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ParticipantWell I don’t see any Irish ones stepping up to do it! I would prefer and Irish store but its just not going to happen.
Whats wrong with a foreign store on the main street anyway or is it just because its English?
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ParticipantJust how many convenience stores can a city centre support.
Exactly, it’s just unbelievably.
It’s the SPARIFICATION of the city.
SPARville as it will soon be known.
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ParticipantWell I do agree with you there, that’s not what anyone wants but I think the opening of a large exclusive shop on the street would have the knock on effect of other less exclusive shops etc moving there.
For example I don’t shop in BT on Grafton Street but there are plenty of less exclusive shops on the street that I do shop in.
Its the capitals main street it should have a certain amount of exclusiveness and this will in turn attract less exclusive shops etc. that are better quality to what’s there at the moment.
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ParticipantI don’t think O’Connell Street needs another gaudy convenience store to encourage people to that area. It’s got enough pedestrian activity especially at the time the shop is going to be open.
What would make more sense is if the Abbey does move to the Carlton Cinema and the area may become the theatrical area of the city it would keep this area buzzing at night.
The streets needs a bit of class, I think if the rumours of Harvey Nicks moving to the street were true it would be a great. An anchor store like HN would in turn attract other better quality shops and restaurants.
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ParticipantHow the f*** are Super Value allowed to move there I thought there was going to be some sort of restriction on who and what appears on the street from now on.
Super Value is hardly going to give the street the “Champs Elyses” feel the DCC is after.
That just makes my blood boil. 😡
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ParticipantI remember it too, it was like a patio someone might have at the back of a bungalow. It seemed very out of place.
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ParticipantYeah a good engineer would do that for you as a nixer. Not even a days work in it.
Getting someone to fabricate the twisting section might be a bit harder but still reakon it would come in well under the €14K mark.
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ParticipantWhat condition will the Street be in for Beautiful Night event on May the first.
100k people is a huge number for a building site to handle!
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ParticipantI agree garethace about Liffey street north and I think it should be predestrianized once Abbey st is reopened fully. It’s such a busy link between the main shopping areas of the city centre. Not much traffic uses it any more either.
I noticed that the part predestrianisation of the south quays (post port tunnel) was mentioned in the new plan for Temple bar. This was an idea that was rubbished on this site a while ago. I wonder why the south quays where chosen over the northern quays? Northern quay are after all south facing.
(As you may have noticed I’d predestianize the whole of the city centre if I had my way 🙂 )
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ParticipantI have always wondered why that footpath is so thin along the Trinity side of Naussau Street and South Leinster Street. It does not make sense when you think of the amount of people waiting to get various buses.
You could say that about most of the footpaths in Dublin. Its about time the old predestrian reclaimed some street space.
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ParticipantI think the IE plans are great and the sooner they get implemented the better
I think the Luas will be a success in the areas it operates.
I know the metro would be expensive.
However I just don’t think we can fulfil future demands with more Luas lines. We could have Luas lines on every artery and still not meet demand. Dublin has a footprint three times the size of Amsterdam and a growing population that will need a metro system and we should start now.
I fear an M50 like situation were planners didn’t forsee future demand. I would be delighted to be convinced otherwise!
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ParticipantPlatform11’s diagram if you can follow it. Also the graphic from the indo here
You have to hand it to IE for having a bit of vision for a change but I think the chance of it getting built in six years is fanciful. However even if just parts of this plan get built it will make a difference to the long-suffering commuter.
It looks like the metro will finally die if this gets the go ahead. Which I think is short sightedness and will prove more costly in the future when a metro will have to be built and interest rates are higher.
Notjim the metro wasn’t just a connection to the airport but a foundation stone of a larger network to serve all those areas that are not served properly by public transport.
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ParticipantThis area is now very crushed and cluttered compared to what it was beforehand. I think they have over done it on the number of kiosks, one or two maybe but four is over kill. Are there really enough booksellers in Dublin to take up the leases on them all?
I say move the daft seats or even remove the their backs so you can sit and look down the Liffey.
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ParticipantYou’ve lost me …. :confused:
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ParticipantCorrect me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Trinity acquired some buildings on Dame St next to Foster Place. They’re going to knock them into each other to create a larger space and construction is on going at the moment.
The plan is to rent out the retail units and have lecture rooms etc on the upper floors. Think Little Ceasers is moving in!
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ParticipantInteresting to see the U2 tower never got the go ahead in this utopian dream!
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ParticipantI’d agree Wolf Tone Park is a lot better now it’s opened up. When they eventually finish working on St Mary’s it should be even better.
Does any one know what is happening with the Dame Street’s Millennium Garden? Did the proposed plan get planning permission?
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Participant…. and if it doesn’t get the go ahead this year it’ll become an election issue and we’ll see a re-run of the political football that besieged the Luas.
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ParticipantHear hear
Looking at the broader picture I totally agree with utilising the existing heavy rail network (without swamping it) and the sooner the better but its just not enough and I don’t think running Luas lines everywhere is the solution either.
The biggest problem with the Luas line is its capacity as mentioned earlier. Trams on the Red line are going to be full when they reach Heuston. We know this before the line even opens. It’s the whole M50 over again as soon as it opens its reached capacity.
The Luas has to compete for road space so it’s slower and more disruptive to build. We need to invest in a metro to serve the commuter capacity of the future the Luas just can’t compete.
Its already late but if we don’t act now and start building a metro the city will suffer. Invest in the future. It will be money well spent if it’s done properly.
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ParticipantI agree with Diaspora, the sooner people realise that the metro isn’t a ‘nice to have’ but essential to the future of Dublin the better.
More Buses or more Luas lines may help but they won’t solve the problem. Dublin needs a well thought metro system. One line isn’t the solution but one line as a part of well thought out system is. The London underground wasn’t built in one go.
Dublin has a footprint three times the size of Amsterdam and growing. Huge swathes of Dublin need to be serviced properly and the only way is by investing in a metro system now.
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