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Originally posted by Jack White
Zap you are absolutely right it is sad that yet another Dublin institution is gone. Findlater House is a complete insult to the great tradition that family name once represented, Harvy nicks can retain status in London or even Dundrum, Grafton St will be at a serious loss minus Bewleys Oriental Cafe full stop

Aren’t we all getting a little misty eyed? Grafton st is now officially the 5th most expensive street in the world. People’s tastes for coffee and food have rocketed in the last 5-10 years. Bewley’s is an idea, a throw back to the safe old days of breakfast with granny in Bewleys. It has been left behind and seems powerless to sort out it’s act.

The fact is that it is literally a facade. A nice building with a crap coffee shop behind the myth. By all means keep the buildings, list them even, but I for one won’t miss the coffee.

Originally posted by PVC King
They would have to do something for people like Kefu who live in the town or there would be uproar. The result I think is that many people who need motorised transport would buy houses inside the line to get around any charge that came in. Where years ago people got insurnace back home now, country people would use a buddy’s address to get a free congestion pass if a charge was put in.

Similarly, when I worked in singapore they had a rule that only cars with red number plates could enter the city on mon, wed and fri. White number plates enter tues thurs and sat, with either being allowed in on Sunday. It was an easy way for the traffic wardens to police it without the need for charges. Unfortunately the people just bought another car leading to more congestion. It’s a vicious circle.

Originally posted by Devin

Well it’s a pity poor burgeye can’t drive from Pearse Street straight into College Green anymore!

It goes without saying that when you close one route it increases congestion somewhere else. The idea of the above banning is that the overall volume of traffic going from Pearse Street to Dame Street is reduced, cos its more hassle to do it than it used to be.

It’s not really a pity because I chose architecture as a career and as a result I’m never away til after 7, so I just drive up it anyway.

Much as I’d like to think it was an idealistic move, I think, however, the real reason for that change in traffic flow was to make it easier for the fire engines to get up Dame street. And to help the Garda get home quicker.

Originally posted by Devin
kefu, as a driver-thru-the-city what do you think of the banning of the right turn from Patrick St/Nicholas St into Christchurch Place to private cars? We (A Taisce Dublin City) suggested this in our submission to the draft City Dev Plan, as a traffic-calming measure for Dame St/College Gn, on the basis that it would mirror the recent banning of prvate car passage from Pearse St into College St, restricting traffic from entering the College Gn/Dame St area from the opposite direction.

Or are all these ideas here on this thread for calming College Gn premature before the Macken St bridge? (hope not)

All the Pearse / college st ban did was create an infuriating half mile loop for those people needing to go up Dame street. In the process it made the left turn from Tara street to the quays a nightmare, clogged up D’Olier St or added to the general mayhem on Wellington Quay and Parliament Street.

I was jollying through the first ever page of these threads and found this one re the archers garage.

What do people think now that it’s resplendant in its former glory (4 years later than promised, incidentally)?

I remember someone mentioning river taxis once and I thought it was a brilliant idea. Is there any reason why we can’t do it?

I hated every crit I ever had but I can’t say I remember many of them as I was usually well full of dutch courage before I stood up. It’s basically a panel of half arsed “architects” trying to win points over each other by trashing the work of some poor sod. I remember one professor reducing a girl to tears then turning to the next victim and greeting them with ” I hope you’re not going to bloody cry”

On a related note myself and 4 other architects (all 10+ years qualified) agreed in principal last night that the University years were, in effect, totally useless as far as our careers panned out. I can honestly say that I could have gone straight into an office and learned more about the real world of architecture / business than I was ever taught in college.

But then again, I might never have had my thesis described as rubbish by Richard Rogers.

Originally posted by lexington
*UPDATES*

🙁 O’Callaghan Properties (Riga Limited) have seen the decision date on their application for a huge development at the Jurys Hotel site on the Western Road in Cork pushed back until the 16th December 2004. Such a move was pretty much expected. The original decision date was due for the 10th of October (next week). The application is having a bumpy ride through planning – but it seems to have its champions at City Hall. With the number of objections lodged against the project, a grant may see the development brought before ABP. Its a shame really, but we’ll just have to wait and see.

Yeah, pretty much expected though a bit surprised that the decision was extended by 10 weeks – 2 weeks longer than the actual planning decision period itself. Have CCC imposed similar extensions on other major projects recently?

Agree Kino cinema looks great. Roll on tomorrow, keep us informed Lexington!!

Nassau street can be discounted as it would become pointless as a route but

Take a look at the volume of traffic that continues from the North Quay to Dame Street via College Green. All of the traffic for Dame Steet, Georges Street and Christchurch would have to be channelled down the quay and up Parliament Street.

Hundreds upon hundreds of people get buses to work which stop at opp. trinity St. via Dame Street. Would all of these be re-routed up Georges Street? Or Suffolk Street?

Take a look at the traffic jams – all day – on Pearse Street with it’s 4 lanes. And only 3 buses serve it. Take 2 lanes away? Insanity

Don’t want to be a wet blanket but the total chaos caused just because we want to walk from Trinity to um, eh, where exactly? To admire the Bank of Ireland’s railings?

It would seem that the only way to acheive the ideal is to build an underpass.