Andrew Duffy
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- January 14, 2005 at 10:12 am in reply to: Application to demolish rare Protected Structure, Enniscorthy #749441
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThis kind of thing, and the relentless crusade against poor-quality one-off houses, are what I admire An Taisce for. Appealing against tall, and not so tall, buildings solely on the basis of height undermines that good work.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe planning application summary mentions the link road.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe tallest building is actually 12 storeys.
Reg. Ref.: D04A/1546
Application Rec’d Date: 23-Dec-2004
Applicant Name & Address: Knockrabo Developments Limited Taylors Three Rock, Grange Road, Rathfarnham, Dublin 16.
Location: Knockrabo, Mount Annville Road, Dublin 14Proposal:
The development on a 3.10 ha site will consist of (1) The development of 369 units in total (330 no. apartments, 34 no. duplex apartments and 5 no. townhouses) in 8 blocks ranging in height between 2 to 12 storeys (2) The provision of a total of 538 no. car parking spaces (520 no. in basements and 18 on surface) and 429 no. bicycle parking spaces. (3) The provision of 246 sq.m. creche and a353 sq.m. fitness facility within one of the proposed blocks. (4) The construction of a new access from Mount Anville Road to serve the proposed development pending the construction of the Sandyford – St. Helen’s Link motorway. (5) The use of the existing access from Mount Annville Road through the entrance gate and wing walls (Protected Structure) as the vehicular access to the proposed creche. (6) The provision of foul and surface water outfall sewers to the drainage for a proposed housing development adjacent to the northwest corner of the site between the housing along Heldelberg Road and Hollywood Drive and all other site infrastructure works above and below ground and landscaping required to facilitate the proposed development will be within the curtilage of a gate lodge and entrance gates and piers (to the former Knockrabo House) which are protected structures. An Environmental Impact Statement will be submitted to the Planning Authority.Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThis was recently refused by DCC, but apparently the reason is due to the massing of the three large 14 storey buildings rather than the 28 storey tower.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2005/0105/3977786659HM7SKYSCRAPER.html

Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThis scheme was recently approved after an appeal against its original approval.
http://www.pleanala.ie/cse/208/a208365.htm
Notable things from the report, if you don’t have the time:
– The tower is 71m high, with a 20m antenna on top of it
– The IGS appealed to ensure the pale ditch was unaffected
– An Taisce appealed solely based upon the height of the tower
– The developer is required to provide a dedicated bus service between the development and the Sandyford Luas stop until two months after the extension to Cherrywood opens
– ABP disregarded the observer’s recommendation that the tower be made more slenderAndrew Duffy
Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
squat mid-risers like these
Whilst the George’s Quay and Tara St. Station buildings fit that description, I don’t think a modern 28 storey apartment building does. I also doubt if Dublin land prices will ever reach the levels required to make significantly taller buildings viable.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantI like the idea of a tall building there, because it would make a nice cluster with the building off George’s Quay and the proposed Tara St. train station. However, I can’t find any reference to the competition here or on the DDDA website. I can’t think of anywhere in the real world to find out about things like that.
Andrew Duffy
Participant“Hear hear!” he said, in a poor impression of a member of parliament.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThis isn’t related, but I’m not starting a new thread called “Spencer Dock”. There’s some text and renderings of the 4.5Bn blandness that will be built around the dock here:
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1304278&issue_id=11812
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantRecently, less than you’d think. These come to mind:
Westgate near Heuston Station aparently had it’s tallest building, a 13 storey office tower, removed following consulation with palnners. However, the other half of the overall development was recently approved by DCC and contains a 32 storey apartment tower.
Gannon Homes had a 12 storey apartment tower removed from a housing development in Donaghmede.
Partenay’s 26 storey mixed-use tower in Donnybrook was refused by DCC.
Fabrizia Developments applied for permission for a large mixed-use development on Southbank road over four years ago, but in the absence of a decision by DCC has reapplied with a similar proposal, minus the thirty storey office tower.
Fusano Properties’ Smithfield Market is currently under construction with a 13 storey apartment tower at its centre. The foundations for this building reflect its originally approved height of 20 storeys (http://homepage.eircom.net/~istructeroi/news/news16/smithfield16.htm)
edit: It’s not a tall building, but the Wejcherts-designed Gaiety Centre has been approved by DCC for the second time, less two storeys, after a successful appeal against the original permission.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantI agree entirely with Diaspora.
It was oddly difficult to type that.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantScanned image attached. Notice that this other Treasury development is in the background, although I can’t find a planning application for it.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantI’m pretty sure there’s a pedestrian bridge being built that will go between the quays, rougly in the middle of the new boardwalk extension.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantUntil the office market picks up, I assume. Tara St. Station badly needs attention though – it’s a death trap.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantA bit of confusion in that post – Dunloe Ewart’s permission is for a twenty storey building, and it is indeed from O’Muire Smyth. Fabrizia have had an application under consideration for four years for a huge OMP designed development in Ringsend with a thirty storey office building, but the bizarre amount of time it has taken for a decision seems to have encouraged the developer to lodge another application, minus the tower, for the same site. The original application hasn’t been withdrawn. Finally, the Office of Public Works is awaiting a decision on a large Paul Keogh designed development with a thirty two storey residential building near Heuston station.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantAll entrances to the existing boardwalk were closed last night, with some stonework removed from the quay walls lying by the Millennium Bridge, Any idea if there’s anything other than widening the entrances going on?
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe first article is very confusing. Is the apartment tower thirteen or ten storeys?
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantCan we see the renderings? It’s very well having planning and An Taisce consultants talking about buildings here, but people who work 9-5 can’t go to the planning office to look at an application.
November 18, 2004 at 11:36 am in reply to: Irish Rail proposes Heuston to Connolly tunnel link #748353Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe development plan for the area sees it as a possible ticket hall, but it will be some way away from the actual surface station. Since Treasury Holdings is designing & building the station, I suppose someone here with contacts could ask them?
November 11, 2004 at 7:29 pm in reply to: Dublin Transportation Seminar in Trinity College 10th November #748245Andrew Duffy
ParticipantSo, what route is the tram to take through Trinity? And is it what the RPA will apply for or just the wishes of the Council?
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