cheezypuf
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People who opposed the ‘Metropoles’ might like to make submissions to DCC’s outdoor advertising strategy.
You can read the strategy here
http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/Documents/Outdoor_Adverting_Strategy.pdfAnd make submissions here
http://dublincitydevelopmentplan.ie/outdoor_advertising_strategy.phpIt’s been 14 years now that this market has been closed and festering. Pity. We could really do with a proper covered market. Anyone any idea if there are any plans for development or will they continue to rot ’till they’re demolished?
The reason for the closure of the store is not entirely clear
I’m glad someone has a sense of humour. Have you ever been inside West’s? In fact, has anyone ever been inside West’s? Retailing on Graton Street has changed a little in the last 50 years. A jewellers with a locked door in to which prospective customers cannot see, fronted by a dated aluminium pastiche exterior is doomed to failure. My only surprise is that it made it this far.
@Pot Noodle wrote:
Thought as much
I thought you weren’t commenting again?
Thanks for the offer S.O.S, but the guys have fitted all the glass now and they’ll be finishing the painting tomorrow. I’m so looking forward to getting my house back!
@GrahamH wrote:
cheezypuf, can I ask why you are going about commissioning new cylinder glass for your windows? Surely the entire charm of original glass is that it is original – its flaws and imperfections the result of contemporary manufacturing limitations. Why would you want to falsely recreate that? Similarly, if I wanted to ‘read’ your building and be charmed by the integrity of its flashing panes of 19th century glass amongst the modern inserts, I would be sorely disappointed.
I’ve never quite understood why people would go to such effort to deceive in the installation of fake old glass. It’s akin to eschewing modern transportation and bringing all the building materials to your house on a horse and cart.
A couple of the windows had glass replaced over the years. The old putty wasn’t cleared out properly and was left partially intact, and a new smaller pane was inserted, with more putty on top of the old. This was a pretty sloppy way to repair a window and has resulted in the glass being too small for the original frame when the layers of putty have been removed. As a result new glass will be needed anyway, so I thought glass that resembled the other (original) panes would be nice. Glass that isn’t damaged or too small isn’t being replaced.
I’m sorry that you find this sorely disappointing, but I’m doing my best to use the same materials and methods that were used when the windows were originally constructed. To this end, any replacement timber used is the same type as that removed, i.e. pitch pine. This has added to the expense, but I don’t think adding in pressure-treated deal, silicone filler or plastic beading would be very sensitive.
I’m not sure I agree with your analogy of a horse and cart. I think I’d prefer to use the example of someone with a period house choosing shades and types of paint that were available at the time the house was built, rather than modern hues and finishes.
I’m not sure if there is a right answer – perhaps it comes down to taste (or lack thereof)?
@Pot Noodle wrote:
The plastic is an isopon based product i would slice with salvaged timber myself 4/6 windows again i say depending on condition some windows have very little wrong with them i.e weights ,sash cords missing beads & over painting i work for myself so there is no incentive to skive off like i said we just get stuck in
I’m talking about proper restoration though, not patching them up with plastic bits.
As a minimum a restored window will need a printer, undercoat and gloss. How do you manage to get all three coats on and dry in one day, and on six windows? Not to mention replacing damaged timber, replacing cords, rehanging weights, removing old puty, waiting a month for the puty to dry before painting, etc?
@Pot Noodle wrote:
You may drag it out to justifie €800 a window we just get stuck in the days of ripping people off is long gone value for money now
I’m in the middle of having all the windows at the front of my Victorian house done, including a large bay window.
I shopped around quite a bit and was very unimpressed with W J Bolder aka Ventrolla. The reason my windows need attention is that Bolger’s did them around ten years ago and removed part of the original frames and replaced them with plastic which has caused the wooden surrounds to split and rot. They also infilled part of the windows with silicone which sealed in water and caused further decay of the timber. They removed some of the original wrought iron and solid brass catches and replaced them with brassed catches and fittings which have since corroded.
Having spoken to Bolders I found them very unhelpful and uninterested in conservation. I explained that I wanted to retain as much of the original materials as possible, and they said they’d f@ck them out and replace them with new ones. They also failed to return calls, failed to turn up at the appointed time and were reluctant to return a sample sash I had given them for assessment.
In the end I settled for someone who is charging me more than twice the €800 per window price quoted, but I am very pleased with the quality of the work, and am satisfied that I won’t need to redo it in a few years like I’ve had to do with Bolger’s.
Part of the reason my price is higher than the €800 is that they are fusing cracked glass back together and hand blowing new cylinder glass to replace modern panes.
They may not be the fastest workers, but I really don’t see how anyone could claim to restore six sash windows in a day and do anything like a proper job.
I’m glad to say the pole I appealed was refused. Nice to think I made a difference, albeit a small one.
We were told repeatedly that the Bord Pleanála appeal process was a ‘quasi-judicial process’. As such, given that my appeal has been upheld, I presume they’ll be scrambling to return my extortionate €300 fee?
There’s another queer little building on Newmarket – coulda been a weighouse.
That little building still stands. It’s marked on the ordnance survey map as a fire station, but was originally built by St Luke’s, the nearby church. It served as a mini police station, run by the church before the establishment of civil police. Apparently the fairs in Newmarket were bawdy events.
More details in this report http://www.dublincity.ie/Images/St.%20Luke’s%20Conservation%20Plan%20(2MB)_tcm35-52824.pdf
Regarding the tunnel from Sandford Park School in Ranelagh – The building was completed in 1897, so is relatively modern. Having schooled there for nine years, I also heard the rumour, but didn’t believe it for a moment. Neither did any of the staff or students. Despite fairly extensive building work in the grounds, no evidence was ever found, nor was any reason for such a tunnel ever suggested.
