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Being Crosbie

Aug 9 2008

‘Acting the maggot with posters’ at the Point Village site is just one of the many ways Harry Crosbie continues to make his mark on Dublin’s docklands, writes GEMMA TIPTON

‘I’M NOT A normal guy,” rock music promoter, haulier and property developer Harry Crosbie tells me cheerfully when I arrive at his house. And with a vague promise of “coffee later”, and a large dose of energetic charm, he ushers me in. It’s a breathtaking place, a converted Georgian warehouse, right on the river. It’s no wonder that Michael Jackson, when he called in for tea, stayed for hours.

Once upon a time, before Dublin’s docklands became what it is, there were more warehouses, both Georgian and Victorian, that could have been similarly transformed into the most stunning places to live. Now they have been demolished, and glass and steel predominate. Slender stone façades are topped by the flimsy balconies of city apartments, and Crosbie’s home is an anachronism, but a very, very beautiful one.

It also flies in the face of his belief that the answer to Dublin’s problems (or one of them, at least) is density. It is density that will make the infrastructure work, that will make public transport make sense, that will provide urban shopping hubs. Density is, in fact, the key to his current development, Point Village. And Point Village is, he tells me with pride, “the biggest construction job in Ireland”. I can’t help wondering why that pride isn’t tinged with sheer fear. It can’t be a comfortable time to try and shift 350 apartments, plus find tenants for shops, cafes and restaurants.

But, Crosbie points out, it can’t just grind to a halt either: “this thing is too big to stop, it’s an €850 million job, and it can’t be turned on and off like a tap. We’re building a village,” he continues, “and we’re determined that that village will have its dry cleaners, shoe makers, its art gallery and artists’ studios, its own train station [ the Luas], and that being in our village will be the exact same as being in Sandymount village.”

There will be a number of key differences, however. Sandymount does not have a massive music venue in its midst (“completely soundproof”, Crosbie promises), nor has Sandymount been designed by those maestros of cool-steel-and-glass-architecture, Scott Tallon and Walker. Equally, Sandymount was tenanted and occupied long before either Celtic Tiger or Economic Downturn were even twinkles in Ireland’s eye. “The market has flipped over,” Crosbie admits. “So the choice is very much in favour of the user now. It has become a buyers’ market. Whereas, a few years ago, we would have been forming an orderly queue of our tenants, now we will be much more civil to these people because there’s fewer of them, and we need them more than they need us.” This is also why Crosbie appreciates the decision of Dunnes Stores, and Margaret Heffernan in particular, to sign up as anchor tenant for the Village. “They’re putting in the biggest and best and sexiest Dunnes in the country,” he announces, delighted. “Margaret Heffernan is a great woman altogether.”

So too is Loretta Glucksman, according to Crosbie. Glucksman is the chairwoman of the American Ireland Fund, and of Crosbie’s Giant Man project, a 100ft tall (seated) figure of a man installed beside The Point. “I saw him in The Netherlands,” he says. “He sits, attached to a building, and you go up to the 10th floor, and you enter into his brain . . .” You then continue, down through the body, past the heart, the liver, the reproductive organs, and out – presumably at the toes. Crosbie is partnering the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland and the medical faculty at Trinity in the project. “It’s a big thing,” he says, in what is probably the only understatement of our meeting. Rising behind the Giant Man will be Ireland’s first skyscraper. Forty storeys tall, and topped by a five-storey structure of stained glass windows by British artist Brian Clarke. This will house a brasserie and a viewing deck, and at night will light up the sky.

Meanwhile, the Point, now renamed The O2, is having a complete make-over, and is being transformed into a 15,000 seat auditorium, with “the biggest proscenium arch in the world. People will be stunned.” And what about the smaller Daniel Libeskind-designed theatre a couple of blocks down? “I own that as well,” says Crosbie calmly. “And I’m also the chairman of Spencer Dock across the road,” he adds, evidently enjoying himself.

The economic downturn with its accompanying headaches isn’t too much of a worry, then? “We had this project banked many years ago, and we hadn’t any big borrowings when we started. The way we do banking is conservative – while we might take risks and act the maggot with posters, with money we’re very conservative.” The posters Crosbie is referring to are what got me talking to him in the first place. He has replaced the “coming shortly” board that, for years, let Ireland know when Westlife or Boyzone’s next visit would be, with a changing set of posters. These are, in his own words “puzzling, mildly amusing, and sometimes annoying”, and with them he has managed to create an advertising enigma not seen since Big Ed Loves Mona.

“But they’re not ads,” he is quick to point out. Instead, “because it’s such a huge job, and because I spent the best part of my life setting it up, I thought I’m going to have a bit of fun with this.” The posters have included advance notice that Pope Benedict is coming soon, that Gerry Ryan is to open a chip shop (named Cod Piece), and that Gay Byrne will be the first Village mayor. “It’s completely me,” says Crosbie. “It’s nobody else, and I just put up whatever I fancy.” This leads him to muse on what it would be like if all the ad agencies agreed two weeks in the year when every billboard would be similarly non-commercial, and given over to anything funny, quixotic or puzzling instead. “Give ads a holiday,” he suggests.

Fun, more than money, is important to him. Things have to be commercial, he insists, but “once you get to a certain point you realise that there’s only so much that money can do for you. People who don’t have money find it very difficult to understand this. But in fact you quickly reach a point where God gets his own back, where he makes everything ordinary by repetition. Because we deal with rich pop stars, we come across this all the time, we call it ‘the ho hum factor’. It’s when they’re on the private jet and they’re saying ‘are you telling me this is a Gulf Stream Four and not a Five?’.”

Crosbie’s position, where he can create an entire new city quarter (although not without planning controversies, and some applications refused along the way), and also have fun with idiosyncratic posters, is, he tells me, hard won. “It’s hard, relentless graft,” he says. “And I haven’t taken the money and run. I could be swanning around a beach in the Bahamas with Russian chicks if I wanted to, but I don’t want that.” He’s also adamant that, whatever the economic climate, he’s staying put.

“I only operate within the docks. I don’t know anywhere else. And it amuses me to hear of people, who know nothing about property, buying things in Bulgaria. I wouldn’t buy something in Donnybrook, because I don’t know how Donnybrook works, and I’ve been doing this for 30 years. I work in streets where I’ve been working since I was 16 years old. The idea of ordinary people saying they’ve bought holiday flats in Bulgaria, that is definitely going to end in tears.”

So what about those developers who don’t like the look of post-Celtic Tiger Ireland and have, indeed, taken the money and run? “I think they’re sad men. They don’t understand that money is only a tiny part of what it takes to be content. You only get out what you put in. And in the end, money on the level we operate is only a scorekeeping mechanism. It’s not for spending. Capital and money are different things.”

I never get my promised coffee because Crosbie is on to the next thing. “I have a ferocious work ethic,” he says, “and confidence to the point of mania. My wife has to hit me with a rolled-up newspaper to stop me. But that’s not a bad thing.”

• O2 (The Point) is scheduled to reopen in December, possibly with Leonard Cohen. Point Village will be released in phases from 2009.

© 2008 The Irish Times

The guy seems pretty cocky and arrogant and convinced his entire project, tower and all, is going ahead come hell or high water:confused:

I hope they give the whole lot the go ahead. Its about time the Northern End of O’Connell St got a development of high qaulity – which this appears to be. It wold transform O’Connell St and rid that area of its general grittiness and unpleasentness.

By the way who owns that small Londis shop on this part of O’Connell St? Ive harsh words for that place but I will keep it to myself:mad:

Negotiations put U2 Tower in jeopardy
03 August 2008 By Gavin Daly
The future of the planned U2 Tower in Dublin is uncertain, with negotiations ongoing between the backers of the €200 million project and the Dublin Docklands Development Authority (DDDA).

Geranger, a consortium made up of U2, Ballymore Properties, property developer Paddy McKillen, and architect Norman Foster, was named preferred bidder for the project last October. Paul Maloney, chief executive of the DDDA, said last month that he expected an agreement by the end of July, but no deal has yet been reached on the 130-metre tower.

‘‘Given current market conditions, the DDDA and Geranger Ltd have agreed to extend the negotiation period to allow for further analysis and for design issues relating to the Dodder bridge,” a spokeswoman for the DDDA said last Friday.

The DDDA has refused to comment on the timescale for the negotiations, which focus on financial, legal and technical aspects of the project.

The property market has suffered a dramatic slump since Geranger submitted its proposal for the tower, which would be topped with a pod-shaped recording studio for U2. In its annual report, published last month, the DDDA said the U2 Tower was due to be completed in 2011.

The Watchtower, the 120-metre tower that is part of Harry Crosbie’s Point Village development, is under construction, although architectural sources said that its design had been changed to allocate more floor space to offices rather than apartments.

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@Peter Fitz wrote:

So the Red Cow Interchange nears completion & the new ‘gateway’ bridge is under construction, does anybody know which one we’re actually getting ?

This –

or the more modest curved job at the top of the montage below …

SDCC dropped the plans for the ‘new’ bridge and are currently building the original proposal. I have to say I think it was the right decision – the more elaborate bridge would have looked a little daft IMO.

Herald.ie

CITY SKYSCRAPER HEADING UP

By -Andrew Phelan

Friday July 11 2008

THE property market may be collapsing but work on raising Ireland’s first residential skyscraper has got underway.

Businessman Harry Crosbie is pressing ahead with his ambitious 32 -storey “Watchtower”, which is beginning to emerge from its foundations at the Point Depot.

Construction of the 120-metre tower is expected to take two years.

When complete, it will be one of the centrepieces of the €850 million Point Village scheme, which includes the all-new, renamed O2 Arena.

The skyscraper tower will be made up mainly of luxury apartments, with some office space, restaurants, bars and a public viewing platform on the top floor.

The tower will be topped with a 10,000 square foot brasserie and bar along with a viewing deck all serviced by bullet lifts running up the outside of the building.

With progress on the proposed U2 Tower on the other side of the Liffey stalled, Crosbie’s landmark building will be the first highrise development to make its mark on the docklands skyline.

– -Andrew Phelan

2 Years?

@Overworked wrote:

I can confirm that the tower is definitly under construction. they are still below ground (3 stories in total), but it is possible that they may stop at ground level due to the current economic climate.

I would not be supprised. Did it look like they were working on it?

@Morlan wrote:

Yes, great and all, that Ireland is building its first tower. But need I remind you what it looks like?

It’s pretty horrendous.. top heavy, bland.. etc.

And we can’t rule out that the tower will be halved in height, or scrapped altogether, due to the recession, regardless of how high the lift shaft is.

Morlan ffs keep up with the times man! Thats no longer the design! Seriously a better design was chosen and like it or not this will be the only skyscraper of the Celtic Tiger era so you would be best served getting behind it and not posting images of what wont be built.

On the shafts – Crosbie seems an ambitous guy but if I were him I would not go ahead with a residential tower atm. The property market is in freefall. However if Crosbie has the balls (and I hope he does) to go ahead with it then fair play. At least he has a vision and guts.

The tower is to be completed in 2009 – they would want to have started!

Is th metro not to be funded primarily through private finance? Seriously folks if we want to secure our economic future we need this sort of infrastructure which is considered basic in most countries outside of sub saharan Africa.

Thanks for he pics! Seems to be coming along nicely. There are plenty of pics on the website aswell

http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/photocategory.asp?PCID=34&NCID=68

AMSE Wins Contract for Point Village Watchtower

31/3/08

AMSE has secured the structural steelwork contract for the Point Village Watchtower, which will be the signature building in an €800 million development on the North side of Dublin Quays.

The Watchtower will rise over 120 metres over the Quays and will include luxury apartments, office space, a mini TV and radio studio and rooftop bar and restaurant with panoramic views over Dublin Bay and the City.

AMSE will fabricate 2500 tonnes of steel for the project, which will be erected on site by our specialist erection crews in 50 weeks. The expected completion date for the project is 2009.

AMSE is delighted to once again be working with Main Contractors McNamara Construction, Structural Engineers O’Connor Sutton Cronin and Architects Scott Tallon Walker.

http://www.amse.ie/Point_Watchtower.htm

http://www.kone.com/en_TH/main/0,,print=true&content=69160,00.html