Andrew Duffy
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The Poolbeg chimney stacks are 207m tall; that would fit 45-50 office floors or 60-65 residential floors.
The twelve-storey building in Smithfield is not a high rise except in the loosest terms of the word
I know – just pointing out the unusual inaccuracies in the article. The article suggests that the recent dramatic increase in height of proposed and approved buildings in the city hasn’t happened, and that the only remotely tall buildings are Liberty Hall and in Ballymun.
is the plant section really 4m in height
No; I don’t know the height above ground for the plany room. The AOD height was in the Tara St. Station appeal report.
do you know if the Leisureplex will be demolished to make way for the Stillorgan tower?
Yes, and it will be rebuilt:
For a mixed use development on a site comprising the Stillorgan Bowl Leisureplex No.’s 62-79 St. Laurence’s Park, the existing Stillorgan Public Library and adjoining Council owned land, which is the subject of a sale agreement with Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council and also an ancillary area of Council owned land where environmental improvement works and traffic management works are proposed. The subject site comprises 1.59 hectares bounded by St. Laurence’s Park to the North, Lower Kilmacud Road to the South, N11 Stillorgan Road to the East and Old Dublin Road to the West.
The proposed development involves the demolition of all existing structures on the site including the Leisureplex building Dun Laoghaire Rathtdown County Council temporary library building, No. 62 and 63 St. Laurence’s Park and 16 two-storey Local Authority maisonette units at No. 64-79 St. Laurence’s Park.
The proposed development is a mixed-use scheme comprising a total of 314 No. residential units (82 no. 1-bed, 199 no. 2-bed and 33 no. 3-bed and includes 40 no. social housing units and 8 no. live/work units); approx 2,238 sq.m. gross floor area retail; approx. 3,938 sq.m. gross floor area offices; approx. 3,719 sq.m. gross floor area (indoor) leisure/recreational facilities (Class 11(e) use); approx. 486 sq.m. gross floor area crèche; approx. 1,019 sq.m. gross floor area new public library and ancillary car parking with associated landscaping and site development works. The overall development will consist of approx. 40,349 sq.m. gross floor area overall in 15 No. mixed use blocks (Blocks A,B,C, D, E, F, G, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P) as follows:-
Block A : 5-storey over double basement – comprising c.2,091 sq.m. double height leisure/recreational facility (Class 11(e) use) at basement level c. 792 sq.m. retail at ground floor level and 4 No. office units with combined gross floor area c. 3,938 sq.m. over four floors above.
Blocks B, C, D, E & F : 7 storey over double basement comprising c. 1,628 sq.m. leisure/recreational facility (Class 11(e) use) at upper basement level, 5 No. retail units at ground floor level (combined gross floor area c. 1,183 sq.m.) with 80 No. apartments in total over four upper floors plus two additional levels of setback penthouses: each block comprising 16 No. apartments in the form of 5 No. 1-bed units, 10 No. 2-bed units and 1 No. 3-bed setback detached penthouse unit.
Block G : 6/8 storey atrium building – comprising c. 1,019 sq.m. public library at upper ground floor level, 71 No. apartments comprising 6 No. 2-bed duplex units at lower ground floor level and 65 No. units from lower ground floor to sixth floor level in the form of 19 No. 1-bed duplex units, 1 No. 2-bed unit, 44 No. 2 bed duplex units and 1 No. 3-bed duplex unit.
Block I : 15- storey corner building (at junction of Lower Kilmacud Road and N11 Stillorgan Road) comprising c. 263 sq.m. ground floor (part double height) retail and 34 No. units which includes 1 No. ground floor 2 – bed duplex live/work unit and 33 No. apartments over thirteen floors comprising 30 No. 2-bed units and 3 No. 3-bed setback duplex penthouses.
Blocks J, K and L : 8 – storey comprising 51 No. units which includes 6 No. 2-bed live/work duplex units over ground and first floor level and 45 No. apartments over four upper floors plus two additional levels of setback penthouses, in the form of 12 No. 1-bed units, 18 No. 2-bed units, 6 No. 3-bed units, 6 No. 3-bed setback penthouses and 3 No. 3-bed setback detached penthouses.
Block M : 7 storey – comprising 15 No. units which includes 1 No. 2 bed live/work duplex unit over ground and first floor level and 14 No. apartments over four upper floors plus one additional level with setback penthouse, in the form of 4 No. 1-bed units, 7 no. 2-bed units, 2 No. 3-bed units and 1 No. 3-bed setback detached penthouse.
Blocks N & O: 7 Рstorey and 6 Рstorey respectively Рcomprising c. 486 sq.m. gross floor area cr̬che across ground floor level and 29 No. apartments over upper floors comprising 8 No. 1-bed units, 16 No. 2 Рbed units and 4 No. 3 Рbed units over five upper floors and 1 No. 3-bed setback detached penthouse on Block N.
Block P : 3-storey social housing – comprising 34 No. apartments in three separate blocks in the form of 14 No. 1-bed apartments and 2 No. 2-bed apartments at ground floor level and 17 No. 2 bed duplex units and 1 No. 3 – bed duplex unit over first and second floors.
The proposed development includes a total of 528 No. car parking spaces with 478 No. car parking spaces and bin storage facilities over two basement levels, 23 No. car parking spaces in service yard and 27 No. surface car parking spaces; 360 No. bicycle parking spaces at basement and surface levels; service yard to the rear of Block A at upper ground floor level and service yard to rear of Blocks B-D at lower ground floor level; children’s play area; landscaping works across the site including hard and soft landscaping and tree planting and new boundary treatment along the Lower Kilmacud Road and N11 Stillorgan Road: all associated site development works including a single storey ESB substation and security building (c. 23 sq.m.) in the northeast corner of the site, a second ESB substation at ground floor level in Block N and a new roundabout junction at St. Laurence’s Park to facilitate vehicular access to the site.
Vehicular access to the development will be via the existing entrance points at the Dublin Road and St. Laurence’s Park with additional access to the social housing in Block P (34 No. units) and Block G (6 no. units) at St. Laurence’s Park. Pedestrian access to the site will be via a gated access at street level along the Lower Kilmacud Road and two points along St. Laurence’s Park.
An Environmental Impact Statement will be submitted to the Planning Authority with the Planning Application.
Liberty Hall is 59.4m from ground level to the roof of the observation level; the plant room on the top is 63.4m above seal level.
– The 32 story building on Barrow St. will be 108.25m above ground.
– The City Quay proposal seems to exist only on Shay Cleary’s website; if you know more I’d love to hear it.
– The U2 Landmark tower was never 25 stories, it was 19 or 20 depending on how the ground floor was configured. It may well be 25 stories when planning is applied for, however.
– Thanks for the info on Merchant’s Gate
– Santry Cross is 52m above ground
– Tara St. Station will be 15 stories and 60.8m above ground; it will reach 63.3m above sea level which is lower than Liberty Hall.Also:
– Gannon Homes has an application in for Balgriffin (6249/04) with residential buildings of 19 and 15 stories
– Green Property has an application in for a 17 storey, 60.8m hotel in Blanchardstown (F04A/1799)
– Glencairn Developments has a 17 storey proposal (D04A/1115) for the Murphystown Road
– The Airport City Partnership has applied for a 16 storey hotel in Clonshaugh (F04A/1684)
– Florence Property & Chanterwork Property have applied for a 15 storey hotel in Clancy Barracks (6113/04, 6114/04)
– Stillorgan Enterprises Ltd. has applied for a 15 storey building on the site of the Leisureplex (D04A/1254)There’s an aerial pic here:
http://www.murrayolaoire.com/urban/projects/dublin_docklands/index.html
It was very big.
Unfortunately the disproportionate use of force by Gardaà against middle-class twentysomethings at the reclaim the streets rally several years ago has led to a severe reluctance to use nightsticks. How many verbal warnings do you think are appropriate before an ERT should use his baton? I’d say three.
The Coombe Relief Road has an actual name – it’s on the new edition of the OS map. I can’t remember it.
Irish Rail is currently upgrading the line from Hazelhatch to Heuston by extending it to four tracks, building new stations, relocating others and preparing for electrificiation. It’s called the “Kildare Route Project” and is documented on the website. The effect of it will be dramatically improved commuter services and more reliable long-distance services.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2005/0303/4212052402HM6DONNYBROOK.html
Permission refused for 26-storey residential tower in Donnybrook
Fiona TyrrellA consortium headed by businessman Denis O’Brien has been refused permission to build a 26-storey residential tower in Donnybrook in Dublin.
Upholding a decision by Dublin City Council last September, An Bord Pleanála ruled the tower was excessive in height and scale.
Mr O’Brien’s Partenay Ltd appealed the council’s decision to refuse permission for the 87m (285ft) glazed cylindrical tower on the former BizQuip site, between the Garda station and the local fire station on the crescent and Donnybrook Road.
In its appeal, Partenay argued that the existing buildings on the site are “unsightly” and that the building would “mark a key point of identification or gateway into the city”.
The development would also revitalise the commercial centre of Donnybrook with a modern landmark building, according to the developers.
Minister for Justice Michael McDowell was among many objectors to express opposition to the tower. He urged his Dublin South East constituents to object to the development.
Objectors argued that the building would dwarf development in the vicinity and would damage the character and architecture of the area.
The planning board ruled on Tuesday that, despite design quality, the proposed building was on a restricted site in a primarily residential area of established character and would have failed to comply with policies on high-rise buildings.
“It is considered that the excessive height and scale of the proposed 26-storey glazed tower and four-storey podium building on this restricted site would result in an unduly prominent and overbearing form of development that would create overlooking and unduly detract from the established character, appearance and amenities of the area,” the board stated.
Designed by de Blacam and Meagher Architects, the €20 million residential and commercial building would have risen from a four-storey brick-clad base and double-basement car park. It was envisaged the tower would have 36 two-bedroom apartments, office and retail space, a gym and a roof garden.
© The Irish Times
Is the fact that the DDDA is talking to Liam Carroll, owner of the adjacent site, an indication that it realises the site footprint is too small? Also, if the site footprint and/or the shoulder height is changed, don’t other entrants now have a right to sue for the costs of entering the competition?
How was the original muck-up sorted out, or was it?the listed granite pavements
It is encouraging to see that the pavement has been carefully lifted and replaced with a temporary tarmac ramp for site access, rather than being destroyed by trucks like at every other site in the city.
You might want to take the “s” off “Customs”. Heuston Station has one or two broken lights at the moment which spoil it – you might be able to photoshop the picture though.
I don’t know. However, the RPA is a quango rather than a semi-state, so I imagine all of its funding is handled by central government. We should hear more about its funding soon anyway as the story about the money for electronic ticketing being spent already develops further.
Luas is not a private concern – Connex gets the same amount each year regardless of how much ticket revenue comes in. Connex is purely the operator; the state owns every bit of the infrastructure.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2005/0119/2281241960HM2KERRYPLAN.html
Mr Sheahan said An Taisce, too, had “overstepped its remit”.
“They will object to a one-off house, but a small distance away where there’s a big development, there will not be a word,” he said.
translation – “I have completely missed the point”.
Since the two don’t compete for anything except funds and passengers from the airport to the city centre, there’s not much point listing comparisons. However, the proposed metro line serves an area of the North city not served by the Dublin Rail Plan, and it is likely that the journey from O’Connell Street to the airport would be marginally faster than the journey from Connolly on the Dart. The metro really looks bad when you compare journey times from anywhere other than a station on the line – imagine how long it would take to get to the airport from Park West on train, tram and metro compared to a single-change train journey.
If you don’t like that building, you’ll hate this one:
Reg. Ref.: D04A/1417
Application Rec’d Date: 03-Dec-2004
Applicant Name & Address: Wexele Limited 9, Fitzwilliam Square, Dublin 2
Location: Former MJ Flood site at Junction of Blackthorn Avenue (and bounded to the west by Arkle Road and to the east by Blackthorn Road), Sandyford Industrial Estate, Dublin 18.Proposal:
The development will consist of a mixed use scheme of approx. 3,825 sq.m, gross floor area commercial floorspace, 259 no. apartments and 15 no. live-work units all in two blocks of predominately 7, 8 and 9 storeys around a central courtyard with a 24 storey tower element in one of the blocks (at the Blackthorn Road/Blackthorn Avenue junction). The 259 no. apartments comprise of 84 no. one bedroom units, 146 no. two bedroom units, and 29 no. three bedroom units, and have balconies on all facades of the proposed buildings including on the tower element. The apartments are provided at first floor to 22nd floor levels. The top floor (23rd floor) of the tower element comprises a winter garden. The 15 no. live – work units comprise of 14 no. one bedroom units and 1 no. two bedroom units and are at ground and first floor levels. The commercial element of the scheme comprises of approx. 1,734 sq.m of retail / restaurant / office use (alternative uses proposed to allow flexibility in implementation ) in 7 no. units at ground floor. One of these units (C08) is capable of being subdivided into a multiple number of smaller units accessed off a public mall. An approx. 274 sq.m. gym and an approx. 322 sq.m creche are proposed at first floor level. A Club cinema (approx. 210 sq.m) for use of residents is proposed at first basement level. The balance of the commercial floor space comprises of ‘work’ spaces within the Live-work units and circulation space within the commercial parts of the proposed blocks. Vehicular access to the site will be from two points on Arkle Road. One access will be for the ground floor car park below the central courtyard. Vehicles from this car park will also exit onto Arkle Road. A second access at the southern end of the site will provide access to a rear laneway for deliveries and emergency vehicles and also to a ramp to the underground car park. Traffic from these underground car parks and from the laneway will exit onto Blackthorn Road. A total of 338 car parking spaces will be provided (37 no. ground floor car park, 301 no. two-level basement car park). This application also proposes 348 no. bicycle spaces; open space in the form of a central courtyard, roof terraces, balconies and winter garden; site development and landscaping works. All on a site of some 0.67 hectares.
Get your facts straight. I have highlighted the actual height of the building and another relevant piece of information. Also, the permission is currently being appealed – the case number is 06D209655
Reg. Ref.: D04A/0200
Decision: GRANT PERMISSION
Decision Date: 28-Oct-2004
Applicant Name: Mark II Partnership
Applicant Address: The Warehouse, Barrow Street, Grand canal Docks, Dublin 2.
Location: Former Allegro Building, Carmanhall Road / Blackthorn Avenue, Sandyford Industrial Estate, Dublin 18.
Proposal:
Mixed use development on the Allegro Site, comprising:Demolition of all existing structures on site of 3.117 Hectares bounded by Blackthorn Drive to the west and north Microsoft Industrial Campus and Carmanhall Road to the south, an existing warehouse unit to the east, the construction of a mixed use development with vehicular access from Blackthorn Drive (west and north) and vehicular and pedestrian access from Carmanhall Road, comprising 144 residential apartments (128 no. two bedroom and 16 no. one bedroom), an apart hotel of 55 units, 5 retail warehouses, a health club, 7 neighbourhood shops, surface parking and a multilevel car park with a total of 1,026 parking spaces, with a total gross floor area of 44,119 m2 (gross internal floor area including plant) in structures of varying heights ranging from three storeys (height 10metres) to 11 storeys (height 39 metres) incorporating a four storey glazed atrium. These structures are comprised of the following elements.
1) A two storey (height 16.2 metres) structure comprising one retail warehouse (floor area 5,342 m2) at lower ground floor and one retail warehouse at first floor level including a garden centre (gross floor area 5,988 m2 ) to be accessed via the central atrium. All to be located on the eastern side of the site.
2) 3 no. retail warehouse units with a gross floor area of 3,469 m2 (comprising Unit C1 – 1,044.5 M2., Unit C2 – 1,004.5 m2, Unit C3 – 1,420 m2) at upper ground level, health club comprising 4,306 sq.m. at second floor level and 4 levels of residential accommodation above (giving a total of 80 no. units with 64 no. two bedroom and 16 no. one bedroom apartments, all with balconies) in three blocks of 8 storeys above lower ground floor car park (height 29.5 metres) with two roof terraces at fourth floor level, all to be located on the southern side of the site.
3) A structure fronting Blackthorn Drive comprising:
a) Car parking at surface level and a multi level car park at lower ground floor and part of upper ground and first floor levels comprising a total of 1,026 car parking spaces, all with roof terrace over and including ancillary bin storage and bicycle parking.
b) 7 Neighbourhood shops, of which 5 are two storey ( ranging from 214 m2 to 404 m2 in floor area giving a total floor area of 1,756 m2) fronting onto Blackthorn Drive at lower ground and upper ground level.
c) A residential apartment block comprising a total of 64 no. two bedroom units with balconies in a 9 storey story ( height – 31 metres) structure with all residential accommodation above first floor level and roof terraces at second floor level and sixth floor level.
d) An apart hotel with 55 no. units with balconies (51 no. two bedroom and 4 no. one bedroom) with access at ground floor from Blackthorn Drive, lobby/restaurant and bar at upper and first floor level (with a total floor area of 644 m2) in a single block of 7 storeys (height -25.5 metres) fronting Blackthorn Drive (and LUAS Line) rising to 11 storeys (height – 39 metres) to the north west corner of the site. All apart hotel units located above first floor level with roof terraces at sixth floor level and ninth floor level.
e) A central glazed atrium four storeys in height to link all structures.
4) A surface car park fronting Blackthorn Drive to the north and west of the site.
5) All site development works, landscaping and all ancillary works.
An environmental Impact Statement will be submitted to the Planning Authority with this Planning Application and will be available.
