Blisterman
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Can’t be much worse than Stamford Bridge.
This was the view I got when I went to a match there, in a season ticket seat as well.
I agree completely that Irish achitecture is too conservative and lacks innovation. But only a tiny percentage of innovative buildings being built nowadays are tall. In fact, most tall buildings, being built nowadays have fairly boring designs, as they are built for maximum floorspace and profit.
@rob mc wrote:
Although Dublin only has one third of the population,its urban landmass is comparable to that of Berlin!!!!!
we have to start going UP and not OUT!!One tall building in the middle of a plaza, won’t make one iota of difference to the density of Dublin.
What causes Dublin’s Low Density, is the miles and miles of detached and semi detached suburbs.
Do you know which city in Europe has the highest population Density?
Paris. Which has very few tall buildings. Instead it has consistently 6/7/8 storey terraced buildings, fronting onto the street.I’d like to reiterate, that I have no problem with tall buildings per se. I just think that, as they are more prominent than other buildings, they require a much higher standard of architecture.
I do think a cluster of tall buildings, like Canary Wharf, could work well in the Docklands, or possibly Sandyford.
A solitary tall building, only works well if the design is exceptionally strong, like the Eiffel Tower, or Jean Nouvel’s tower in Barcelona. Otherwise you end up with something like Liberty Hall, or Centrepoint in London.
So, if the first tower to go up, is as mediocre as that one, you’re not going to find out what a second one beside it will look like.@The Denouncer wrote:
I want well designed tall buildings in the city, nothing wrong with that. Maybe that’s a stupid thing to wish for in Ireland, you’re right there.
You didn’t mention anything about a well designed one.
Anyway, that comment wasn’t solely directed at you. A lot of people seem to have a fetish for any building so long as it’s tall.
Typical comments I see around here (paraphrased):
“Yes! Finally a tall building, being built in Dublin, only 70 years later than the rest of the world.”
“This is exciting, the lift shaft has reached 10 stories.”
“10 years of the Celtic tiger, and we don’t have a single tall building in Dublin.”
@The Denouncer wrote:
The luck of the Irish. We’re just about to get our first really tall building..and the global economy takes a dive.
So, you just want tall buildings for the sake of having tall buildings? That’s a bit stupid don’t you think? Does good design go out the window, just because a building’s tall?
I think, before we start banning cars from the city centre, we need to sort out the Public transport system in Dublin. Compared to London, and other cities, it’s atrocious.
Where I’m from, in Clonskeagh, near UCD, there’s only one bus into town, and you’re likely to be waiting over half an hour to get it. I wouldn’t rely on that, if I had to be in work on time. And if you wanna get home after 11, you’re pretty much stuck with getting a taxi, which you also have to wait hours for, or walking.And I live relatively close to the city centre. God knows what it’s like for residents of other districts further away from the centre. I don’t blame anyone wanting to drive to work.
What we need is a proper network of trains and Luas, which will enable people to confidently rely on public transport. Then we can start thinking about trying to reduce traffic in the city centre.
Well, at least there’s only a few in Dublin.
Compare it to some UK cities, where the city centres are just massive shopping centres.
Apparently Abercrombie and Fitch considered the site, but refused as they thought the Area was too downmarket.
They’ve obviously got high aspirations. Their London Store is just off Savile Row.
I’d be happy to see them there, to be honest. They did a really good job on the London store, which is an 18th century listed building. There’s no signs outside or anything.
@Peter FitzPatrick wrote:
They’re often commonly known as Lime trees or Lindens, the term lime is mainly used in Britain afaik & seems to have evolved from Linden (often used in central europe & the us) … no relation to the Citrus lime.
That’s a shame. How great would it be, to sit in the middle of O Connell St, making margharitas?
Good to hear about that. I don’t know what you guys have against one off housing.
Sure, a lot of it is crap. But look at the amount of great buildings which wouldn’t exist, if this law applied everywhere:Fallingwater, Tugendat House, Nearly every great countryside mansion.
The whole thing seems a bit half baked, to be honest.
Elaborating on my earlier post,
I think creating a new street off north west O Connell St, is a good idea. As it is, the unbroken facade is too long, and that part of the street is a bit devoid of atmosphere.
However, all that’s needed is a small, narrow street, for pedestrians. The chunk taken out is far too big, and will lack the atmosphere, narrower shopping streets, such as Grafton St, have.
I think a medium sized public square, surrounded on all sides by buildings, with small eccentric narrow streets leading to it, would be ideal for the location. It could incorporate existing as well as new buildings. The Carlton should be left where it is, and refurbished. It could be converted into a Galleria, or shopping arcade leading to the Public square, or reconverted into a cinema. It’s one of my favourite facades on the street, but I don’t think moving it, is the answer. I’m too young to remember what it was like inside. Is it worth preserving the interiors?Not too crazy about this scheme. O connell st needs development, but this is certainly not what it needs.
While a public square as part of the scheme would be good, taking a huge chunk out of the side of O connell street is not the way to do it. A much better way to do it, would have been to have it behind the line of buildings, connected by covered shopping arcades, from Henry, Moore and O Connell St.I’m also not that crazy about the elevated pedestrian shopping.Every example of these I’ve been to, just hasn’t seemed to work. City shopping should all be at street level.
Am I the only person here who likes it?
I haven’t seen it in person, but based on the photos, it looks quite cool.The real question is has there ever been a succesful social housing project anywhere? If so, how come that succeeded, while most others failed?
I don’t know why they made it so hard to look out of the new walkway.
I would have loved to be able to look out at the old terminal building through big plate glass windows.
As it is now, you can barely see out at all.
