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Tallest on the Island indeed quite easily. Maybe the developers are not prepared to splash out cash on some spectacular design. It has to be said though its a big improvement on the last plan which looked terrible.
I would not rush to criticise it simply because those renders are poor in quality. Some computer generated images of it against the skyline would be helpful. Actually it may not look to bad at all if the glazing looks nice.
Also it may look small there but against the surrounding skyline even a 120m building will look big indeed.
Maybe its just me but I dont really like the cage type structure at the top. The garden idea looks fine IMO. At least the building is bulkier as well.
I never said any paricular groups were critiscising plans for Grand Canal Docks. Mostly local objectors pointing out an impact on Georgian Dublin to Bord Pleanala even for rediculously small buildings like the Malt House. I remember the objections to that. Comical in fact. It could hardly be called ‘highrise’! Also remember Treasury’s original plan for Spencer Dock? The one good thing is that BP did not throw it out on the basis of Georgian Dublin being cited as vulnerable by an 80 metre construction on the North side of the Liffey! NIMBYism is as strong as it ever was in Dublin and people will point to anything to get something stopped.
RE: Heritage Groups. If I am completely honest I think heritage groups in Dublin are against high rise full stop, the vast majority of them anyway.
Anyway back on topic, I agree nothing inspiring here with the new plan:(
TBH, In my view, there is no such thing as a ‘gateway’. I think the planners, when they want tall buildings, just mention that concept to appease the inevitable objectors. I dont think the DDDA really believe that once these buildings are built it is going to give some dramatic maritime gateway to Dublin. Thats just seems rediculous. Rather I think they will try to present these buildings as a stepping stone to higher buildings down the line at other points toward the docks. I think once the 100m barrier is broken alot of people will get over this nonsense about Georgian Dublin being destroyed by a couple of tall buildings. These buildings wont even be visible from Georgian Dublin and yet thats one of the objections going around against tall buildings in the Grand Canal Docks area.
@Peter FitzPatrick wrote:
an improvement i suppose but nothing special, looks quite familiar really …
this ‘gateway’ idea is a little basic, oh i know lets put a big high rise on this side & better still one to match on this side ! i have visions of driveway pillars with cast concrete eagles…
there needs to be some scaling up around both & preferably not exactly symmetrical DDDA ! otherwise its just gonna look like two big dicks :rolleyes:
Could the Heuston Gate tower look any more basic? Nothing inspiring about that at all. As for PV, its better then Heuston Gate, but the idea does indeed look very similar. Also I find the lack of glass in HG a little disturbing – Hawkins House round 2? Neither tower though is a patch on the proposed U2 tower.
Better then previously in my view but is it good enough?:)
http://www.pointvillage.ie/overview.html
Is it just me or does this look taller then 120m?
Looks like the equivilent of 40 storeys high IF you take into account the Gardens on top. I am definatley not a fan of that cage like structure on top. I hope they are not implying they are going to tinge the windows green!:(
Its still hard to picture this on the skyline though without better renders. Otherwise I think we should be happy the other plan was dropped. Still looks rather bland despite the improvement. So 3rd attempt and still nothing great.
This whole project (U2 tower) is at serious risk now not just because of architectural deficencies (which are denied by DDDA in the Irish Times today) but because the housing boom is over. Thats the biggest threat to this tower tbh.
@cokedrinker wrote:
I read on the AJPlus website that the designs for U2 tower may be scrapped, and that a couple of british architects (one being Foster) are working on a new scheme. Can anybody shed some more light on this? Is it alright to quote the full aj article here?
TBH I always thought the twisting design would not look right at just 130m. I think it would need to be taller. I do hope that article is wrong though because we dont want any more delays with this really.
@alonso wrote:
What’s a world class place to live in if it is devoid of character, history and it’s people, wholly populated by a transient, single class?
I see nothing appealing about the flats in Ringsend at all. Sometimes its better to call a spade a spade. It is not an area the vast majority of Dubliners would consider visiting for very obvious reasons. No I would rather it did not remain like that. Demolish the whole lot and start again.
Whilst it is bad to say it I have to say that the view to Ringsend is not inspiring at all and detracts completely from what is trying to be done in the Docklands area. Buy the people out and demolish the whole lot IMO. This is where a world class quarter really should be in Dublin and would provide scope for skyscrapers and the like. Like I say its not nice to say but its true.
At 26m’s wide this buildng will look like a match stick. The dimensions dont seem to fit. How are they going to twist it with such a narrow width and within 130m’s by 45 degree’s? I dont believe thats even practical. Expect larger and taller structure IMHO higher then 150m’s. Could an architect comment on this?:rolleyes:
The website has been updated today:
Looks like its on.
BTW 120m s hardly a ‘skyscraper’.
1st Question – Is this tower now under construction as we speak?
2nd – How can you fit 35 storeys into 120m? That sounds a little tight to me:confused:
3rd – Whats with the architecture of that proposed tower….looks really bland or something.
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€800m Point complex to cater for the high life
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IT’S being billed as the ultimate in Celtic Tiger luxury high-rise living and entertainment and the response to Irelands’s coastal “wealth belt”.
A 15,000-seater Roman-style amphitheatre and a 120 metre-high apartment skyscraper soaring more than 35 storeys are included in an €800m redevelopment of Dublin’s Point Theatre area approved yesterday.
The massive development will see the audience capacity of the Point almost doubled from its current 8,000 limit.
The new-look Point will have the biggest stages in Europe.
There will also be a second Vicar St music venue on the site, twice the size of the current premises also owned by Point owner Harry Crosbie.
For those fond of high living a signature apartment building to be known as ‘The Watchtower’ will soar 120 metres above the capital.
The 35-storey high skyscraper will be one of tallest ever to accommodate homes and will be as high as The Spire on nearby O’Connell St.
Homeowners will be able to enjoy a drink and meal in the rooftop bar and restaurant on the skyscraper.
The Watchtower will house 300 apartments with a starting price of €500,000, Mr Crosbie said yesterday.
An exterior rooftop bar and restaurant will have unrivalled panoramic views over Dublin Bay.
It will be serviced by glass-sided elevators which will run outside the building.
The landmark project will create 2,000 permanent jobs.
Work began yesterday as soon as permission was granted and is due to be finished in just 14 months.😮 The Point Village plan approved by the Dublin Docklands Development Authority includes a 23,000 sqm shopping centre, hotel, car park and 12 cinema complex.
It will cover a 12-acre site surrounding the Point Theatre on the north docks.
Mr Crosbie said they were already in in negotiation with anchor tenants as well as a number of hotel chains and were planning to start signing contracts with a host of retail chains over the coming months.
“The Point Village is an opportunity that will never come again – a combination of residential and entertainment schemes, a ready catchment area of professionals and attractions that will attract a footfall of millions each year,” he added.
Paul Maloney, DDDA chief executive , said it had always been envisaged that The Point Village would provide key retail services to the entire Docklands area.
He predicted the project would draw significant numbers of visitors to the area from across Dublin and Ireland as well as internationally.
The site will be serviced by six Quality Bus Corridors, the planned Luas line to the Point, and the proposed Macken St Bridge by Calatrava across the Liffey.
A three-floor underground car park will have a capacity for 1,200 vehicles.
Treacy Hogan
There is video of the new terminal:
Here http://www.dublinairportauthority.co…artures_pt1.rm
Here http://www.dublinairportauthority.co…artures_pt2.rm
and Here http://www.dublinairportauthority.co…rrivals_web.rm
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@Maskhadov wrote:
its all a bit low rise and uninspiring isnt it 🙁
Thats just one of those Mickey Mouse drawings. Its scale is bigger then that. Also incidentally the tower drawn there dosnt look like the other images ive seen.:rolleyes: For a 30 storey tower it would have to be of decent scale. Nothing compared to the 50 storey tower seeking permission around the digital hub though:D
Not sure whether its been posted before. Came across this website: http://www.pointvillage.ie
‘Ground clearence underway’
The tower has received planning permission according to the DDDA website. Looks like construction is about to begin. Id imagine it will be finished well before the U2 tower.
P.S sry if its been posted already.
Fair play to Limerick. If they go ahead with that proposal for the docks it will have a more interesting skyline then Dublin.:cool:
@paul h wrote:
Darkman if people enjoy using the boardwalk (not the addicts etc of course)
then i dont think think it was a mistake
If they actually enforced the laws and prosecuted (harshly) the people involved, and are seen to be doing it, then troublemakers may think twice.
If people were afraid to cross the gardai it might instill some civic pride!
Here – would-be criminals fear the NYPD, and rightly soTrue. I think the gardai are dis-interested and tbh youd want them armed to command such respect and unfortunatley I and many others wouldnt trust an armed police force because the gardai as it is are corrupt (not all of them of course).
It just really annoys me as a taxpayer (thats not the government’s money, thats my money and your money) to see money spent on these projects and then these toe rags come along and ruin it. The board walk is not safe. Especially at night but I no longer walk it during the day either. The junkies are all over it!:mad:
