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That’s the funniest property hard-sell I’ve seen in ages. Nearly as good as Belmayne’s “gorgeous living” soft porn ad.
I take it we can expect multiple pileups on the approach road as drivers literally faint in astonishment at the sight of a 17-floor block of flats. IN CORK LIKE!!! JAYSUS!!!!Don’t be silly Darkman.
Why would the Cork Metro lines be segregated? They should all join up, obviously! 😀
Surely its just a design study/provocative image just to attract attention, and they’d have to get an architect to design the actual bridge?
I drove by this site this evening. The trees along the road are beautiful and mature, they better remain in place!
Anyone seen the piece in todays Irish Times about the Docklands? Among the suggestions are that Howard Holdings are going to apply for 2 20 storey towers for their site when the planning goes in over the summer, and that they expect to be on site this time next year …
Edited because, in the real world, a storey is apparently more than 1m in height. Blame Silvanian families adds on the telly back in the 1980s …
Its very overwhelhing, should be set back further from the street. A small plaza in front of it would be nice, at the entrance to the park.
@Rory W wrote:
to you or I a 5 minute walk but what about the eldery or mothers with kids – anyway its a real pain in the arse getting off at the green centre to go to somewhere like Temple bar – make the service practical, build the extra stop and hang the cost!
Luas is probably the only public transport people with disabilities can use without hassle. Also the trams are always full of knackered tourists (who’ve been told you can see the whole city on foot) taking very short trips.
I’d go for a much simpler system Chris …
One line, running from CIT (with a possible extension to Ballincollig at a later date) down through Dennehys Cross, along the Western Road, Washington Street, Grand Parade, then left, crossing the river in front of the exitsing bus station, right on the North quays to the Railway Station, then right on the Water Street Bridge, through the Dockland taking a left on Centre Park rd, along by the Parc and out the old alignment as far as Carrigaline, serving Mahon and Douglas along the way,
No need to go Northside (apart from Kent) because the main development corridor there is on the rail line, which will connect, or East for the same reason. Also, North is where the real hills are in Cork, which would make life very expensive. The Depot could be out somewhere near Carrig too, saving land in the city.
Should be a long term plan though (planning in the 2012-2015 period) with a new transport Authority and a reorganisation of bus routes in the interim. And around 100 news buses over the next 5 years.
Several pieces in The Examiner on 27/4/07 on the docklands. Theres a mention of the 2 new bridges to be included in the South Docklands strategy (due to be published next month), and this piece;
“A MAMMOTH hotel, office, retail and residential development, three times bigger than Croke Park, will Be the largest construction project of its kind ever under taken in Cork once planning permission is secured.The docklands development plans, which include a 200-bedroomed hotel, will be submitted in July for approval.
The docklands has potential for seven million sq ft of non-residential development and for 10,000 units of residential development providing for a resident population of 20,000 and 25,000 jobs. The ambitious project, earmarked for a docklands site adjacent to Pairc Ui Chaoimh, is a joint venture proposal between property developers Howard Holdings and Tedcastle Group landowners.
The entire development covers 2.3 million sq ft a size equal to three times that of the GAA’s Croke Park in Dublin.”
Anybody got pics or a map?
How I miss Lexington …
Can I just point out something about Cork Airport’s Terminal
1) Cork Airport Authority had nothing to do with budgeting it, building it, constructing it.
2) It was built by Aer Rianta and is under management of the DUBLIN AIRPORT AUTHORITYThe terminal’s not oversized, nor is it over spec’d. It’s a nice, decent terminal and very appropriate for the size of the city and the usage of the airport.
Note that Dublin’s Terminal 2 will only be about twice the size and is being estimated to cost about €2bn…
It all depends on how you present the figures and what your agenda is.
This whole fiasco is to be layed at the door of the Government and the current minister for transport.Cork Airport Authority and the people of cork were given a firm committment that the airport would be debt free and thus compeditive. That hasn’t happened.
There were all sorts of petty last min. cuts like not installing air bridges, forcing it to use old rusty trolleys.. couldn’t be worse PR
Whatever messy accounting’s going on with the DAA is really besides the point. The issue is FF made a committment, a very serious one, and then completely rolled back on it. That’s totally unacceptable.
It will mean that the airport’s not going to be compeditive and will inevitably loose routes into Europe, particularly ones with tighter margins.It’s a major gateway for tourism and business to the entire south west and it’s insanity to be playing around with the future of a major peice of infrastructure like that.
I really think the minister ought to resign. How anyone could mess something that big up, that publically and that badly and keep their job is beyond me. I would suspect he’s not exactlyt he most popular person at any FF meetings in Cork as it must be making life hell for the local candidates, including Micheal Martin.
It also makes no sense that DAA should retain the international aspects of Aer Rianta. It’s a hugely unfair advantage as those overseas duty frees are a large and very profitable operation.The government should have just spun the 3 airports out as 3 debt free organisations. Aer Rianta duty free should have been spun off as a seperate company giving each airport a proprortional share holding or something fair like that.
weehamster,
I’m taking the lack of public transport to be a given!
The two issues are parallel and interlinked. Poor public transport’s coupled with very poor road infrastructure planning. There’s little logic to what’s going on.Houses being built with access to neither public transport or road transport.
Not to mention placing vast amounts of housing on unserviced land with no amenities.
Then we wonder why we’re stuck in traffic, have over crowded schools, undrinkable water and eircom’s going we can provide you with broadband in 2018.
However, in the short term, I do think that the local authorities could take significant pressure off by applying a little intelligence ot the road network i.e. smart lights, proper traffic management, lane management, car pooling, ensuring junctions flow etc etc
It’s a bit like using Mr. Muscle drain unblocker on a backed up sewage system. It might not solve the problem in the long term, but things have to keep moving!
Personally, I just do not understand Ireland’s motorway building ‘policy’ at all.
How long are we building now? Yet we must be one of the only countries in Western Europe not to have a direct moroway link between our two main cities (i.e. Dublin and Cork)
The routes make no sense at all, duplication of routings as motorways operate in near parallel out of Dublin following the ancient lines of the old N-Road system instead of building new efficient routings that actually might have regional benefit.
I simply can’t understand how we keep building these little by-passes.
I’ve always suspected that the projects are being drip-fed as otherwise, Irish contractors wouldn’t be big enough to take on an entire motorway project thus “friends of certain political parties” may be left out of the loop…
Whoever though that it was a reasonable sollution to use roundabout junctions on the M50 was clearly living on another planet. It was completely stupid, short sighted and purely idiotic. There’s no insufficient space for proper cloverleaf sollutions which ought to have been built in the first place and even if they weren’t they should have at least reserved the necessary land!!
We’ll now have sort of half-baked cloverleafs that do the job, but in a convoluted stacked way.The signage on the M50, (bar the newest bit) is an absolute digrace and causes chaos at junctions as the M50 commuters mix with those of us who only use the road occasionally. The commuters all know which lane to be in and when someone who’s not quite so familar with the mess that is Blanchardstown’s interchanges you get blasted out of it as you weren’t in lane 8km before a sign which is so small that you can only read it from 50 meters away.
The same applies to a lot of the N roads too.
On other traffic issues (to just diverge slightly off topic)
Dublin *still* seems to have a largely timed traffic light system. Putting in a smart system would actually drastically reduce traffic and queing times at lights. I cannot understand why this hasn’t been given priority. Even Cork has 92 nodes of Siemens’ / Peak’s SCOOT system fully implemented which has reduced queing times and pre-empted traffic growth. 92 nodes covers basically all intersections (each node handles more than a single junction)
Dublin, meanwhile, has gone for SCATS, which is vastly inferior and patchily implemented. SCOOT can actually detect how long queues are, intelligently work out flow patterns etc etc. SCATS can only see cars as they pass the stop line!!! It’s an enormous difference as it means the Cork system can actually tell if there are long queues waiting and work out priorities on all junctions.
SCOOT’s used extensively in the UK e.g. 1600 nodes in London (also 55 nodes in Belfast,)
You can see the difference, Cork traffic lights are setup logically and seem to optimise flow. Dublin’s clearly aren’t.Info on scoot : http://www.scoot-utc.com/DetailedHowSCOOTWorks.php?menu=Technical
Intelligent signage, smart traffic lights, clever use of lane opening/closing and use of hardshoulders at peak times could all help dratically resolve traffic issues in parts of Dublin. I just can’t understand why no one is doing anything about it!!There needs to be something done to really highlight some of the simple issues tha could be tackled to reduce congestion.
I presume the Luas line is being completely rerouted. Isn’t it great we have so much money now we can afford to rip up tramlines that are only a few years old? Also, love the fantasy world in these photomontages where red cow/M50 traffic is only a few brightly-coloured cars and trucks at regular 50-metre intervals. The sun is beaming, so it can’t be Christmas Day…
Irish Rail are not part of the Government.
And ‘by end of 2008’ has always been the line on the Midleton project, it hasn’t changed. Doesn’t answer the question as to why the Minister has yet to sign the works order.
The NRA studies reckon that IKEA would increase traffic on that part of the M50 by 12% as it is now, and by 8% when its three lanes.
