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- October 13, 2006 at 11:37 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768781
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Participant@Seanselon wrote:
BTW the altar rails were not removed but were shifted to the front of the church and are now just inside the entrance.
BTW can some one tell me the difference between removing something from its original position and shifting it?
October 1, 2006 at 12:51 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768696descamps
ParticipantImagine P.Jones having visions. What will we have next?
September 3, 2006 at 7:54 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768477descamps
Participant@Sirius wrote:
Let us pray that Bishop Adrian of Cobh and the Elders of FOSCC will reflect on todays Gospel (Mark 7):
‘It was of you hypocrites that Isaiah so rightly prophesied in this passage of scripture: This people honours me only with lip-service, while their hearts are far from me. The worship they offer me is worthless, the doctrines they teach are only human (planning) regulations. You put aside the commandment of God to cling to human(architectural) traditions.’
Let’s not tempt fate on the Bishop Adrian bit. Bishop John is just back from his holidays in America suffering from phlebitis and an osteo-arthritic knee.
August 25, 2006 at 2:35 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768388descamps
ParticipantGosh. That bird looks about as benign as Praxiteles.
June 18, 2006 at 10:41 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768091descamps
ParticipantOswald looks as though he has strayed from a set for King Lear. He should be careful to be back for his part in Act II, scene 2, especially around lines 355-360. If not back, what will poor Edgar do in Act IV, scene 6, circa line 250?
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ParticipantSurely, all hate campaigns are unwarrented!!
The_Chris is just a little too partisan in all of this business and would be well to look at matters with a more steely eye – otherwise we will soon have a new saint in the heavens.
December 3, 2005 at 4:32 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #767503descamps
ParticipantReply 286 tells us that Ken Thompson is responsible for the Altar, ambo and president’s chair in St. Mary’s Oratory, Maynooth. Those of use who know him well realize that he has a quirky sense of humour. Are they sure in Maynooth that he is not in some way taking the mick with that awful chairback so evidently modelled on a mitre? Wood is not is his best medium. He is stupendous in stone. The Paschal chamber stick in the Honan Chapel was not KT at his best.
November 27, 2005 at 11:55 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #767443descamps
ParticipantThe problem with the Bishop of Cloyne, despite having spent nearly thirty years in Rome, is that he knows relatively little about art or architecture and is dependent on advisers who know even less. The project for the sanctuary of Cobh Cathedral is primarily the brain (!) child of one Denis Reidy, the Parish Priest of Carrigtwohill. He believes that he is reproducing in Cobh a solution that was adopted in the much vaster Cathedral of Milan and expects to have the plaudits of the plebs for this before he shuffels off his eccelsiastical coil in a few years time. When the Cobh project was first mooted, an advisory committee was formed basically of a few nuns and few of he more pliable members of the parish. What they knew about the building or its importance is debatable but they recommended a plan put before them by the good Reidy and catagorically excluded a number of less radical alternatives. When the ridiculousness of this was exposed in the letters page of the Irish Independent (23 December 1999) the project was temporarily shelved. A new advisory committee was formed, this time of several prominent artists, and charged with the task of advising Bishop Magee on what to do. Several of the artists, however, disagreed with the ethos of the advisory committee and resigned (among them Imogen Stuart and Ken Thompson). Eventually, a recommendation was made to Bishop Magee not so surprisingly recommending something very like the previous project. An art advisory committee unanimously accepted the proposal as did the Historic Churches Advisory Committe of the diocese of Cloyne. In their courtly rush to faun, neither of these bodies thought of asking to have a heritage impact study conducted on the impact of the proposed plan on the historic interior of the building. Another committee was formed to choose an architect to execute the plan and, not at all surprisingly, the architect chosen was Professor Cathal O’Neill. His appointment was recommended by the art and architecture committee of the diocese and by yet another body, the Cathedral Restoration Committee. With such a quiverfull of committees and experts, the poor advice-needy Bishop had no option but to go along with the Milan solution of D. Reidy. In all of this, no notice was taken of the common plebs of Cobh who would only be called upon to pay for the exercise.
November 20, 2005 at 7:11 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #767343descamps
ParticipantAll you theorists should take a good look at the http://www.sacredarchitecture.org/pubs/saj/books/index.php
November 13, 2005 at 12:28 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #767273descamps
ParticipantA recent picture of the chancel in St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh.
November 5, 2005 at 2:12 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #767240descamps
ParticipantI was in Cork last week and went out to see the cathedral in Cobh. It is truly spectacular and it is a small miracle that it has survived for so long without the kind of ravages practiced on Killarney by Eamonn Casey or on Monaghan by Joe Duffy. Looking over the plans for this fine little gem, I cannot help but think that John Magee and Tom Cavanagh (aka Mr. Tidy towns of Ireland) have more money than sense – or good taste.
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