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Olan Mills is usually a safe bet.
Not to derail too far, but I’m pretty sure the building on SSG looks like that because it’s awaiting the redevelopment of the adjoining Hainault House and Canada House on the corner of Earlsfort Terrace. When built, both of those buildings will presumably have footprints not dissimilar to the old Dept of Justice one, and will likely abut its side walls to the rear.
@hutton wrote:
Sinn Féin’s Daithà Doolan said it was good to see a project that was “trying to do something with the Liffey”.
Presumably he meant ‘to the Liffey’ rather than ‘with the Liffey’? :rolleyes:
I’d like to see something done with the Liffey- how about a good clean, a tidal barrier and a management plan to ensure bullshit concepts like this don’t make it out of the heads of maniacs?
Nature abhors a vacuum- but why must it be left to the lunatic fringe to fill that void?
Fair question, mp. And, eh, don’t worry about the negativity. 😉
I think it’s an okay building. I like it for the reasons GrahamH suggests- respectful of scale, etc. Solid if unremarkable.
I do miss the old railings that fronted the previous building, which presumably dated from an earlier incarnation (19th century?), and wonder why they couldn’t have been kept- this tabula rasa approach to redevelopment has never convinced me, as if a set of railings might be the undoing of a project.
Also, this building is another example of a replacement building that seems to require total site coverage. Generally I’d favour bringing such buildings to the edge of the street, but filling out the site right to the edge on all sides results in a structure that looms somewhat over adjoining sites/properties, and looks like it’s on steroids. The previous incumbent may have been a bit too reticent, but this isn’t the solution to that problem.
Surely there’s a third way?
[/Tony Blair]
‘of course’? It wasn’t apparent to me. Say what you mean. ‘Incompetence’ is a very serious accusation.
a decision was due a long time ago but the board said they needed more time because of all the paper work and as a result, the decision was delayed.
Seems like the essence of competence to me. What do you want? A rushed judgement?
Ha ha ha: “incompitant” [sic].
Do you have a clue what you’re talking about? What incompEtEnce are you referring to? Care to back up the accusation? I hear CC105 is looking for a new best friend…
I’ll put this as simply as possible: the case has not yet been decided. ‘Kay? Do your bloody homework. The case reference is 224640. Put it into the ‘Search’ box on http://www.pleanala.ie if you want the latest news.
And the first buzzword in the Flash animation on the front page is ‘impact’- very telling indeed.
(I presume they mean the impact of the advertising, rather than any other sort of impact. Say, that of a car on a cyclist…)
Not sure I’d agree with the term ‘discount foodstore’. College Green is definitely a set-piece in the city, but the uses of the buildings is only a small part of that equation. If Lidl can afford the rent, then great. It’s high time a fuller range of services existed in the city centre, and a fuller range of supermarket options- there’s M&S, Dunnes, etc., so why not the rest?
And I don’t live in the cc but I’d use it, say, on the way home, as alonso noted.
If they get the treatment and finishes right – agreed, signage is key – then I have no issues.
Interesting article from last Saturday’s Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jul/11/supermarkets.retailBring it on!
Most Aldis, Lidls, etc. are in very unsustainable locations outside town centres that require a car, so making a play for a city centre site means car-free weirdos like me can finally access their goodies. I know there are branches in town already, but most are well off my beaten track.
Also, the recessionistas* will be delighted that they can conspicuously consume low cost items in the comfort of the southside! Keeping it cheap- it’s all the rage now, darling! Hadn’t you heard?
* Is this the most offensive aspect of the current downturn? That minding your pennies is now in some way fashionable? Those of us who have been minding our pennies all through the C***** T**** because we had no other option must be delighted to know that we’re now the height of fashion.
I hope you’re right, Stephen.
@GrahamH wrote:
Ah ctesiphon has saved me having to post the same images.
Aah go on- mine were grabbed in a hurry at lunchtime, burdened with groceries, merely for info purposes. I’d be keen to see someone else’s take on them too.
I don’t mind the two Henry Street ones as much – at least they have a bit of breathing space, though the siting is crude – but the Liffey Street ones are horrors.
Any other pics from other corners of the city yet?
Liffey Street, west side, outside M&S, north face of sign.
Occupies roughly half of the footpath.
Liffey Street, east side, junction with Proby’s Lane, north face of sign.
Because of the setback at Proby Lane, blocks about 2/3 of the pedestrian ‘desire line’. At least the ads’ll get seen. :rolleyes:
Henry Street, north side, junction with Sampson’s Lane, west face of sign.
Henry Street, north side, junction with Moore Street, west face of sign.Agreed, they’re not the worst designs in the world, but that was never really my problem with the smaller units.
In addition to my general opposition from the perspective of the pedestrian, there are two basic problems with them from the specific point of view of blind/partially-sighted pedestrians. As noted by Smithfield Redi up there, the corners should be rounded. In addition, as submitted by the DTO to An Bord Pleanála, the full extent of the sign should be detectable on the ground by white stick users. These fail that test.
Any chance you could snap a pic, CM00?
And anyone else- I’d be keen to see what these yokes look like in situ, particularly the larger roadside ones.
On which subject, I got this in my inbox this morning, taken yesterday evening by The Brother:
@notjim wrote:
It would be weird to cancel a construction heavy infrastructure project, particularly with the roads projects winding down as the inter-urban routes get completed.
Not just that; contractors are going to be getting more and more competitive too. Perhaps not great for the employees, but good news for the delivery of infrastructure- the time is now, now more than ever. (There might even be money left over in T21 for cycling! :rolleyes:)
@notjim wrote:
the only thing more invisible than glass is a set back and a glass set back is, and I speak with authority as a physicist, invisible squared.
It’s been a while since I studied maths, so apologies for the rustiness, but I seem to recall that squaring invisibility, like multiplying any negative number by itself, results in something all too plainly visible?
Anyone else get the impression that the northside is gearig up for an assault on the southside? Topple the Parnell monument, lash a couple of Luas lines around it like a rocket in a slingshot, and launch it using the Carlton slope. I can’t believe we didn’t see it before! But what’s the target?
The Gresham revamp must be Bertie’s command tower in disguise. “Like a cross between Mao’s balcony and Old Trafford.”
