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Recent quote I heard (not on planning), “it’s accepted worldwide… and in some parts of Kerry!”.
Think that describes the situation there.
MP is shaping up to be one of the ugliest shopping centres in the country. Those bright blue corrugated parts! When viewed from Rochestown… it ain’t pretty.
Is the loft building the actual “cornmarket” building of cornmarket st that extends all the way back to North Main St? (including that awful awful awful Coal Qy pub). For years I have thought that a perfect development opp. Can anyone confirm that a few years back Virgin Cinemas (RIP) wanted to put a cinema on that site but local authority told them where to go? Is there some dark secret about planning limitations for this site?
Jonny R? Really??? Someone lives there?!?
I thought it was some temple or something (there’s a sign in the vicinity for some funky sounding religion so I assumed it was for that).
Dan Boyle TD – is he a Green Party member? So… representation in this case is probably a fancier objection. Get in line with the rest of them!
Everyone gets so upset when the word “leakage” gets mentioned in relation to tunnels (remember when the Lee tunnel opened?). It’s actually normal for these things to leak – which is why pumps are installed. It’s impossible to build a perfect seal. I imagine it’s just some local politian is over-reacting to the “news” that the port tunnel will leak.
Water St isn’t due till 19th of this month (I think) – but it hardly matters as I’d be surprised if it’s not something ABP will be looking at due to certain parties southern branch.
Whats’ not even remotely amusing is that the lawyers for the objectors are considering YET ANOTHER appeal (see http://www.rte.ie). Is the High Court not good enough? Is it a case that people in this country are so arrogant that if the systems and processes we put in place do not give the outcomes we desire that we seek a series of injunctions until we get the outcome we want? At this point they could discover the remains of Brian Boru, a Roman city, King Arthur, and dinosaurs all at play there and I think the vast majority of the public wouldn’t care so long as the bloody M50 got finished.
Lack of public transport here is irrelevant as the taller element is purely for design purposes rather than density.
On what grounds was this appealed – please don’t say height was the reason. This isn’t next to some delicate georgian masterpiece.
Relative height (relative to other parts of the same development) as a design element should be encouraged. Other wise we are heading for more North Docklands blandness. In the absence of new churces to punctuate the skyline, we need something to excite the eye!!!Lexington – it was a given even before it was announced that Water St would be brought to ABP by certain obsessed unbalanced people.
There no doubt, some horribly watered down version of the project will get put through – and miss the greatest opportunity to get the docklands off to a positive note. The submission to ABP has probably already been prepared, you know something to the effect “this important and popular area is a valued historical record of economic deprivation, crime and recession and the unremarkable, therefore it demands preservation”.Well now!
Didn’t you know that one house miles and miles away is entitled to hold up a much needed development – all because they might not have as much of Finbarres to enjoy from their back garden.
Maybe Jurys should object to that lady’s tatty house that it spoils the people of Cork’s view of Sunday’s Well from Lancaster Qy…?Absolutely.
You swear it was some majestic postcard view of the cathedral in any case (what with the half yellow half pink Jurys and the badly pruned trees as a foreground).
burge_eye, what’s the gist of the article? What possible grounds would they have for objection? The hotel as it is is an eyesore that is very much “isolated” in any case.
Groan… that article.
I used to live in that area.
Hooker central.
Other than that – all those derelcit buildings? Well now – let’s turn the tourist agency into an “info shop” cos you know that will be financially self sustaining and keep the shop open! Commerce dictates the viability of a “high street”.
These abandoned premises were trying to operate in a very dodgy area – not gonna attract many shoppers!!!The owners are probably also waiting for a squatter to “accidentally” set a fire and gee darn the buildings will have to be demolished and redeveloped along the lines of the fine examples of built environment around the corner on Arran Qy.
But they wouldn’t do that if commercial rental income was high now would they?!?CIE are not only holding Horgan’s Qy back… Spencer Dock in Dublin is suffering of late too. Treasury went ahead and sold a whole tranche of apartments – confirmed a large anchor for offices (PWC) and began ground work on site. Now CIE it seems are relenting and throwing a serious spanner in the works for this project. If Spencer Dock cannot get a smooth ride from the CIE side of things – how on earth can Horgans Qy expect otherwise?
Lexington – I’m a little worried about the comment of alterations to the facade in the interest of “asthetic quality”… the CCC are hardly going to be the bastions of fine architectural taste. If their idea of positive intervention is that Frinailla dev on Grand Parade (yielding something so dull they might aswell retain the GP Hotel facade and noone would notice) then this could be an ominous sign. I know in this case (cormarket st) that the intial design for the hotel on site was a disaster so intervention is probably for the best here.
