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ParticipantEven more creepy is that roads in the USA seem to e constructed to a much higher standard, at least in terms of road surface. Despite the incredible temperature variations motorway road surfaces are in general far more long lasting, with less potholes, visible damage from trucks etc. Yet the specs are not, apparently, wildly different.
Here our relatively recent motorways are often in poor shape.
Another Irish scandal?????
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ParticipantSurely the new port tunnel will free up the Quays for strollers, har , har.
Just think of the potential if we “drained the Liffey”, enough land for affordable housing and everything.
Sorry, finding reality difficult after too many meetings.
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Participantalso in there
Honan Chapel, Cork
Government Buildings, Merrion Street
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ParticipantAll of this reminds me to ask what is happening to the plans for RDH near neighbours on O’Connell St, – Carlton, the long derelict site, Millenium Mall, Corpo purchase etc.
Story has gone very dead recently, are we awaiting further Court action?
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Participant“as unbelievable as it may sound, Ireland had a rail system the envy of the Western World…. It was possible to travel to the remotest parts of Ireland by train, and you could do so from Cork to Donegal, Dungarvan to Westport, with no stop in Dublin”
And they did, mostly going to Cobh (Queenstown) or Dun Laoire (Kingstown) on one way tickets and never coming back.
Sadly many Irish routes were already unviable before WWI and the revolution in motor transport encouraged by that war took much freight first to lorries, passengers to cars (and also motor buses), often giving more direct and cheaper journeys than the railways, which were built with regard to topography and local pressures rather than service considerations.
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Participant“That programme on the Pillar and the Spike last night was fascinating”
It was indeed, – how much has changed since 1966 on O’Connell St esp the Parnell St end. Another one that would have been there then was Findlaters.
By the way where else in Europe would you find long term empty sites, such as on O’Connell St and Parnell Sq?
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Participant“In Brussels they built an underground link between their two main stations (North and South). All tains that go through Brussels now go through both of those stations AND the newer Central station. This means that for people coming into the city from other towns and cities (ie not residents/commuters) they don’t need to get onto the metro/tram system because they simply choose the appropriate mainline station”
True, the convential rail rink through Brussels was one of the longest running projects in Belgium, delayed both by the first and second world wars, – rather better excuses than we could produce. Indeed, although the rail link is now there for many years, it was only in the late 1980’s that some of the derelict sites, cleared to allow the works to go ahead were redeveloped.
As for the reason why the railway originally stopped at Kingsbridge, two reasons, Guinness owned the land on the South Bank and there was an inconvenient Army Barracks on the North Bank.
There still was, very likely, little interchange of passengers with other rail routes from Dublin until recently. The big change being the building of the Dart and the development of commuter services on the Belfast route.
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ParticipantJust amazing how little we see, the way these vanish.
Seriously strange to go Victorian now, recreating the worst, most miserable period in Dublin life. Then probably the Corpo get their design influences from pub design, formica in, formica out, victorian in, out, bleached wood in
Perhaps it is like planting conifers and whacking out the broadleaf trees.
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ParticipantHeathrow, which now has two separate rail and tube links still only manages a combined rail / tube user share of arriving passengers of barely above 20%!
“To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what percentage of
journeys made to (a) Gatwick, (b) Heathrow, (c) Stansted and (d) Luton airports
were made by (i) train, (ii) bus and (iii) other road vehicles in the latest
year for which figures are available. [80846]Mr. Jamieson: In 2001, the percentage of journeys made by train to Gatwick was
21.2 per cent. (9 per cent. bus/coach and 69.8 per cent. other road vehicles ).
For Heathrow, the corresponding proportions were 21.5 per cent. train ( ie rail
and tube), 13.1 per cent. bus/coach, and 65.4 per cent. other road vehicles. At
Stansted, the proportions were : 27.3 per cent. train, 7.6 per cent. bus/coach,
and 65.1 per cent. other road vehicles. The proportions recorded at Luton are
26.1 per cent. bus/coach and 73.9 per cent. other road vehicles.”Suprisingly low figures for such well developed and fairly well integrated rail / tube links.
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ParticipantAny chance TCD would do a steam clean or pressure wash on Westland Row / Pearse Street? – about as likely as Paul getting an honorary degree for this site, I am afraid
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ParticipantThe Durham test case is only a tiny area, in the very centre near the cathederal and castle.
The London test, when we we see it properly with the schools back next week, is much more mbitious.
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ParticipantTry Irish Railway Records Society who may have info, photos.
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ParticipantRecent photo at
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ParticipantMy sugestion is sell off the Abbey brick by brick, like London Bridge, to somewhere in America, like Las Vegas or Atlantic City. Move the Abbey Company over there too, save the Americans the trouble of trying to squeeze into Lr Abbey Street. Free up the site for another new bridge across the Liffey.
Start with a new theatre on a greenfield site, without the intellectual baggage and faded reputation of the Abbey. Indeed a good ready cash bid might get the RSC to take on a residency.
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ParticipantAre they not all in Dublin Castle at “Tribunal Quarter” these days?
Attracting more lawyers?
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Participant“the equivalent of Charlie McCreevy asking Santa to bring him a budget surplus for Christmas”
Santa did by the way.
It was indeed a strange piece, there is a huge disconnect between stated wishes and likely reality in Dublin. Particularly relevant if you were experiencing a 1hr / 2 mile bus journey home at the same time, due to 1. traffic and 2 poor setting of traffic lights and 3 arbitrary road engineering to ensure no lane runs anywhere for very long.
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ParticipantRe Archers Garage
As promised
“but at the latest by 1st September, 1999.”Any signs of this date arriving?
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ParticipantShould’nt have joked about the blue screen of death – system froze up with the maps.
Managed to get them running – sort of
And why is Acrobat v4 used? v5 is around a long time now.
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ParticipantThanks. Now managed to get South Dublin also. Who has them all for sale in downtown Dublin?
Dont like the idea of
– half the volume being in Irish, Carlow volume is only 68 pages in English (x2).
– database software, not run yet, is not properly described, is it propretary software or what?. Call me old fashioned but I like to know this before I stick it up.
– the CD packaging, as you say not very lasting and easily damaged. Already damaged in some copies not yet sold.
– plastic sleeve, once open does not reseal.Do like
– the quality of the photo printing
– the price, even if it would be cheaper if all in englishAbout to try the CD’s
Do I feel lucky? Blue screen of death coming on?dc3
ParticipantHow many are out?
I just got the Carlow one today
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