrous waste.
Why must we fall back on a ‘sure thing’ when we finally have the chance of creating a scheme that is innovative and exciting and contenious. We should be taking chances on this one not playing it safe.Originally posted by Rita Ochoa
São PatrÃcio (St. Patrick) is also celebrated in Portugal, at all the irish pubs.…Of course people here have no idea about who was that english guy but it has been always a good escuse to drink and have some fun… 😉
I think he was Welsh wasn’t he?
But since they don’t know who he was I guess its a mute point.
Does anyone know whats going to happen to the houses on Henrietta that have yet to be taken in hand? Walking past today I noticed that the first on the left is up for sale by DC. I’m presuming that they’re listed but what are the conditions of sale?I’m aware that three at the top of the street have been recently renovated but surely we can make a bit more of a concerted effort to save these, they are magnificent.
I know that they were slums for a long time but when first built they were considered the finest buildings in the city before the move across the river. The facades are a bit the worst for wear ,the brick is beginning to break down after years of mistreatment. I’d hate to see them massacered for a commercial venture- anyone know anything?I think the difference between today and comunities prior to mass urban environments is that people have large spheres of aquaintance now. In ‘ye olde days’ it was those in your immediate vicinity with whom you interacted- you didn’t just live near each other but worked in the same area,frequented the same shops and pubs and more often then not were related to people in the community. You only have to read someone like George Eliot to see how decades of inter-marraige and social reliance on a core group for economic prosperity (i.e a village or farming community) intertwines families and indeed the entire populas into longterm co-dependence. No bad thing, but today people create community within their workplace or among a group of similar minded friends. It simply would not be possible to bond and form these ties with several groups of people so we quite understandably pick and choose those who are most likely to have empathy with us. I think……I don’t really know its just a theory
As far as ignorant yuppie owners and staff are concerned I have to say Shooters is fairly unsurpassed. The complete lack of ambience is not exactly helping them either.
As for Slatterys,their bathrooms are the single most ridiculous example of over-production and lack of aesthetic restraint that I have so far come across in Dublin. I thought we were moving past this visual pontificating.On rather a tangent, I was under the impression that Coady Architects had surrenderd responsibility for executing the project to the OPW- in which case it is no surprise that the more sutble aspects of the design (like the slope,which I would have thought was intrinsic to its faithful completion) have been ommitted. Perhaps for cost reasons?
