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- April 30, 2005 at 12:28 am in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #753067
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ParticipantInteresting thread. Limerick deserves to feature here more. Limerick has turned to face the shannon quite successfully over the last 15 years or so.
On the downside Georgian buildings badly disfigured by the pvc window plague. Traffic seems terrible. Hardly a bus lane or a cycle lane anywhere, even around the university!!
THe crime thing seems to have calmed down for the time being so that’s one thing. Limerick’s image problem is not a new thing but in some ways its lack of pretence and Blarney/Temple bar nonsence is quite refreshing. It’s a real place!
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Participantsurely the main problem is that douuble glazing is seen as progress and not to have it is seen as backward.
A lady doing a survey came to my house a few years ago and asked me if I had a tv/PC, phone, dishwasher AND double glazing. I’m sure I got a point for each one. I wonder if I lived in Georgian house with original sashes would I have lost a mark for this.
A lot of 1950’/60s primary schools had big tall sash windows and a lot of them have been pvcd recenmtly. They were draughty though an usually poorly maintained.
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ParticipantLads, this what joe soap wants and only the Green party objected and believe me the government can live with that.
Of course its still disgraceful. This was announced before the local elections and it didn’t do FF much good that time.
It’s crazy that beautiful places on the western seaboard are being ruined when tourism is the obvious future for these places.
At least if people are going to build in the countryside then they should be properly designed. But that would be too proscriptive!
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Participant@keeneye wrote:
Lexington,
Do you know if there is any plans in the pipeline to “do up” the last untouched hugenot burial ground in Cork City ,on careys lane.. There was plans to develop on it but objections came in, in the hundred even from afar.. I heard that there is money set aside by the cork corporation to make it an tourist attraction but ..?? Monica Johns clothing shop currently owns it ( Located on French Church St. opposite) but can do ZERO with it because it is listed.. see some old photos from 1920s i think..
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/show_narrative_page_by_place.do?page_id=2636
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/show_narrative_page_by_place.do?page_id=2637
🙂 You would think with Cork 2005 City of Culture, they might of used the money avaiable to make it an attraction..
God, turning a grave yard into a tourist attraction doesn’t seem very dignified. Maybe you just have an awkward turn of phrase. The one in Dublin has been restored and I’m sure it’s an interesting place to visit esp. for people of huegenot descent. If it is to be restored can we not just do it because its the right thing to do and not because we need to commodify another part of our heritage. Rant over.
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ParticipantIf most of Mountjoy’s inmate are from Dublin’s inner city, and I’m led to believe they are, surely putting it some place with little or no public transport links will hugely inconvenience families visiting etc. Whatever about the criminals being locked up, what about the families and kids? These people are some of the poorest and most marginalised in the country so obviuosly MacDool doesn’t give a shit about them.
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Participant“Dept of the Taoiseach near Merrion Square”
A pastiche building if ever there was one, early 20th century too
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Participantwhat’s the plan for the old dundrum shopping centre?
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Participant@lexington wrote:
Its utterly disgraceful – I genuinely genuinely hope OCP trump this one.
Bridget Healy has appealed on behalf of the Sunday’s Well Group (the ‘children’s allowance’ crowd), however, a member of that group also happens to be chair of the Lancaster Quay Business Association, for which she plans to lodge another appeal. The is a seperate private appeal. The Dept. of Archaelogy at UCC who are appealling – which has a lot more to do with a disgruntled response to OCP than genuine opposition to the development (long storey – OCP decided if any, they wanted private archaelogical assessments of ‘a’ particular development site, and UCC got miffed), then the Dean of St. Fin Barre’s is opposed because he believes the development will detract from the Lancaster Quay -> St. Fin Barre’s vista (what vista??? But either way, OCP designed the project so that the buildings were positioned to allow unobstructed views (granted between buildings) from Lancaster Quay -which will in effect create a better view than what is currently in existence). I’ve no problem with genuine appeal – if a resident across the street is being messed by a developer, they have every right to appeal. But what gets me on this one is these appeals (with the exception of 1) are all motive driven and petty.
OCP will be contesting.
It’s called democracy I suppose. Maybe it will detract from the view of St. Fin Barre’s. Let the experts decide! (ABP).
Anyway you seem very gung ho about all the development in Cork, even Mahon Point which I doubt has much in the way of architectural merit. My point is not all development is necessarily a good ting in itself. If the scheme is wrong maybe it’s better it gets knocked back, the next one that comes along may be better.anto
ParticipantIs the area well served by public transport?
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Participanttry this for a list of alternative events
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Participantisn’t it true that the architects have ignored the suburbs untill recently which is a shame as it’s where a lot of people live. Often hear that it’s quicker now to get from some commuter town in Kildare into town than it is from say Rathfarnam, How do we remedy this? Build a metro? not going to happen soon is it?
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ParticipantCan’t you just give Jakie Healy Rae a call ?
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Participantoften thought a bit more tree planting on the quays in Cork might be in order. Not great big Plane trees but something more suitable. Might be useful to hide stuff like Merchants Quay. Speaking of the Quays, the Gate Cinema was quite good but the apartments just above them are pretty dissapointing
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Participant@mickeydocs wrote:
Hey Anto, CCC are currently working on a river/quayside walk that will link the city centre to the lee fields.
There are also plans in progress to develop cycle paths all along the quays.
Sounds good, Lee fields is fantastic green lung that almost comes into the city. Are they pinching some land off Pres, the Criket club, the Mardyke etc. Or a kinda boardwalk along side them? Good to hear they’re investing in cycle lanes too. Cork will be like Amsterdam, has the water, bridges all it’s missing is the bucycles and the Coffee shops
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ParticipantMaybe when the Main drainage scheme is finished (when?) the Lee will become more attractive, it won’t be the open sewer it was heretofore. No wonder Cork turned its back on the river!
It’s true that money needs to be spent on the Quays, look at the Campshire in Dublin for example. There was some plan for a wallk to link the quays to Fitzgerald park at one stage. Unfortunately some of the heavisest traffic goes along the Quays, probably worse since some was taken off Patricks street. I wonder has the amount of traffic coming into the city fallen since the tunnel was built, as was promised and no doubt those pushing the new orbital route are promising the same. Some how i doubt it. Probaly more suburbanites driving in.
Cork needs to spend more upgrading the quays and putting in more cycle lanes. There wasn’t many of these when i lived there (2000)a ny more since? But does it have the money?
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ParticipantThis is a device for opening up more land for development , suburban car dependent suburban bliss. This money would be far better spent on public transport, How many bus lane does Cork have? Does Cork have any light rail/dart? Engineers love to imagine orbital routes as if it will solve everything. Remember road building usually brings more traffic not less
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Participantis that Bond restaurant still there. never thought it fitted in that well.
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Participant@mickeydocs wrote:
what’s the building in front of the fire station?
300 car parking spaces, that sounds very environmentally friendly, isn’t there already a multi storey beside it
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ParticipantGod, does any development in Douglas deserve to be on an Architeture web site. The place is an architectural waste land!!
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ParticipantI croosed the hay’ penny bridge in Dublin at the weekend, God, it’s destroyed with chewing gum already. Never seen such a concentration of the stuff. I presume this wasn’t there afte its reopening a few years ago
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