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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    Paddington bear believes that the semicircular steps are quite incongruous and even more so by the upper step being rectangular! 😉

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    m mm. .Not sure if there’s to much text in these. . I done this to scale. .the lettering looks a little to condensed for the panel size, & quite difficult to read, do ya think?

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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    looking at this again, I am inclined to think that it might be possible to take the three verses from the Hymn from vespers and put them on the thee central panels. The first verse is addressed to Our LAdy, the second to St. Joseph and the thid to Our Lord.

    It might then be possible to take two of the verses or responsories or antiphons cited abouve and use those at both ends.

    Just a thought!!

    That sounds like a good plan. . definite potential there. .everything for a reason. .😉

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    Andrew Graham-Dixon (yes him again) presents the Art of Russia and the different ways it has been influenced by cultural events. This piece features the Cathedral of St. Sophia, also known in the Orthodox tradition as “Divine Wisdom,” is one of the great churches of Eastern Christendom. Despite debate about the beginning date of its construction, there is general consensus that the work began in 1037 on the order of grand prince Yaroslav of Kiev and was completed in the 1050s. Although the exterior of the cathedral has been modified by reconstruction in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries (it had fallen into ruin after the Mongol invasion in 1240), excavations in the 1930s, as well as the study of possible designs, have furnished what is considered a definitive version of the original. In its basic parts, the plan of Kiev’s St. Sophia conforms to the cross – domed model. Each of its five aisles has an apse with an altar in the east. The central aisle, from the west entrance to the east, is twice the width of the flanking aisles. This proportion is repeated in the transept aisle that defines the cathedral’s main north – south axis.

    The focal point of the exterior is the main cupola, elevated on a high cylinder (“drum”) over the central crossing and surrounded by twelve cupolas arranged in descending order. The thick opus mixtum walls (composed of narrow brick and a mortar of lime and crushed brick) are flanked by two arcaded galleries on the north, south, and west facades, and by choir galleries on the interior. Thus the elevated windows of the cylinders beneath the cupolas are the main source of natural light for the interior space. The interior walls of the main cupola and apse are richly decorated with mosaics. The rest of the interior walls contain frescoes that portray saints as well as members of Yaroslav’s family.

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    Sorry Praxiteles, I’m in need of your mentoring skills once again.:o I’m probably wrecking your poor head with more questions about Latin quotations. I’m currently undertaking the decoration of another sanctuary in a Church dedicated to the ‘Familiae sanctae’
    The Chancel is a five sided apse in shape, with each of the three central walls having representations in stained glass windows with stories of the Holy family. Each wall measures approximately three meters in length & I’m looking to create a Latin worded decorative frieze (300mm deep) along the complete length of the upper wall area with five relevant quotations along the top of each 3m section.

    *SANCTÆ FAMILIÆ IESU, MARIÆ, IOSEPH* might be one i could use.
    *sanctum sanctorum* or *Credo in Unum Deum* would be to short to adequately fill the space’s & are not particularly relevant.
    Alternatively one continuous Hymn would suffice but I’m not having much luck here either. .

    This one is just to long;
    Domine Iesu Christe, qui Mariae et Ioseph subditus, domesticam vitam ineffabilibus virtutibus consecrasti: fac nos, utriusque auxilio, Familiae sanctae tuae exemplis instrui; et consortium consequi sempiternum: Qui vivis et regnas cum Deo Patri in unitate Spiritus Sancti Deus, per omnia saecula saeculorum.

    O Lord Jesus Christ, who, being subject to Mary and Joseph, didst sanctify home life with unspeakable virtues: grant, that, by the aid of both, we may be taught by the example of Thy Holy Family, and attain to eternal fellowship with it: Who livest and reign-est, with God the Father, in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end.

    Any thoughts or input would be greatly appreciated.:)

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773873
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    Another York Minster boss featuring Saints Peter & Paul.

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    Some images of the exquisite detail of the gilded bosses to the Chapter & vaulted ceilings in York Minister. . You would need binoculars to view much of the imagery.

    My parents took me there as child. . I’ve never forgotten that excursion. . must take my own kids there some day!

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    Hey there Prax. . .Sorry but were not all multilingual like your good-self.:confused:
    What is Piusbruderschaft BTW?

    A kinda rough enough translation from German to English of the above by the Google Translater.

    The United States: What do you personally the five years that Pope Benedict XVI. in office?
    Mosebach: Benedict XVI. schwerstmögliche the task has made: He wants to heal the terrible consequences of the ’68 revolution within the church to non-revolutionary way. This pope is simply not a papal dictator, he relies on the strength of the better argument, and he hopes that the nature of the church it is not overcome by themselves in accordance with, if you some small assistance to be given. This program is so subtle that it can be represented either in official statements could be understood in an almost inconceivably coarse journalistic public. It is a program that its effect only in the future, probably only show significantly after the death of the Pope, is. But already the courage of the pope is seen, with whom he donates reconciliation beyond the narrow limits of the canon beyond – in China by integrating the Patriotic Church and to the Russian and Greek Orthodox – and by his new fusion of traditional and enlightened Biblical theology, which us out of the impasses of rationalistic biblical criticism.

    The United States, we must prepare ourselves not to abuse in Catholic institutions other countries and how do you think Pope Benedict should then respond to that?
    Mosebach: Of course the Church must always expect that their assault in boarding schools and individual teachers at the school, which lies in the nature of things. Where children are taught, are found always an even individuals with pedophilic tendencies. But we must ask why it is frequently in Catholic boarding schools, especially in the Second Vatican Council directly to the following years came to sex crimes by priests. There is no way around to the bitter conclusion: the experiment of “aggiornamento”, the approximation of the Church in a secularized world, has failed in a terrible way. After the Second Vatican Council laid the majority of priests from the priests clothing, they ceased to celebrate daily Mass and prayed the breviary not daily. The conciliar theology was doing everything possible to forget the traditional priests image. All institutions that a priest had done to his difficult and lonely life support, have been called into question. What wonder if many priests could feel in these years, not in traditional way as a priest. The priestly discipline that has been deliberately suppressed, was very largely formulated in the Council of Trent. Even then it had been about to fight a corruption of the clergy and to arouse the consciousness of the sanctity of the priesthood again. It is nice to now the minister of the Church to ask the victims for forgiveness of sins, but more importantly it will be to the reins of discipline in the sense of the Council of Trent re-attract and return to a priesthood of the Catholic tradition.

    The United States: What should the Catholic Church, Pope Benedict will leave again?
    Mosebach expected: It would be desirable this pope that he first traces of a reform of the church still notice them. But this pope is so unpretentious and modest that he would consider such traces probably not as a result of his work. I think he wants to spare his successor thankless but necessary work by itself it does – hopefully this successor uses the great opportunity that Benedict will have created him.

    “The year 1968 is still not at a sufficient unrecognized phenomenon”
    The United States: The liturgical reform has changed the Catholic Church fundamentally – why?
    Mosebach: “liturgical reform”, the intervention of Pope Paul VI. for over 1500 years in the traditional Roman Catholic liturgy just called – in reality it was a revolution here, which is on the order of the Second Vatican Council, liturgical books “carefully” look through not, covered. It has centered on the worship of God which focused celebration of the last two millennia to humans, it has undermined the priesthood and obscured the doctrine of the Church of the sacraments very large extent.

    The United States: In the late ’60s, there were many breaks in the world: the cultural revolution in China, the Prague Spring in Czechoslovakia, the student unrest at us, the Vietnam War – and the Second Vatican Council. Can we call these breaks in a row?
    Mosebach: The year 1968 is a something that is still not enough at all unrecognized phenomenon. Here in Germany, attention has been paid in this context, like with blissful memories of shared flats and the controversy about the correct reading of Marx. In truth, an axis 1968 years of history with one another is apparently completely independent anti-traditional movements in the world. But I am convinced that one day, if there is only enough distance to understand the Chinese Cultural Revolution and the Roman liturgical reform in a narrow context.

    The United States: Pope Benedict XVI. Council was involved as a theologian in this awakening of the council. What do you think his commitment today to revive some elements of the pre-conciliar liturgical church?
    Mosebach: Benedict XVI. sees one of his main tasks is the essence of the Church back to make more visible – the Catholics, and then even non-Catholics. The pope knows that the church is inextricably bound to their tradition. Church and revolution are irreconcilable opposites. He tries to intervene, where the appearance of the church by a radical break with the past is distorted. The church has just as their founder, two natures: a historical and a timeless. You must not forget where it comes from, and they must not forget where it goes. This is happening especially the Church in the West currently difficult: it has neither a sense of their historical or for their life in eternity.

    “The relationship of the Pope to Judaism is not a superficial” political “
    The United States: The request for the conversion of the Jews, as it was in use until the council was allowed by the reinstatement of the old rite again. Is this a good step?
    Mosebach: With the reinstatement of the under Paul VI. often enough forcibly displaced, and the growing liturgy came originally from the early Christianity prayer for the conversion of the Jews, which has its place in the Good Friday intercessions, back into the official books of the church. This early Christian, on a formulation of St. Paul-based request, contained the phrase that God would liberate the Jews from “their blindness” and “the veil take from their hearts.” Because these formulations of the Pope because of the recent history of the misunderstanding of a contempt of Jews by the Church allowed, he has with his restoration of the traditional rite here intervened and ordered a new formulation within the Old Rite, which also asks God to the Jews to lead them to Jesus Christ, but excludes the interpretation of disdain. It has accused the Pope that he will ever have to pray for the conversion of Jews to Jesus Christ – but one can expect of the Church of the Jews, Peter and Paul, seriously, to refrain from such prayer intention?

    The United States: How would you assess the relationship of the pope to the Jews to Israel?
    Mosebach: Benedict XVI. Perhaps since Peter the first Pope to understand Christianity from Judaism so closely out. His book betrays Jesus over long distances to try to read the New Testament through the eyes of the Old Testament. The relationship of the Pope to Judaism is not a superficial, political, not merely out of a fashionable philo-sympathizing, but is deeply theological, rooted in faith. One could even occasionally get the impression: If Benedict were not a Christian, he was a Jew. This betrays an ignorance nachzusagen Pope anti-Semitism and incompetence, which would exclude from public discourse.

    The United States: The controversy surrounding Pius brothers has been the Vatican brought no visible success. What does this group do you think of the Catholic Church other than their love for the old liturgy?
    Mosebach: Except for the old liturgy? What’s more important than the liturgy for the church? The liturgy is the body of the church, the liturgy is made visible faith. If the liturgy sick, sick of the whole church – this is not mere theory but a description of the current situation. You can not crass enough to represent: the crisis of the Church has made it possible that her greatest treasure, their Arcanum, was flushed out of the center to the periphery. The Piusbruderschaft, especially its founder, Archbishop Lefebvre is due, the historical glory of this most precious preserved over the decades and kept alive to have. Therefore, the Church of the Piusbruderschaft owes gratitude first of all, and this gratitude is the fact that it tries to take it out again to extricate many confusions and radicalization.

    “Christianity is the cornerstone of Europe, I see no other”
    The United States: The Pius brothers do not seem to really reach out to Rome.
    Mosebach: in talks with the Piusbruderschaft it comes to a patient advocacy, as is appropriate in spiritual matters. The talks appear to be very good atmosphere to go ahead. If it is possible one day, the Piusbruderschaft to reintegrate into the full unity of the Church would be the pontificate of Benedict the sixteenth. a success destined to go far in its meaning of the number of Piusbrüder.

    The United States, Christianity is one of the pillars of Europe. Will it still be relevant for the continent in the future?
    Mosebach: Christianity is the cornerstone of Europe, I see no other. All intellectual currents of modern times, even when they fight, Christianity owed its origin to Christianity, and ancient philosophy and art, we have received from the hands of Christianity. Should the European society as a whole want to turn away from Christianity, then that would mean nothing but that she denied herself. What we do not or will not know, but why still there. Displacement can not be a foundation for a hopeful future.

    The United States: They were some time in Turkey – Turkey would benefit as a full member of the EU or is it difficult to integrate an Islamic country in the Western values of composite?
    Mosebach: You surely understand that I can give you neither a political nor international response. I only see that Turkey in the 20th century had enormous difficulties with their Christian European minorities, precisely the anti-Islamic, modernizing Turkey. Until the 50s it was still a Greek-dominated Constantinople, but the coexistence with Christians, the modern Turks was intolerable, and they have since ended violently. Now it seems you moving near to Europe for economic reasons to find desirable, without moreover to revise the domestic fight against Christians. From what you call ‘integration into the Western values of composite, “we are, I believe, very far away

    by Martin Mosebach – 03.04.2010

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    Start of St Mel’s restoration works imminent.

    Assessor estimates five years to complete refurbishment.

    14 April 2010
    By Liam Cosgrove
    A lot done, more to do. It may be a term more readily identified on the national political stage, but it was a message which equally applied to last weekend’s specially convened meeting concerning the restoration of St Mel’s Cathedral.
    In the days and weeks following the devastating Christmas Day fire, which left large parts of the historic nineteenth century cathedral effectively destroyed, many question marks surrounding its eventual restoration emerged.

    Issues like, the extent of the damage, could the fire have been prevented, the rebuilding project’s time-frame and all-round costs were challenges that had largely remained unanswered.

    That was until last Saturday morning when around 100 interested observers took their place inside the college’s spacious assembly room to hear at first hand just how restoration plans were shaping up.

    Danny Donohoe, a leading member of Dublin-based property loss adjusting firm, OSG, said any hopes of commencing rebuilding works were still some way off.

    “There is a lot more work needed in terms of surveying the actual damage and what is left. There will be both photographic and dimensional surveys (needed).

    “It will be a long time before we know what we are dealing with here and what can be achieved. All the making safe measures have all been carried out through, conservation, architects and local authority requirements.

    “There is a project committee now in place to look at representations to oversee the restoration of the cathedral and a design team selection process is now underway and that’s advanced. These actions we reckon will be finished by the end of this month or into early May at the earliest,” he said.

    In reiterating the fire’s origin had begun in the cathedral’s central heating network, Mr Donohoe said the fire was largely the result of the building’s heating system being left on for 17 hours, almost 12 hours above normally accepted guidelines due to sub zero temperatures and the need to heat the cathedral ahead of Midnight Mass.

    Residual deposits or soot which had built up over many years effectively ignited, he said, before spreading to the sacristy area via corroded gaps in the cathedral’s chimney flu area.

    In ruling out any culpability for the fire’s outbreak, Mr Donohoe added despite severe structural damage having been caused “over 200 artefacts” were salvaged, including a sixteenth century book shrine and a statue of St Mel.

    That said, Mr Donohoe was up front as to where refurbishment works currently stood.

    “We estimate it could take roughly five years to carry out this work. There is a conservation architect on site throughout all of this work so we can identify and preserve anything that can be salvaged.

    “We needed to put in wind bracing to those external walls, because the roof is now gone, to provide support to the building. That is now just complete.

    “A temporary roof for the cathedral has been designed and that will be fitted shortly. There will be protected site hoarding going up around the cathedral,” he said, adding that conservation efforts will switch to a restorative footing by the start of next month at the latest.

    In fielding questions from those looking on, Mr Donohoe said it could take a full 12 months before the true extent and cost of the rebuilding works are known.

    “We just don’t know. You are dealing with a very unique building. We don’t yet know the scale of what we are ultimately going to be left with or ultimately what can or can’t go back.

    “We are confident that in time we will achieve a worthy restoration that will again see St Mel’s Cathedral take its place as a beautiful centre for prayer for the people of the diocese of Ardagh and Clonmacnoise,” he said.

    Bishop Colm O’Reilly, who earlier provided an historical oversight of the cathedral’s rich heritage, maintained parishioners from every corner of the Diocese will be kept fully briefed over the coming weeks and months ahead.

    “I have invited people to send in written comments about how the cathedral should look,” he said in response to a question tabled by the Leader.

    “Inevitably, people nearer to Longford will have more interest and involvement.

    “But on the other hand we don’t want to exclude people who maybe as far away as Clonmacnoise, Shannonbridge and places like that. One of my hopes is that this might be an opportunity to draw people in and increase interest (in St Mel’s Cathedral), tragic as all as it is.”

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773843
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    A still relevant sketch, even though it’s from all the way back in 1982. . . Church attendance on Songs of Praise. . .:)

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    Tales from the crypt
    Sunday, September 07, 2008 By Ruth O’Connor
    Stephen Bird Flanagan’s job entails chasing angels and saints, but he says his pursuit of religious antiques is as much a calling as a career.
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    In the crypt like cellar, lights glint on the curve of a chalice; on the stark relief of a monstrance; on the agony in the eye of the Christ at Calvary; on the seat of a church pew. The cool underground air and subdued lighting contrast sharply with the brassy brightness of the candelabra and a sanctuary lamp’s regal glow. You draw breath as you descend the stairs from the angel-bedecked doorway of the Dublin street above.

    Stephen Bird Flanagan’s thirst for antiquities is in his blood. His grandfather, Christy Bird, founded Christy Bird Antiques on Dublin’s South Richmond Street in 1945. Bird Flanagan spent his youth running in and out of his grandfather’s shop, his attraction to the archaic and the odd growing all the while. Yet, in a curious twist, it took a trip to Australia to sow the seeds of the business Bird Flanagan now runs.

    On his travels in the 1980s, Bird Flanagan was helping to restore a church when he met a glass restorer who enquired after the availability of stained glass from Irish churches. With a nose for antiques and an eye for art, Bird Flanagan’s interest was piqued.

    While it may have been his work that led him to stained glass, it was his curiosity that enabled him to fashion a career out of all manner of churchware. For the past 15 years, the father-of-two has been salvaging and selling, repairing and restoring items of churchware, from hand-painted Stations of the Cross, to stained glass panels and ciboria (vessels used to hold the consecrated host for Communion).

    He bought the building next door to Christy Bird Antiques (now run by his brother Christopher) and began to establish his reputation as a dealer in religious antiquities. The vast majority of his customers are clergy seeking items for churches. With the increasing sales of religious properties and the decrease in the number of clergy being ordained, the mid-90s was a time of acquisition for Bird Flanagan.

    ‘‘The number of items available really rose in the late-1990s and early2000s with the property boom in Ireland,” says the 43-year-old. ‘‘It has slowed down now and it is becoming more difficult to source items, but people know me now from being in the business so long and will ring if they are looking for a religious artefact.”

    The area around his shop has changed a lot since 1945, when Christy Bird opened his shop. Now, Irish Vestments nestles alongside Tassilli Halal Meats and Rico’s Flafel Shop. ‘‘When I bought this building we had to knock the whole thing down, so I was able to put this floor down – using lovely tiles from a convent. We bought the three buildings here in a row.”

    Bird Flanagan has a wealth of knowledge on the subject of stained glass. ‘‘Much of the stained glass you see was mass-produced by companies such as Mayer’s of Munich. Then in the early 1900s, people began commissioning Irish stained glass artists to produce works. I always had an interest in that period.”

    Mayers mass-produced stained glass in the 1870s and was responsible for the stained glass windows of at least nine Irish cathedrals, including Carlow, Waterford and Letterkenny] and was, therefore, cheaper.

    Bird Flanagan goes on to tell stories of renowned stained glass artists such as Evie Hone and Harry Clarke from the 1920s, as well as his interest in members of An Túr Gloine, the Irish stained glass cooperative which was formed around that time.

    However, despite his interest in religious artefacts, he has been careful to keep his work separate from his home life – at least after some gentle prompting. ‘‘I used to have a lot of items at home, but I’ve been told to minimalise. My wife told me to cut down on this sort of stuff as I have two children, so you can’t really have this sort of thing lying around,” he laughs.

    Having spent many years travelling throughout Britain, Ireland and continental Europe sourcing items, Bird Flanagan now sources most of his stock in Ireland, travelling around the country on foraging missions at least twice a week.

    The Dublin native has also become something of a curator of religious vestments and is keen to build upon his collection of ecclesiastical garments. ‘‘Having worked with a lot of churches and convents over the years, it was a natural progression to begin collecting the vestments of the religious who had worked there.

    ‘‘People used to donate their wedding dresses to the church and the nuns would make vestments of them, using the lace. These ‘patchwork’ vestments are generally of inferior quality to the vestments produced by specialist manufacturers such as Bull and Clerys. I collected them for years while I was going around acquiring different pieces; there were so many of them. Now the pieces I have are the most high-quality pieces.”

    Bird Flanagan sells hand and machine-embroidered vestments in the Gothic (draped-style) and the Roman style (poncho-style chasuble).The vestments are stunning for the most part, featuring intricate hand-embroidered motifs in metallic threads, heavy fringing and beautiful antique fabrics.

    ‘‘You have to have good sets for priests to buy. People sometimes frame them, too, as they are of exquisite workmanship. You can make new vestments, but you’re never going to get the same quality as the old vestments, with their beautiful damask and handmade lace and embroidery,” he says.

    The vestments sell for anything from €100 up to €2,000 for a high Mass set of impeccable quality used during the Tridentine or Traditional Latin Mass.

    Despite having other business concerns, this is where Bird Flanagan is happiest, doing his job out of sheer love of the items, the craft that went into them and a deep respect for his customers. ‘‘This is my life as well as my job. Years ago, the arts weren’t funded, so talented artists, rather than working on their own projects, would have put a lot of time into religious art – sculpture, paintings and vestments.

    ‘‘The religious orders commissioned a lot of work and I believe that my collection is that of the best work carried out by the best unknown or unsung artists.”

    Irish Vestments – Vestments, Religious and Ecclesiastical Items is at 31B South Richmond Street, Dublin 2. See http://www.irishvestments.com or tel:01-4784245

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    Harry Clarke.net

    At last someone has had the good thinking of putting together a website solely dedicated to the stained glass work of the genius that was Harry Clarke.
    Harry Clarke.net will be officially online in May 2010 with Photos by Michael Cullen.
    http://www.harryclarke.net/glass/index.html

    They’ve also collaborated on a New Book on the subject, Harry Clarke ‘Strangest Genius’ by Lucy Costigan & Michael Cullen.

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    Harry Clarke (1889 to 1931) was undoubtedly Ireland’s greatest stained glass artist. During his short life Harry created stained glass windows for churches, private dwellings and commercial venues throughout Ireland and England, and as far a field as the USA and Australia. Also an illustrator of books for Harrap and Co. in London, Harry illustrated five books that show his undoubted genius in the area of graphic art.

    In total 160 windows, and a small number of panels, were created by Harry Clarke. This book is unique in that it contains the entire stained glass collection of Harry Clarke, including those windows now in art galleries. This collection has never before been photographed or published in its entirety. This publication will give those who are unfamiliar with the brilliance and originality of Clarke’s marvelous stained glass windows the opportunity to view images of his greatest creations, and perhaps in time to travel to see these wonders for themselves. (This book is available now for pre-order, and will be published on 1 May 2010)

    The above window is considered to be one of Harry Clarke’s early masterpieces entitled ‘The Adoration of the Sacred Heart’ 1919 St. Peter’s Phibsborough. It is a three light window depicting the Sacred Heart, St. Margaret Mary and St. John Eudes. It was commissioned by the Vincentian Fathers as St. Peter’s was home to the Arch-Confraternity of the Sacred Heart in Dublin. Further work was carried out in St. Peter’s in 1925 when Harry Clarke created the windows in the mortuary chapel.

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    St. Francis Xavier, Upper Gardiner Street.

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    The Jesuit Church of St. Francis Xavier, Upper Gardiner Street, was the first Catholic Church erected in Dublin following the passing of the Catholic Emancipation Act in 1829. Its predecessor at 30 Hardwicke Street was opened in 1816 by Fr. Charles Aylmer SJ, the first public chapel of the restored Society of Jesus. The four founders of the Church of SFX – Peter Kenny, Bartholomew Esmonde, Charles Aylmer and Archbishop Daniel Murray – received their early education in the school for the classics founded in 1750 by the Jesuits in Saul’s Court, off Fishamble St.With a design based on that of the church of the Gesu in Rome, the mother church of the Jesuits, Gardiner St church opened to the faithful on 3 May 1832, when Archbishop Murray celebrated the first Mass on a temporary altar. The foundation stone had been laid on 2 July 1829 by Fr. Charles Aylmer. On 12 February 1835, the church was solemnly blessed by the Archbishop in presence of 14 bishops and large congregation. The church when opened was 135’ long. It was extended in 1838 (at which time new High Altar was under construction in Rome), and in 1850 the sanctuary was extended by 25’, and a semicircular apse built which moved High Altar further back. The High Altar, 25’ high, is of an enriched classical Corinthian Order with 4 green scagliola columns. It was designed and assembled in Rome by Fr. B. Esmonde, while he was based at the Gesu, and who with Mr John B Keane was the architect of the church. It consists of many precious stones and marbles which include lapis lazuli in the drum over tabernacle with malachite inlay.

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    St Francis Xavier preaching in Japan ( oil on canvas) Over the high altar, by Bernardo Celantano. It is strange that the figrue of St Francis is over the high altar, as the crucifix is always the altar centre piece. however the Jesuits in the community overcame the dilemma by having Xavier pointing to the crucifix, thus appeasing the liturgists and allowing Fr Esmonde, the architect of the church and Superior, to have his way!

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    Furnishings:

    · Italinate portico is of Portland stone.

    · Pediment sculptures placed over portico in Fr. Nicholas Walsh’s time (1877-84) – Sacred Heart, St. Ignatius and St. Francis Xavier – attributed to Terence Farrell RHA

    · Pulpit of cast-iron with monogram of the Society of Jesus ‘HIS’ and gilded portrait heads of ‘Christ Crowned with Thorns’ and ‘Sorrowful Mother of Christ’

    · The organ has been rebuilt several times, always in original organ case. Theoriginal instrument was made by Flight & Robson (London) 1836. Jesuits purchased it for 800 guineas.

    · Sculptures in Transepts: ‘Jesus in Garden of Olives’, made by French sculptor Jacques Augustin Dieudonne in 1848

    · ‘Madonna and Child’ by Roman sculptor Ignazio Jacometti in 1881.

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    · Four oil paintings in nave attributed to Pietro Gagliardi (Rome) and were hung in church in Fr. Nicholas Walsh’s time as Rector (1877-84)

    Restorations 1877 (new roof); 1896 electricity installed (lit by gaslight before); 1932 redecorated. 1970 – extensive redecoration under Brendan Ellis, to comply with the liturgical norms and spirit of Vatican II, and a new altar table was erected in Cuban mahogany by William Hicks.

    Other minor restorations and structural works done in 1974, 1983,1989 and 1990s.

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    The Taking of Christ by Caravaggio. This is the missing Caravaggio thought to be lost for some 200 years, the unsuspected masterpiece hung in benign neglect over the fireplace in the Jesuits’ dining room in Leeson Street. It makes you wonder how many other ‘lost’ masterpiece’s might be out there? & begs the question. .What other major works of art do we actually know about or are cataloged as such in our many Church’s & Cathedral’s across Ireland?

    There are seven figures in the painting, from left to right: St John, Jesus, Judas, two soldiers, a man (a self-portrait of Caravaggio), and a soldier. They are standing, and only the upper three-quarters of their bodies are depicted. The figures are arrayed before a very dark background, in which the setting is disguised. The main light source is not evident in the painting but comes from the upper left. There is a lantern being held by the man at the right (Caravaggio). At the far left, a man (St John) is fleeing; his arms are raised, his mouth is open in a gasp, his cloak is flying and being snatched back by a soldier.

    By the late 18th century, the painting was thought to have disappeared, and its whereabouts remained unknown for about 200 years. In 1990, Caravaggio’s lost masterpiece was recognized in the residence of the Society of Jesus in Dublin, Ireland. The exciting rediscovery was published in 1993.

    The painting had been hanging in the Dublin Jesuits’ dining room since the early 1930s but had long been considered a copy of the lost original by Gerard van Honthorst, also known as Gherardo delle Notti, one of Caravaggio’s Dutch followers. This erroneous attribution had been made while the painting was in the possession of the Roman Mattei family, whose ancestors had originally commissioned it. In 1802, the Mattei sold it, as a work by Honthorst, to William Hamilton Nisbet, in whose home in Scotland it hung until 1921. Later in that decade, still unrecognised for what it was, the painting was sold to an Irish pediatrician, Marie Lea-Wilson, who eventually donated it in 1934 to the Jesuit Fathers in Dublin, in gratitude for their support following the murder of her husband, Capt. Percival Lea-Wilson, a District Inspector in the Royal Irish Constabulary in Gorey, County Wexford, by the Irish Republican Army on 15 June 1920.

    The Taking of Christ remained in the Dublin Jesuits’ possession for about 60 years, until it was spotted and recognised as at least an old copy of a Caravaggio, in the early 1990s, by Sergio Benedetti, Senior Conservator of the National Gallery of Ireland, while he was visiting the Jesuit Fathers in order to examine a number of paintings for the purposes of restoration. As layers of dirt and discoloured varnish were removed, the high technical quality of the painting was revealed, and it was tentatively identified as Caravaggio’s lost painting. Much of the credit for verifying the authenticity of this painting belongs to Francesca Cappelletti and Laura Testa, two graduate students at the University of Rome. During a long period of research, they found the first recorded mention of The Taking of Christ, in an ancient and decaying account book documenting the original commission and payments to Caravaggio, in the archives of the Mattei family, kept in the cellar of a palazzo in the small town of Recanati.

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773805
    apelles
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    Review of ‘The Sacred Made Real’ at the National Gallery of Art. Sunday, February 28, 2010
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    Before he started work on a religious piece, the Spanish sculptor Gregorio Fernández would pray, fast and repent for his sins — and practice some self-flagellation. When his statue of a naked, beaten Jesus was put up in a parish church around 1621, it was agreed that 15 masses would mention the artist’s name each year, forever, to cut his time in purgatory. Working on the piece, the artist made sure that every inch of it, even the parts in back no one might ever see, did an equally good job of capturing Christ’s bruised and bloodied skin. Fernández so cherished the reality and truth of Christ’s embodiment in flesh that he made his naked Jesus anatomically correct, even though he immediately hid that correctness, forever, under a glue-hardened loincloth.
    Fernández must have believed in the worth of his art, as art. But it was the things his art pointed to that made it worth making at all. A sculpture could never grant you a parole from limbo; only the divinity it showed could do you that favor.
    When we modern museum-goers admire a certain kind of old religious art for what it looks like, I think we get it wrong. Its look only helps it point to a reality beyond its surfaces, which counted as infinitely more important than the work of art itself.
    “The Sacred Made Real: Spanish Painting and Sculpture, 1600-1700,” a groundbreaking exhibition that just touched down at the National Gallery of Art, should help us get back to this older and very different artistic understanding. If it does, this touring show, organized by curator Xavier Bray of the National Gallery in London, will turn out to have been one of the most substantial, important events our Washington museum has hosted. (In London, the show was a sleeper hit. Bray says they were expecting something like 25,000 aficionados. Instead they got four times that many visitors, including at one point “four punks and 50 nuns, intermingling.”)

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    “The Sacred Made Real” gives us an important push away from our modern tendency to value painting over any other medium. Well into the Middle Ages and beyond, painting was the poor stepchild of deluxe, more durable materials such as tapestry or metal or marble. In 17th-century Spain, the balance had already shifted to make 3-D and 2-D art about equal, but while Spanish painters such as Diego Velázquez and Francisco de Zurbarán are now famous figures, before this show, their sculptor colleagues have never got equal time.
    The exhibition also gets us away from our strange notion that great Old Master paintings should be fully colored and highly realistic, whereas classic sculpture, to count as art rather than kitsch, needs to be all white or wood- or bronze-colored, like statues from ancient Greece and Rome. (Which were once fully colored, anyway, but lost their paint over the millennia.) In fact, until quite recent times, uncolored sculpture has been the exception rather than the rule in Western art. In baroque Spain, specialist “polychromers” were still paid to take a sculptor’s carvings and meticulously paint them to resemble scenes from life. Putting the color back into sculpture, says Bray, is “one of the big aims of this show.”

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    This show’s colorful art includes hideous gore, heart-wrenching pathos and lots of frankly histrionic emotion. Yet the problem isn’t that these works press too many buttons, too hard. It’s that for your average secular art lover, their subjects themselves don’t have the heft that they once did, and that risks leaving us distracted by aesthetics. In fact, however, this is a moment when the features that we modern aesthetes count as most “artistic” in a figurative work, such as medium, scale, finish and pose, could count as almost incidental.
    In 17th-century Spain, a single saint or holy man could, for instance, be equally well commemorated in carved wood or painted canvas. In this show, there’s a highly realistic sculpture of a Jesuit named Francis Borgia, made to celebrate the priest’s beatification in 1624. It was carved by the master sculptor Juan Martínez Montañés and then colored by the painter Francisco Pacheco, who taught Velázquez and others. And that sculpture is almost perfectly matched by a deluxe painting of the same figure, from the same year, at the same size, by a talented Pacheco student named Alonso Cano. If a work of art brings viewers close to their hero, it’s almost as though it doesn’t matter what material it’s made from.
    Scale could also matter much less than it does now. In this show, Zurbarán’s boldly painted canvas of a standing Saint Francis of Assisi, from around 1640, shows the friar large as life. Twenty years later, Pedro de Mena made a fastidiously carved and colored version of the same figure in precisely the same pose but at about half-size, crafted with a hobby-shop accuracy that includes glass eyeballs and real human hair for eyelashes. The similarities between the painting and the sculpture — the shared access that they give us to the holy man — might once have mattered infinitely more than their differences in size and technique. All this is hard to grasp for 21st-century art lovers, trained to believe that the God of art is in the smallest of observable details.

    Seventeenth-century thinkers and mystics such as John of the Cross, a Spaniard who was himself apprenticed in a sculptor’s shop, emphasized the importance of realistic art in encouraging religion — but only so long as it was very clear that all worth resided in the subject of the image, not in the object itself.
    One canvas by Zurbarán is almost an illustration of the equivalence of painting and sculpture — as though by deliberately confusing the two mediums, it can force us to fall back on the reality behind them both. The small oil we now call “Saint Luke Contemplating the Crucifixion” shows a painter equipped with palette and brushes — is he in fact Saint Luke, who was said to have been a painter, or Zurbarán himself? — gazing at Jesus hanging on the cross. Or is the artist contemplating a colored sculpture of that subject, perhaps one that he’s just polychromed? The National Gallery has hung a real polychromed crucifix beside Zurbarán’s picture; it is so nearly identical in scale and look to the cross in the painting that you have to imagine that Spanish viewers, surrounded by such objects in their daily lives, would have seen one in this painting. Or maybe what Zurbaran is actually showing us is a proud artist standing in front of a painting of his crucified Lord — there are hints that the head of Zurbarán’s brush-wielding figure is casting shadows onto the skyscape behind him, as though it’s a painted surface right nearby rather than an open space in the distance. It certainly makes more sense to imagine a painter holding paint-filled brushes in front of one of his works than outside on Mount Golgotha. I don’t think Zurbaran wants us to choose between one or another of these readings. He wants us to acknowledge how fraught art is, compared to the certainties of religious truth and faith that are the real subject of his work.
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    In Spain circa 1650, two works might present a single sacred subject in quite different ways, with the same figures shown in varied poses or viewed from one side rather than another, and yet these different versions might count as being pretty much the same, and as equally successful art. In this show, look at how the painting that Velázquez did around 1628 of Christ collapsed after his flagellation seems to give Jesus precisely the same face as Fernández did, at the start of that decade, in his gory sculpture of the beaten, nearly naked Jesus standing. It’s almost as though we’re seeing the same scene, but at a slightly different moment, from a somewhat different angle, and just by chance in two dimensions rather than three. (The angel and Christian child that Velázquez shows looking at their tortured savior could almost be us, contemplating Fernández’s statue. As Bray points out in his informative catalogue, Velázquez decorously allows them to see a bleeding back that the art of painting lets him turn away from us. A sculptor didn’t have that option for controlling our viewpoint.)
    Sometimes the details with the least artistic significance might make the biggest difference between two works. Today, we might be tempted to see a stunningly three-dimensional painting of the crucified Christ, done by Zurbarán in 1627 and praised in its day for looking so much like a sculpture, as very close kin to a quite similarly posed and colored carving of the same subject, made by the great master Montañés in 1617, which hangs beside it in this show. In fact, however, for an observer who cared, one tiny detail might have made them count as almost contradictory images: The painting shows Christ’s feet crucified with separate nails, while the sculpture drives a single nail through both, an issue of “accuracy” fiercely debated at the time among both artists and priests.

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    As evidence for the one-nail-per-foot thesis, the painter Pacheco himself cited a 9th-century silver crucifix that had once belonged to Charlemagne, as well as a medieval Italian image that in Pacheco’s day was still thought to have been carved around the time of Christ, by the artist-apostle Saint Luke. That means that we might want to think of Zurbarán’s fine painting as having more in common, in important ways, with those crude and vastly older objects than it had with an almost look-alike sculpture done just a few years earlier. Though separated by centuries, three very different looking works point to the same “reality” of a savior crucified using four nails, rather than to a different, perhaps faulty, version of the truth where three nails were all he got.

    The Sacred Made Real: Spanish Painting and Sculpture, 1600-1700 runs through May 31 in the East Building of the National Gallery of Art, on the north side of the Mall at Fourth Street NW.

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773801
    apelles
    Participant

    Yeah, well there’s definitely some very delusional people out there!

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773798
    apelles
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    St. Henry, Ohio. Architect J. Anton Decurtins. Construction was finished in 1897.

    Then the disaster struck. . The seventies, a seriously bad decade for Church makeovers & hairstyles.:eek:

    I know, lets just dump this organ where the reredos used to be. . no one ‘ll notice.

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773797
    apelles
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    I hadn’t seen that on here before Samuel. . BTW if you copy the Embed code next to a video & paste that into your post then the video itself appears in the post. . saves viewers leaving the page.

    apelles
    Participant

    There’s lots of excellent photographs of Aschaffenburg & the cloisters on this database.http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid4/europe.0602/germany/aschaffenburg/stiftskirche/

    I recognized the door surround instantly from gunters sketch. Problem is when you use the insert image URL here it brings in a massive full size file so I re-sized this one, so as not to block up the page.

    apelles
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    Bishop Colm O’Reilly tells the Longford Leader that it could be 2012 before construction begins on St Mel’s Cathedral in Longford. He also discusses the responce of the clerical abuse survivors groups to the outcome of the Irish Bishops’ summit with the Pope in Rome.

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