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  • in reply to: New street and redevelopment for Dublin ? #764586
    Devin
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    Arnotts AI is in. If you made an original submission, you have until June 29th to comment on it. They’ve substantially bumped up the size of the corner tower at Abbey Street/Liffey Street, apparently as there were no major objections to it – quite incredible!! Where previously no objections might be a sign that you’d get to build what you applied for, now it’s a sign that you can go for something much bigger instead! Get out of it, Arnotts / HKR architects! There is scope for a slender tower of max 10 or 12 stories at that corner, but certainly not your latest proposal!

    Still loads of problems with the design otherwise – gratuitous canopies riding horizontally across distinct individual building plots and the like …. but what do you expect from HKR?

    Devin
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    Some bits were taken off the Essex Street side also (no current photo to hand) :

    And from An Taisce magazine, ‘Living Heritage’, Autumn 1993:

    in reply to: Dublin Historic Stone Paving disbelief #764138
    Devin
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    Funny you should mention him Alek; there’s a pavement-widening job going on at the moment on Capel Street and, difficult though it is to believe, it is being executed to a high standard. Listed kerbing and, where surviving, paving is being incorporated in situ and neatly pointed in a sand-lime mix, and new paving built out from that.

    The council’s only work where old paving is concerned has been destructive, so it couldn’t be by them, could it? No, it’s by Wallace.

    in reply to: Dublin Historic Stone Paving disbelief #764131
    Devin
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    Yes, true, they shouldn’t actually be located on the pavement at all where this granite paving exists. At the edge of the road or within the premises itseld should have been the option.

    Lotts,
    Des Callaghan of the Waterworks Dept. – 2224397 – is in charge of the job. Also the senior engineer for the area – seamus.duffy@dublincity.ie. And the Heritage Officer – donncha.odulaing@dublincity.ie – whose is officially in charge of listed street furniture.
    Do complain. I’ve found out that the Georgian Society, whose office is on Merrion Square, have also been onto the council about it, but the more hassle they get, the better.

    @GrahamH wrote:

    What is the exact status of this ‘listing’ of pavements, because the Record doesn’t include them

    That’s the catch! You would have to be able to prove they formed part of the curtilage of the adjoining prot structures. Then they would require pp for work, and it would all have to be done according to best practice and different options would have to be considered etc. etc. But the pavements are separately owned by the council, under the care of the Roads Maintenance section, and so can be destroyed before you know about it … the whole thing is a farce!

    in reply to: Dublin Historic Stone Paving disbelief #764127
    Devin
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    Aw stop, it would drive you to drink! …. It’s the Dublin City Council Water Metering Project. Have just lodged a big complaint about it.

    Firstly, I’m sorry if people are sick of looking at close-up pictures of pavements, but this has really got to be documented up here:

    Herbert Street

    Merrion Square East

    The project has been ongoing for the past couple of months in the south Georgian area of the city. It involves insertion of a meter with a plastic cover in the pavement in front of every premises in the area. Kerbing is unaffected, but, where complete listed pavements exist, it requires removal of one or more flagstones in the pavement to insert the meter. The remaining area around the meter was initially filled in with a dollop of tarmac (as seen above), pending the careful cutting and reinstating of removed flagstones … no problems so far ….

    Reinstatement work has begun in the past couple weeks and ……. you’ll never guess ……. they are making a rotten mess of it and muggins has to go chasing it up. The old flags are not being put back; white granite and concrete is being used instead, then the cement is slapped on …….

    There’s all this blather in the Development Plan about the Georgian cores of the city being of ‘international importance’ and establishing a ‘national urban idiom’ but, once again, the CC is exposed as having no system for standards of work to these valuable pavements.

    Fitzwillian Square North. Yum!

    Upper Pembroke Street. Mix ‘n match.

    Upper Mount Street. We’ll put in a few concrete flags here – no one will notice .. quicker than cutting old granite …

    Upper Mount Street. The utter sloppiness of it!

    in reply to: Dublin Historic Stone Paving disbelief #764122
    Devin
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    That’s jogged my memory hutton; while City Hall was refurbished in 2000, the bollards appeared roundabout 2003. They must have clamped down on parking along this stretch at the same time. Still, no insights as to the bollards, as you say …

    in reply to: Dublin Historic Stone Paving disbelief #764120
    Devin
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    Staying with City Hall for a minute:

    Late ’90s picture, showing the intact west pavement of City Hall on the right.

    15 bollards and 2 heritage bins have since been added.

    Again, same issues as with the plaza paving bollards next door:

    – the cut required for each bollard means permanent irreversible damage to the historic paving fabric

    – no consultation or justification presented; the bollards just appeared one day. There had been a problem with people parking on the street in this location as far as I remember, but not on the pavement … so why the great need for bollards?

    Granted it can be said that the painted cast iron design here is more visually appropriate to the paving and the surrounds than the stainless steel used at the plaza.

    The square cut needed for the bollard. Note shocking raised cement pointing also. I see that City Hall has just won another award for its conservation (reported in paper last week) :

    http://www.riai.ie/index.html?id=7237

    Hmmmmm ….

    in reply to: Shopfront race to the bottom #776051
    Devin
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    Wexford Street here would be a bit like that article describes. And Parnell, Talbot, Dorset and Capel Streets to some degree. It’s a pity – the secondary shopping streets just seem to get worse, with no hope for good design.

    in reply to: Looking after the Millenium Wing. #764230
    Devin
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    On a related note –
    At the beginning, the whole place seemed like a wow, but something that strikes me going back there now a few years later is that they maybe overdid it with the slits ‘n shapes in the wall. They’re everywhere, like a plague breaking out, every door you open, everywhere you turn … Should have held back a bit maybe.

    in reply to: Irish say no to PVC windows #744976
    Devin
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    And, as with the politics, the other crowd aren’t any better. Check out the backdrop in Chez Enda here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhR2KsrB5GQ

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    No building, it seems, is safe from PVC. O’Braoinan’s shop in Castlecomer in Killkenny was cited in Nessa Roche’s 1999 book on the history of Irish windows (‘The Legacy of Light’) as a rare example of a traditional pub-grocer with original features intact.

    NIAH page

    But by the time it came to be recorded by the NIAH in 2003, it’d been PVC’d.

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    Not even semi-demolished buildings are safe from PVC! Both pictures above show the remains of the stucco-embellished facade of No. 62 Thomas Street, Dublin, with sash windows still in the 1st floor.

    And, a short time later, after PVC-ing.

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    It’s not like all this PVCing has continued for want of nothing being done about it. These are from a 1998 report called ‘The Plasticisation of Ireland’:

    in reply to: Talbot Street, Dublin #736258
    Devin
    Participant

    @tommyt wrote:

    Had a brief chat with the proprietot of the internet cafe that was there before it started to redevelop. He said it was structurally unsound but the council wouldn’t let the owners knock it. From viewing the inside of the building from the top deck of the bus I think this is the case. There are a lot of RSJ’s and other supporting beams up inside the shell at present. The internet cafe guy was hoping to relet the premises when finished

    Thanks. The building is definitely worth retaining.

    in reply to: Talbot Street, Dublin #736251
    Devin
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    That stucco building above could be lovely.

    Does anybody know what is happening with these hoarded off buildings (below) on Talbot Street? Can’t search cos I don’t have street numbers (& can’t be arsed trawling through 177 Talbot St apps on the CC’s site).

    The building up against the bridge is quite nice. It is clearly a late-Victorian or Edwardian copy of a Dutch-influenced, late-17th/early-18th century house with narrow windows & decorative gable, the ones we are told Dublin was full of back then. A lot of original gable-fronters were still being demolished throughout the 20th century, as documented by Maurice Craig, yet this careful copy shows that there must have been some awareness of their type around 1900 ..….. or …… is it a refacing of an original which had a similar facade? That would be quite interesting. Either way, I hope it is not just about to be demolished ….. hope ….

    in reply to: Irish say no to PVC windows #744972
    Devin
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    NIAH page

    Old building in the Market Square in Blessington, Co. Wicklow, 2004. Again, miserably sized picture and you can just about see the sashes – and no additional photos.

    But it’s really had a bollocking now.

    Prior to work (my pic)

    And look at the numbskull 1970s-style rear extension that’s been added along with the PVC, destroying the vernacular form of the building ….. and this just last year to a prominently-sited building in the market square of a town!

    It’s wild out there. In the regions, there seems to be a special planning rule that doesn’t appear in any development plan or planning act : if the local building owner wants to invest in his/her building, you bloody well let them do so, in whatever way they see fit …

    At the other end of the Square in Blessington, there is a similar vernacular-Georgian building, marked over on the left.

    Here it is in a 1960s picture.

    NIAH page

    And here it is as recorded by the NIAH in 2004, with PVC Georgian windows.

    The building has just been refurbished. Great – an opportunity then to remove the plastic windows and reinstate accurate replicas of the original painted timber sash windows, thus restoring the integrity of the building, right?

    Unfortunately not. Cheap flap stained-timber mock-sashes have just been put in.

    What’s the problem Wicklow County Council? You’ve had 7 years now to write Protected Structures and Archit. Conservation Areas in your Development Plan, yet these two significant vernacular buildings in the middle of Blessington have been fouled up within the past year – at least I’m assuming that a lack of P&D Act 2000 protection is why this has happened.

    But even if they are not protected, the civilised thing to do now when these type of older buildings come up for repair is to ensure that features and character is appropriately restored – and god knows we can afford to do that these days – and that new extensions are sympathetic, yet all the wrong things have just happened …. It is shameful. What is your policy on older buildings, Wicklow?

    in reply to: Irish say no to PVC windows #744971
    Devin
    Participant

    I’m pretty sure the Capel Street windows were timber, but they do have a plastic moulding-ey look alright.

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    Buildings recorded by the NIAH in the early ‘00s have since been PVC’d. Here are just four examples I’ve noticed – three of them because I worked on the survey in question (Kildare) and remember the buildings. God knows how many others there are from all around the country:

    NIAH page

    Newbridge, Co. Kildare, 2003

    And the same building now.

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    NIAH page

    Leixlip, Co. Kildare, 2003. The pictures of the NIAH’s buildings have been published at such a miniscule size that it’s sometimes hard to even see what kind of windows are in the building, and there aren’t always additional detail shots. But I remember that this building had fine early-19th century sashes.

    And now with PVC.

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    NIAH page

    Kilcock, Co. Kildare, 2003. Same problem here. If it wasn’t for the window close-up in ‘Additional Images’ you would scarcely be able to tell that the building had had sashes when it was recorded, and the picture is not quite sharp either.

    In any event it’s been all plastic-ed up now. Yum, yum.

    PVC-ing of old buildings in Irish towns seems to indicate that the building is going to be used rather than let rot, or even – shock horror – lived in by natives!

    Devin
    Participant

    The Clarion Quay award got a piece on Six One on Mon. Good on all involved.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0326/6news_av.html?2232466,null,230

    in reply to: Irish say no to PVC windows #744967
    Devin
    Participant

    ‘Conserve A Sash’, I want to give this example of a glazing bar type that is beginning to be seen a lot and ask you what you think:

    No. 6 Capel Street (seen at the end of the block, above) had some funny windows on the first floor until recently. But they’ve now been replaced with 2-over-2 sashes as on the upper floors, a welcome measure to improve the design unity of the façade and the terrace as a whole.

    But unfortunately the new windows (above) have the thick, clumsy glazing bar you associate with sub-divided, double-glazed sashes, and it jars with the slender bars of the existing old windows on the upper floors imo. A small thing perhaps, but they’re becoming quite common. Can this glazing bar in double-glazing be improved upon in your opinion, or, as joyce from Bolgers/Ventrolla maintains, it would be better to stick with single glazing; there are options which are just as efficient as double-glazing?

    in reply to: Shopfront race to the bottom #776044
    Devin
    Participant

    I’m sure they have suffered alright, but seem to be still making efforts to protect the local shops. Viva la baguette! Piece here:

    DEFENDING AGAINST ‘LA LONDONISATION’

    Other European countries are protecting their shops from the predatory claws of the multi national brands, writes Deirdre McQuillan , Fashion Editor.

    Around where I stay in Paris during fashion week, I am surrounded by cafes, restaurants and small shops selling everything from kitchenware and lingerie to jewellery, cakes, clothes and antiques. Small independent retail and artisanal outlets are part of the attraction and pleasure of the French capital, along with great butchers, vegetable, fruit and cheese shops, not to speak of florists and bakeries at nearly every turn. It’s a standard of life that French city centres are accustomed to and its vibrancy and survival are down to French planning laws.

    In l973 the Royer Act was passed to protect small shops, improve the quality of urban life and prevent “inordinate growth of new forms of distribution that squeeze out small entrepreneurs”. Its Commission for Commercial Urbanisation evaluates each planning application on merit and is entrusted to ensure a good balance of all forms of commerce. There are regulations on direct selling, discount selling and advertising and on the encouragement of artisan trading. Its chambers of commerce are far more powerful and have greater responsibilities for trading than their Irish equivalents.

    In other parts of Europe it’s the same. In Rome, another shopping haven, landmark shops are protected from the predatory claws of multinational brands and franchises by an alliance called the Association of Rome’s Historic Shops, which makes shopping and strolling for the visitor such a treat. The association promotes “and defends the values” of shops that have existed for over a hundred years and are considered to be institutions by Romans. Many are still in the ownership of the same families and are cherished emblems of the traditions and culture of the city.

    Though Italy under Berlusconi welcomed globalisation, Rome has still managed to resist Starbucks (which has nearly 500 outlets in the UK) and when an intended McDonalds site was announced near the Spanish Steps, it prompted a massive demonstration that propelled the fledgling slow food movement into the fast lane. The McDonalds did eventually open, but the golden arches were noticeable only for being uncharacteristically discreet.

    According to a 2001 report, most OECD countries have special regulations that apply to retail premises, over and above regular urban planning regulations. Only five countries, of which Ireland is one, do not have special measures. Dublin City Council, however, is in the process of putting special planning controls in place to micromanage the balance of retail uses in designated city-centre areas.

    Copenhagen was transformed from a declining urban centre into the thriving and reinvigorated city it is today thanks to the work of the visionary architect Jan Gehl. “If you asked people 20 years ago why they went to central Copenhagen they would have said it was to shop,” he says. “But if you ask them today, they would say because they want to go to town.” Note the difference. To walk down Stroget, the Danish equivalent of Grafton Street, is to encounter appealing diversity and local character, small shops alongside specialist Danish department stores with plenty of places to sit and linger. Gehl formulated 12 steps, including places to sit, as central to city management strategies. In Barcelona, Las Ramblas is another successful public place at the heart of that city’s revival.

    However, the picture in the UK, as in Ireland, is quite different. So-called retail-led development like urban malls or big chain store shopping has resulted in places which, according to Anna Minton in a recent article in the Guardian, are privatised enclaves “that look the same, are cut off from local people and the local environment and are characterised instead by a fake, theme park atmosphere”. She reports that there is a growing body of evidence that the replacement of independently owned shops isolates people and increases depression. “Having a thriving public life in cities does not depend on the types of shops, but on the approach to the place as a whole,” she argues.

    The French call the trend for a metropolis overrun by mobile-phone shops and fast food restaurants “la Londonisation” and have introduced regulations banning half of the 70,000 shops in Paris from ever becoming owned by such operations. The use of certain shops is safeguarded, so that a boulangerie remains a foodshop and a bookshop or greengrocer can’t be another multiple chain outlet. As other European capitals arrest a trend now proliferating around this country, the message is clear: don’t hollow out the heart of your city and keep it vibrant, otherwise watch its demise.

    © 2006 The Irish Times – August 12, 2006

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/newsfeatures/2006/0812/1155291279765.html

    in reply to: pearse street developments #744237
    Devin
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    The council had been asked in writing to list them about 3 years ago, but they weren’t adding any more buildings to their RPS at the time as (they said) they didn’t have the administration and they could only barely manage their existing RPS.

    they date from 1848

    Yeah, would’ve said they were 1840s. Even though the Georgian reign strictly ended in 1830, the houses are still Georgian in every way, just simplified. Fascinating!

    in reply to: Shopfront race to the bottom #776042
    Devin
    Participant

    This is it; where elsewhere an artisan deli opens, in Dublin a Spar opens. They say people get the cities they want, so maybe we have to look at ourselves. What do all these nasty convenience stores say about us?

    Convenience stores/newsagents don’t seem to exist as such on the continent. They’re a UK & Irish thing. Or if there is a newsagent it will be only that – newspapers and magazines. In Spain they have little tobacco & news shops.

    in reply to: Underneath Dublin? #716447
    Devin
    Participant

    Wow! Pretty hairy stuff there down in the Poddle. Vance annoyed me in his last series about historic Ireland driving around in an SUV and making sure it crept into every second frame, but fair play to him for going down there in the tunnels with that guy.

    This piece of wasteland shows what is now known as the Italian Quarter. When the site was being readied, I noticed the remains of a brick-arch tunnel running along at the base of the rear site boundary wall between Nos. 23 & 24 Lwr. Ormond Quay. This is roughly opposite the mouth of the Poddle, so maybe once was another underground river …

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