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  • in reply to: Irish Rural Dwellers Association #767098
    Devin
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    @Lobby wrote:

    the Irish Rural Dwellers Association

    You mean the Irish Rural Destruction Association … (Oh the smug D4-ness of it!! 🙂 )

    in reply to: Motorways in Ireland #756173
    Devin
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    I wouldn’t even call them “Motorways” – more like “sprawl facilitators”

    We’re under the false impression that Ireland is getting Motorways to link the big urban centres, but really these roads are just being clogged by commuters living ever deeper into the countryside.

    in reply to: Dublin Historic Stone Paving disbelief #764055
    Devin
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    Keep your hat on! It’s O’Connell Street – it’s going to get looked after, isn’t it? It’s every other street in the city (other than O’Connell Street) that you have to worry about.

    in reply to: Luas Central – Which Route? #763563
    Devin
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    B is a loo-lah route! I’m leaving Dublin if B gets picked (or anything other than A for that matter).

    in reply to: Dublin Historic Stone Paving disbelief #764052
    Devin
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    Like a stone wall, stone paving has a visual and structural logic; the way the stones are arranged together is very important. This stretch of antique stone paving running down a side lane off Pearse Street, by St. Mark’s Church, could be up to 200 years old and has had little or no alteration. You can see the organic quality of it – stones of different sizes coursed and bonded together happily.

    There is an unbelievable situation prevailing in this city where €300,000 can spent last year on restoring O’Connell Street’s stone monuments, engaging various professional conservators and other specialists (a great job and money well spent). But when it comes to repair & conservation work to Dublin’s antique stone paving, the budget is €0; no professional expertise is sought; all work is done in-house by the Council’s Roads Maintenance Division (or its contractors). This might be ok if the Roads Maintenance workers were capable of treating the paving in an appropriate way, but sadly the opposite has been the case. Some of the most savage and unlawful work to our priceless antique paving has been done by this department.

    Here is one such job in progress on Castle Street not too long ago, illustrating 2 common problems:

    1. Raised cement pointing, messily smeared outside the joints also.
    2. Idiotic diagonal cutting of individual flagstones, making a visual nonsense of the paving.

    Here is another savage job carried out right at the foot of Francis Johnston’s monumental arch entrance to the (now) BoI Arts Centre which closes Foster Place, one of our most important historic areas. A dish has been brutally inserted as if the existing paving wasn’t there – partly using non-matching white granite and again including fussy diagonal cutting of flagstones and messy cement pointing.

    As anyone who has worked on an old building knows, there are always compromises – you can’t usually make as many modern concessions as you would like to because you have to work with the fabric of the structure and respect its integrity. It’s the same with historic stone paving. But this principle has been almost completely ignored when it comes to Dublin’s historic paving.

    This is also quite common: The listed antique kerbstones seen here on Ormond Quay Lower are in the process of being removed and replaced with Chinese white granite. They just do this kind of thing all the time and hope no one will notice …. something to put in their end-of-year report. In this instance I managed to report it to the Conservation Officer in the Council and work was stopped. But there are hundreds of examples of this around the city – streets with “listed” antique paving or kerbing sloppily half-replaced in modern white granite (which becomes grey and ingrained with dirt almost immediately and looks as dull as concrete).

    Here is another mess at the corner of Earlsfort Terrace and Hatch Street Upper, like Graham’s example from Trinity: red crossing-point tiles thrown in all over the place in a random pattern, bits of surviving antique paving mixed in with concrete flags, and the usual straps of cement pointing. For jobs like these, there seems to be no consideration of the various treatment options, no plans submitted for approval. It seems that they just come along and decide what to do there and then, with usually disastrous results.

    The antique granite has a naturally abrasive surface and is quite grippy in all conditions anyway. It’s questionable that these studded tiles are needed at all, especially in a comparatively low-footfall area like this.

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    Almost all of the surviving antique paving and kerbing in the city is listed for protection in the Development Plan, which states “It is the policy of Dublin City Council to preserve, repair and retain in situ historic paving … [which is] identified in the Development Plan”. But it’s not worth the paper it’s written on, because no system of consultation has been put place to see that this objective is observed or to see that work to the paving is carried put in accordance with best practice principles.

    While the Council’s Roads Maintenance Division have carried out most of the work that I refer to, the blame for all of this lies ultimately with the Planning Department and their failure to put such a system in place. Jim Keoghan is the Council official who has for the last number of years been in charge of the Development Plan’s Record of Protected Structures and other items listed for protection.

    It really is a sorry state of affairs – historic stone paving is a hugely valuable asset and distinguishing feature of a city – it should be pristine.

    in reply to: Dublin Street Lighting #755700
    Devin
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    There was a big foundry at Hammond Lane, in the Docklands – a lot of the Dublin lamps were produced there as far as I know.

    in reply to: Dublin Street Lighting #755694
    Devin
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    Yeah thanks from me too, Simon.

    I am fascinated now as to what the original column finish would’ve looked like “polished” and “smooth” as you say, now that they are down to the rough mix, as seen in the picture below (a crop from a pic I posted earlier).

    It’s amazing that most or all of the original mottled or “rimpled” (a new word for me!) glass seems to survive in the few remaining Dublin lamps.

    There are examples on odd streets here and there around Dublin of the slightly later, more slender colums you refer to (but still having an art deco element to their design). I will try’n get some pictures.

    in reply to: O’ Connell Street, Dublin #729878
    Devin
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    The outer hall is not actually bricked up, but in poor condition nonetheless. You can just see it here through the arch on the left (picture on left). And a view in the opposite direction (pic on right). The white stuff on the stair handrail is a layer of bird droppings!

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    in reply to: Dublin Street Lighting #755689
    Devin
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    The concrete lamps are certainly getting a fair oul’ innings on this thread (and rightly so!!).

    I’ve seen that wear Phil. The marks of buses and other vehicles grazing against them can be seen all over the lower parts of them. Well at least by talking about them in this thread we are hopefully drawing attention to their plight!

    How depressing if all the old removed ones have been ground as lunasa says! 🙁

    Here’s another ’90s view of one of the (scandalously recently) removed ones on College Street and its ‘heritage’ replacement (not to mention the building behind!).

    in reply to: O’ Connell Street, Dublin #729876
    Devin
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    I was in it a few years ago. It’s actually not that bad. The 1st floor rooms are reasonably intact, if in very poor condition. As far as I remember all of the bare breeze block work is in the basement – it was being altered for a nightclub :rolleyes: (back in the ’80s), but it never went ahead.

    The stairwell/staircase definitely has the WOW factor. And the ceiling in that 1st floor front room is a knockout. There’s a full photographic survey of the interior as it currently exists in planning application 5336/03, available at DCC panning desk (when is the approved refurbishment going to go ahead, I’d like to know?!).

    in reply to: Eoghan Harris on one-off housing #764928
    Devin
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    The town of Totnes in Devon, UK (below) – an example of what is so rarely seen in Ireland anymore – a sharply defined relationship between a town and its surrounding landscape. Here, the hillside in the distance would be splattered with development.

    This is going to become the critical planning and development issue of the next couple of decades in Ireland: how to extend our towns and villages coherently – it already is a big issue. The one-off housing controversy is not going to go away just because restrictions on building them have been relaxed. As the countryside becomes more and more disfigured by houses and as the social and environmental problems of them mount it’s all going to come to a big head again. We will realise that we have two settlement strategies flying in opposite directions to each other (the encouragement of higher densities and consolidation of urban centres on one hand, and the encouragement of the proliferation of dispersed housing on the other).

    As MT said, at the current rate we will soon be going on holidays in the UK to see the likes of this:

    in reply to: New Public Space for Docklands #765253
    Devin
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    Yes, the red pole is ‘on’ at night, as you can see in the photo below. But beware – the camera has not reproduced the effect at all; what looks like an orangey light there is actually a deep, brilliant red – every bit as red as appearing in the CGI at the start of the thread. I have to say I think it looks really good.

    The mast with blue light also looks good (better than it does in the photo).

    in reply to: Liffey Cable Cars – Pointless Gimmick or…. #766737
    Devin
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    I was reading this yesterday and going ‘this is a joke, isn’t it?’ Later in the day I thought maybe I was imagining what I’d read – checked the paper again, but no it was true ….

    I’ve nothing against imaginative ideas, and the Liffey does need imagination, but sorry I just think you couldn’t do this to a river running through the middle of a old city. Maybe in parts of the Docklands it would be good, but definitely not in the historic area.

    in reply to: How well do you know Dublin? #765820
    Devin
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    That BoI bollard is actually a concrete replica Graham! – but the other of the two (on the Westmoreland St. side) is stone.

    I won’t comment on these new pictures so as someone else can have a go.

    in reply to: How well do you know Dublin? #765817
    Devin
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    Ok I see now from rereading the first post that F must be within the canals … still flummoxed!

    in reply to: How well do you know Dublin? #765816
    Devin
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    This is good crack!
    Yeah H is beside the Epicurean Food Hall on Lr. Liffey Street.
    D is at the corner of Stepen’s Green and Dawson Street.
    G is one of two bollards at the BoI House of Lords portico, College Gn.

    Can’t get that F cupola thing! Is it out towards the D4 area somewhere?
    The chimneys … God Graham, there must be a fair few of them around. Didn’t some Georgian houses receive decorative pots like that later on? – but you are hinting that they reflect the style of the building …

    in reply to: The Four Courts – A Possible Restoration? #765713
    Devin
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    The original besign had the two side buildings approx 15 metres closer to the liffey.

    It wasn’t that much – only about 3 or 4 metres, or one window bay. You can see it here in this pre-’22 pic (below). Now the wings are flush with the arcade screen. They also had valley roofs, closed in at the front, giving them a more blockish and powerful appearance. Now they are single-pitched.

    in reply to: O’ Connell Street, Dublin #729869
    Devin
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    The caf

    in reply to: vitrolite shopfronts #757183
    Devin
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    And here’s my one of it (fortunately different pictures this time 😮 🙂 ) :

    in reply to: Dublin skyline #747821
    Devin
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    What appear to be single storeys there are double storeys.

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