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@notjim wrote:
I think it is a shocking failure on the part of the DDDA that they have made no attempt to develop culturally appropriate urban accommodation for travellers
I dont.
Cant say im supprised but how do you know? It was supposed to be revealved last week who won the tender,
One of the lift shafts went up another floor this afternoon. Having driven past the site the gap between the point and the district center is quite small now. Had me thinking surely one of those lift shafts is the tower!? Anyway the one that went up today actually makes that shaft look a little tall for a shopping center but maybe thats just the nature of the build ing – i dont know……..
@hutton wrote:
Yeah hang them, dirty bastards 😡
Well I would not go that far but certainly a harsher punishment would be desirable;)
IMO ANYONE who blocks contractors physically trying to do their jobs on the site should be arrested. None of these people have any right to interfer in such a manner in a scheme that has the support of the majority of people and was given the go ahead by those charged on behave of the people to give their backing to such projects or not – in this case Bord Pleanala.
35 storeys high the tower will be. It says it will be 120m however I suspect that it may well be a little higher.
@Vincent Salafia wrote:
That may or may not be so in Irish law, but Due Process, in European law, however, requires public consultation, independent assessment and an opportunity to review the decision. There was no public consultation or independent assessment and no opportunity exists to have the decision reviewed, except in the courts. The majority of the public are against the route, independnet reports show the NRA has dumbed down the significance of the site, and the EU is already reviewing the situation. The Irish Government have until Sept 2 to repsond to the Reasoned Opinion sent by the Commission, in which it states that an EIA should have been performed before the decision to demolish the site was made. The Opinion also condemns the NDP 2007-2013, which is what the M3 is now being built under, for lack of public consultation and environmental impact assessment. Now that’s a war worth watching.
I think you should all end your ‘protests’. It was you and your group that was too slow off the mark with the M3 in the beginning. The project went through the planning process intact. Where were you and your group before this motorway was planned? Id really like to know because as I stated earlier I was a very regular visitor to Tara and nobody gave a toss about it then. Seems to me you have a more widespread anti motorway agenda put simply. You lost. Get over it.
Drove past today, alot of activity there now, and the second lift shaft has a tower crane being built next to it…..;)
Looks like there is another shaft going up further down toward the point.
Dunnes Strores to anchor shopping center:
You would probrably realise the significance when the lift shaft reaches a certain height. I think its great news:) (assuming of course it is the tower which were not 100% sure but anyway…). It could be the building to the right of the tower – the shopping center? http://www.mcnamaraconstruction.com/experience/projects.asp?id=108&proj_section=2
The plans suggest it is the tower! Irelands first 35 storey has started!?:D :rolleyes: 🙂
Lets hope its better then the renders 😀
FYI ive no connection whatsoever with FF or the Galway races. Your reasoning does little to back up your condemnation of my posts on this topic. However the important thing is ‘you and your ilk’ are being ignored in favour of progress which I support.
@alonso wrote:
I would move on but sadly the well connected landowners of Meath have dictated that the train line to Navan would be postponed indefinitely. Talk about infrastructure deficit? no need to look at roads. Line BX, Metro North Metro West, Bray LUAS, QBCs. new buses, T2, Citywest LUAS, etc etc
Yes and all are progressing as far as im aware. I take a very dim view of wasting tax payers money – my money, your money. However when roads and other projects are held up every day that costs us (the tax payers) in one form or another. I am not unsymphatetic to heritage or the environment but the time to argue against the M3 was when the plan first appeared 7 or 8 years ago now. That did not happen. It went through the planning process pretty much unchallenged. Thats democracy. So the protestors should stop wasting our time and money and accept that they were too late off the mark with this. Any Carrickmines or Glen of the Downs type nonsense is only going to really annoy the general public far from gaining them any support.
Also no one should claim corruption unless they have solid evidence to prove it. Its not fair on those in the NRA who are just doing their jobs. Whatever about county councillors – who I have VERY little time for but still please provide evidence before making accusations IMO.
alonso wrote:yep and sellafield is further away than that fiat uno with the dodgy exhaust in the car park, but I]Really? How is that? I have real concerns regarding the infrastructure deficit in this country. Our future is vital to that being rectified ASAP. That is far more important to me then this nonsense. Anywhere you build anything in Ireland your going to find rocks and bones from another age. Incidentally the argument of ‘corruption’ I find is the last sanctuary of those who have lost both the argument and the cause. There is no evidence whatsoever of corruption in the M3 case. Like I say the motorway is under construction. Its over. Why dont you just move on?
The route is chosen – the road is under construction. Its interesting that you and others come out protesting at the top of your voices only AFTER the planning process was complete. Also lets not mention no one gave a sh*te about the Hill of Tara before the M3 was planned. I know because I was a regular visitor there. End of story. The road is further away then the current N3. No sympathy.
Article in todays Sunday Times about the tower and saying how its become a complete farce. Also insinuating that U2 may be influencing whats going on with the tower:mad: What the hell does it have to do with them anyway?:mad: 😡 Original design likely to be dropped. Its thought U2 want a ‘star’ architect to win the tender at the expense of the original twisting design.
Drove past the site today. Definately construction work going on behind the Point. Looks like foundation works. Also confirmation that the tower will be 35 storeys high. http://www.crosbieproperty.ie/point2.html
There are a couple of small cranes beside the point – looks like enabling works to me. No pics. Getting information on the tower itself is like pulling teeth,
This is the best I can find and even it is out of date with the tower design.
http://www.savills.ie/images/commercial/10006333/_brochure.pdf
There is nothing on the Scott Tallon Walker site either.
If anyone else digs up anything else please post it!;)
Im also very confused at exactly what is suppose to be finished by 2009 – the shopping center, the tower, the point???????
