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In terms of the cost of this, would it not be better to look at reopening the Midleton-Youghal railway line?
Unfortunately, no. The costs of running the Midleton line to Youghal, at least in the medium term, are a lot higher than you’d expect, and the additional traffic generated would be much less that that required to run a service. Prioblem is that Youghal isn’t that big, it doesn’t have the capacity to generate that much extra critical mass. Midleton is being developed at the pace it is precisely because it does have extant critical mass to require such services, and it already has significant transport infrastructure.
Additionally, a lot of the traffic on that section of the N25 isn’t local, it isn’t really that much of a commuter route, its a major route for heavy transport (read trucks). Upgrading the road is required anyways, the increase in business in the area is putting the network under severe pressure. Putting a sizeable park n’ride in Midleton, with enough trainsets to run a proper service, in addition to improved roads on the Midleton-Youghal section is the chosen solution for a reason. Whether it works out like that is a different matter.
In any case, the railway alignment will remain in public hands. Who knows, in 20 years, when Midleton is a city in its own right (!), the maybe extending it will be an option. It isn’t now.
If you look in section 5.2.14 (p20) of the original Midleton ED plan, theres an outline of NRA proposals for that section of the N25 – they mention 2010-2015 as a timeframe, which would make sense given the funding time frame – after the major inter urban routes will be completed (not including the Kilcullen to Waterford stretch). The Cork Limerick route and the Northern Ring should also see major developments in that timeframe.
Theres also plans for two northern roads around Midleton, one is in planning now and will be quite close to the town, the other is mentioned in the Special Local Area plan for Midleton, and will be further out, designed to serve the developments to be constructed in the Broomfield area. The second one is probably 10 years away though, if ever.
Midleton ED Plan.
The majority of the new building is to go north of the town, in the area around Broomfield. Not sure about the ‘size of Galway’ line, but the reckoning in the Draft Special Local Area Plan is that the population will be of the order of 23,000 by 2020 – the presence of the rail link being justified by a large, critical mass of housing and services.
A lot of this is old news, its already set out in the County Development Plan (2003) and the CASP, but the Draft Local Area plan is here;
By the way…
A big welcome to the OMP boys who just opened thier Cork office on South Mall, the office is to be headed by Conor Kinsella
@ewankennedy wrote:
I know Lex posted this a while back so I’m just refreshing it but it would seem yeah that phase 2 of Victoria mills is just the ugly sister of the first phase. See the pic at link -> http://www.dtarch.com/04current.html
Ah yes the simplicity of using massing boxes on a 3D site plan, then removing spaces for windows. Anyway it’s hard not to begrudge students of today, when I think of the happy broncial days I spent shivering in the dark dampness of my first bedsit… Happy days, when the hardest decision was another pint or electricity… 🙂
re the pink link – i have no idea how much it cost but I expect that it would be quite significant – and btw – the land around those 4-5 houses is not zoned for development – residential or otherwise it is A1 Greenbelt Land- the Main Cork Dublin Road will act as the development boundary for Glanmire to the north-east.
Also, i mentioned that i thought it was twee because of the confusion between the simple cable tie structure and the silly stone-effect cladding and olde-world lighting posts – in fairness its a matter of taste but i would personally have preferred a contemporary structure instead of a half modernish half -old fashioned ‘effort’
does anyone know the cost of the Pink Link bridge in Glanmire? – it was built to facilitate approx 4-5 houses – I have yet to see one person use that bridge – what a waste of funds – value for money! btw it looks terrible in my opinion – fussy and a bit twee for a motorway bridge.
Besides the public drinking I don’t think the Gardai are short of reasons to get involved: Possession of drugs, openly taking of drugs in public place, intoxication/drunkeness, intimidation of passers-by, litter offences/dumping of rubbish in to river etc etc In fact last week on the boardwalk I saw girl strapping the arm of a male friend and injecting directly in front of an onlooking toddler!!
Disgrace.
@rodger wrote:
Ohhh! thank you,so how did the exams go?
Lets just say, thank god they r over and done with :confused:
Suppose exams will be exams-annoying… But heres2a summer of fun 😀
@rodger wrote:
I think Bowens possibly have a large project to build in the City hall area of Cork,I dont know if any one noticed the bowens crane on no.5 & 6 Lapps Quay some time back,maybe they just gave OFlynns a loan of it !
The reason why the Bowen Crane was there is because Bowen Construction built No.6 Lapps Quay.
Exams finished with at last-so must really start contributing more to this thread. There really is a wonderful bank of knowledge contained within this thread. Fair play to every1who contributes to this thread. 🙂
I must agree. It is a disgrace. This section of the boardwalk is now dominated by druggies and drunks. It is seriously intimidating. Gardai at nearby Store St and Pearse St seem to keep well clear of it.
Drug clinics at Amiens St and Pearse St attract a huge number of undesirables into this area. The opening of the drug clinic on Amiens st (next to the Dart station) a few years ago resulted in the permanent closure of the that Dart station. Access to Dart platforms is now only through Connolly mainline. Apparently it was closed because of druggies wheeling and dealing, shooting up, and generally intimidating people in the pedestrian access tunnels.
Anyway it now appears the boardwalk is their favoured venue for such activities.
It’s nice to see the Canty site is finally begun development, after taking an excessive pounding from the Fire Officer!!
There are a number of defences to a claim for defamation. Most importantly if what one says/writes is true, then no defamation has occurred. If legal action is being taken, then what was written may not have been true in the first place.
The moral of the story is not to send in inaccurate letters to the Local Authority.The difference with the James Joyce bridge is that the finished product lived up to the computer renderings. I had no strong opinions about the new pedestrian bridge from the initial images. I think the design was OK, but the finish is crap – even a lick of white paint would help!
I still don’t understand the need for the barriers here if they’re not needed anywhere else on the Liffey.Google maps launched their Ireland / England site last week.
http://www.google.co.uk/mapsStill lacking alot of detail, especially outside the major cities.
No satellite imagery available yet either (the US one does)But handy for Cork City.
rodger,
what do you mean ‘restricted to comparison retail by covenant’ – does it not have a Town Centre Zoning? – including convenience?
Also, the black barriers are only submerged at high tide. When I went to have look, they were jutting up high above the water. Very ugly and surely unneccessary
Have to say it’s quite industrial-looking, particularly the colour. Compares poorly with the James Joyce bridge.
Any word on an appeal to ABP by the developers of Water Street? Seems like with all the wasted time and effort they spent jumping through the hoops Cork Corporation put up for them, and since the project was always likely to go to ABP whatever happened they might as well try their luck with an appeal. They have a decent enough case and I’m confident they’d get a better outcome.
As for the Eglinton Street project, I get the bad feeling that the Corporation will give it the go ahead but with the tower element dropped and a floor or two removed from the rest just for the sake of it. Seems to be a lack of ambition on the part of the powers that be in Cork at the moment. Judging from what they were prepared to allow at Water Street they have about as much ambition as their equivalents in the Dublin docklands. And thats definitely not a good thing.
