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great thanks ….
it was the name change that made it difficult to find
yea the interior image does not really inspire…
yea i found all of those when i googled it ..
wondering if the interior is actually in use or not?
what functions occupy it if it is in use?
it was in yesterdays independent ……. I figure it might be a while before the competition is launched though…..
Fair enough JDP people have the right to expect all of the above, a House (even though Ireland is one of the few countries that does not have this right enshrined in its constitution) water, and electricity.
However it is now 2005 and you would expect that standards might strech be a little further than the basics. I am talking about the social and cultural benifits associated with urban living. A choice of schools, librarys, museums, civic spaces that act as meeting points and centre of the community eg markets, event spaces, shopping, entertainment and leisure facilities such as cinemas and good year round sports facilities. Social spaces bars nightclubs, performance arts venues and a choice of restaurants. The choice to walk, cycle or drive or use public transport to the above and to your workplace so they are accessible to all. Daycare facilities for your children, playgrounds and parks, easy access to healthcare facilities and a university or IT …..start-up buisness spaces ……..a small town will not be able to provide all of the above but it should provide some and a good transport link to the rest.
When towns and cities start to provide the above in a coherent and civic manner then peoples perceptions about urban life will soon start to change.
You would think that Ireland as a country that has developed so late that we would look to the mistakes of others and try a different approach ……..however we seem to be making a real mess of it all by ourselves.
Do we not have enough of them meddling Brussells bureaucrats as it is. Why should we listen to them that has already concreted all over their own places?
Quaint green little Ireland won’t put food on the table.
JDP do you think that this legislation is going to prevent Ireland from becoming concreted over?
You keep speaking as if the only alternative to rural housing is living in cities ?
There are thousands of small towns across Ireland that can accommodate this type of growth and the social and cultural advantages of living in towns proximity to neighbours, schools and services and transport far outweigh the benifits of car dependant sub-suburbanisation of rural Ireland.
I do agree however that people at the moment will want to build in the countryside and should not be ‘forced’ into towns and cities ….at the moment there are no real alternatives……….If proper neighbourhoods are built in these towns rather than developer estates then they should have the power to attract people.
If we take the example of the Fingal County Offices (not sure if it was the first) as a piece of architecture that started a wave of competitions and commissions for new county offices around the country. People saw the benifits of good design.
We need to take this example and apply it in the design of a new neighbouroods or a complete new town/city then people can see the benifits of such, and it may just rescue rural ireland. Is any local authority or planning department in Ireland willing to do such a thing…..ie create an urban design (rather than a 5 year development plan) for its area looking foward to 2030 or 2050 then bring the developers in as partners in the realisation of this urban plan.
This is the only way to realise sustainable urban development and provide a real alternative to one off housing.
If you listen to the pat kenny show ….from yesterday……….bizarre ……..the article before Roche was on speaks about how the numbers of ‘ramblers’ people who come to Ireland to enjoy hill walking etc. as tourists has declined dramatically over the last 5 years………..then the speak about the new leglisation ………..and the destruction of the countryside ….somehow they fail completely to draw a link between the two……
If this policy was enforced correctly……Then architects should be overjoyed with a policy such as this…….essentially it gives the space for total freedom of design ……you could imagine Ireland becoming a world centre for experimental architecture ……..
Sorry was dreaming for a moment …..the above will not happen unfortunatley ….I fear quiet the opposite in fact………but could Roche at least in return for this farce get some other leglisation passed that might ensure that design is given a priority ….
if there was a proper design comission formed to oversee building in the countryside …..if the title of architect was recognised officially………..if we had a real national spatial strategy ………..if planners were given design training and each authority had its own design department …….
there are lots and lots of good and better ideas out there about how and where to build ………..we should be providing examples of quality alternatives to one -off housing……….why would you want to live in an new developer designed estate when you can build in the countryside ……….
If we had a europan site ……it might be a start ………
how come there wasnt the same amount of outrage when the 20% social housing scheme was scrapped?????…
To keep both sides happy …….
you could read Hugh Campbells postgraduate study in UCD on the influence of nationalism on Dublin’s architecture and fabric……..its charts the development of the city from 1830/50 upwards to the time of joyce ……if I remember correctly…
Havent been here in a while ……..have to say the spike is a great addition to dublin and much needed……
but I dont think they should ever let it be completed just keep building it ….
the futurists said that the construction process was the most exciting part of a buildings/projects life ………the spike with its delays etc is certainly creating this excitement…………….let it go on and on……….
There are already as many mistakes in Galway and the city is starting to suffer now from them; traffic, housing, poor social infrastructure etc.
This plan seems valid, it can be a good starting point for the future but without good substantial investment in rail and road networks; with emphasis on the rail services and densities at the nodes it will just turn the country into a large suburban traffic jam……I have to agree with ro_G,
Ballymun simply put was the creation and neglect of a low income ghetto by dublin corp, the above views of these ‘types’ of people etc. shows the thinking that lead to the creation of these estates throughout Dublin.
The solution lies in greater social integration throughout the city, which has started in the 20% for social housing scheme, which I now think is due to be scrapped……. would I be right in this……..?Part of the NEIC area plan I think the schools from the area summerhill are to be relocated here…..was the site for my thesis good location in the city
