Andrew Duffy
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Participanthttp://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2005/0615/breaking43.htm
State’s tallest building gets planning go-ahead
Luke CassidyPlanning permission has been granted for a 32-storey building in Dublin.
The building, which will be the State’s tallest, is part of a development planned by the Office of Public Works near Heuston Station at Kilmainham in Dublin.
An Board Pleanála gave the go-ahead for the developement this morning.
The proposed development includes 197 residential units, offices, a museum building, a health club, restaurants, a pub, a childcare facility, an educational facility and an observation desk.
The lowest three floors of the 32-storey building will be used as a restaurant while 28 floors are for residential use. There will also be a public observation desk on the top floor.
At its highest point the building will be 140.55m above sea-level.
The board ruled against its own inspector and passed the development by 5 votes to 2. It said the high quality of the design involved was a factor in the decision.
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Andrew Duffy
ParticipantWow. Maybe you should write to the National Roads Authority and express your concerns about the lack of second and third overtaking lanes on the mainlines of our motorways. The fact is that, M50 aside, all of the motorways in the country have enough lanes in each section for the demand made of those sections – the M1 outside Dublin and the M7 are virtually empty. An upgrade of the M50 to six lanes plus auxiliary lanes is about to start – however, I guess that because the six-lane mainline will only extend from the M1 to the N81 you won’t be happy?
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantI do drive. The extra lanes on the M1 are not slip roads, they are weaving lanes. You won’t find many motorways with sections wider than 6 lanes that aren’t for this purpose – in many cases the road is actually divided into multiple carriageways. The interchange on the M50 at Sandyford is an example. When the M50 upgrade is complete it will have weaving lanes between the M1 and the N81, making it an eight-lane highway.
If you drive North of Dublin Airport on the M1 you’ll see that the traffic does not justify any more than two lanes in each direction.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantIncidentally, the Naas Road dual carriageway at Bluebell was built in the early 1940s – is it the oldest such road in the state?
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe M1 has an eight lane section between the Airport and the M50 – there are five lanes southbound and three northbound. There’s also a shoulder each side and a wide median. Will that do?
Andrew Duffy
Participantthe old Naas road adjacent to the newlands cross to M50 section could be paved away for a proper dual road with flyovers
i know ther are buildings there but most are derelict and to close to the existing road.The N7 is already eight lanes wide at that point, and since it terminates on the M50 there is a deliberate intention not to provide a freeflowing link to the R110 dual carriageways (yes, there are two) on the other side. Also, to absorb a parallel service road and introduce numerous private accesses to the N7 itself would go completely against the point of the upgrade.
as regards to the luas park and ride jucntion should have been a flyover
It will be. Whether the junction should have been built before the Luas opened rather than three years later is another matter.
Andrew Duffy
Participantwhy can’t they build a flyover at newlands cross N7
http://www.sdublincoco.ie/index.aspx?pageid=22&deptid=12&dpageid=355
Volume 5 part 2 has diagrams. The N7 starts at its junction with the M50; the upgrade will provide freeflow links for N7 eastbound to M50 northbound and southbound, and for M50 southbound to N7 westbound. M50 northbound to N7 westbound will have traffic lights as the Luas crosses at grade and it uses part of the existing roundabout. Access to the Luas park and ride will be grade-seperated.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantWhat are Dublin City Council’s bye laws on drinking outside? It’s prohibited in public parks, and the Port Company and Dublin Bus both have bye laws prohibiting it, but I don’t think the boardwalk is a park or part of the port. Is there a bye-law preventing drinking near the liffey quays left over from when they were working docks?
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantIt would be impossible to upgrade the N7 from Naas to the M50 to motorway standard because too many properties have access on to it. The upgrade will remove a lot of these, but not all.
The other section you mentioned is similar to several other “high-quality dual carriageways” which are in the National Development Plan. I haven’t managed to find a good reason why these won’t be classified as motorways and the NRA has been criticised by county councils and government for the inconsistency. The roads are of motorway standard with a design speed of 130km/h, and do not obstruct the old route, with the exception of the N1 from North of Dundalk to the border. The only difference between a high-quality dual carriageway and a motorway in the design handbook is that a dual carriageway is allowed “a limited number of left-on, left-off accesses”, presumably for access to farmland. Why these aren’t allowed on a motorway is unclear; they are in other countries.Andrew Duffy
ParticipantHere’s the city centre from the Storehouse:

Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe church is on Camden Row, behind Kevin St. College. Ruins in a city are odd at any time, and with full height buildings on all sides it really feels strange.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantI’m not sure if it’s a hidden gem, but the moated Drimnagh Castle is certainly in a surprising location.
The small ruined Church near Kevin Street (can someone help me with the name) is also very nice – it’s particularly eerie when you visit at night on Dublin Bus’ Ghost Bus tour!
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantSorry, but when the taxpayer spends several hundred million building a railway line to an area, a temporary state employee has no right to complain about development in that area.
None of these buildings are high rise anyway – the most a 17 storey apartment building could be is about 55m. The Luas bridge in Dundrum is considerably higher.Andrew Duffy
ParticipantIs it still the Arup design (attached), I wonder?
Andrew Duffy
Participant@Boyler wrote:
If only something like that was built in Ireland
It’s not baroque, but it’s certainly impressive:
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/kildare/celbridge/castletown/index.html
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThat is just shocking. Is there another developed county in the world that allows that?
On second thoughts, is there another developed country in the world apart from the USA that allows that?
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantActually, ABP disregarded its inspector’s recommendation to reduce the tower element to nine stories and opted to remove it altogether:
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantWhat’s this about:
The apex of the tower is 39 m above ground level, this is approximately 13 metres lower than the apex of the steeple of the church of St. Augustine and St. John.
I thought the steeple was more like 90 metres above ground level – it’s certainly more than 52.
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe 13 storey tower was reduced to 11 stories during original planning – interesting to note that despite the rigorous research put into the appeals by An Taisce and the Irish Georgian Society, neither noticed.
Andrew Duffy
Participanthttp://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2005/0413/breaking1.htm
New rules for one-off housing to be published
Last updated: 13-04-05, 07:08The Minister for the Environment Dick Roche will today publish new legislation on rural housing which is expected to clear the way for local authorities to apply a customer-response criteria when assessing planning applications.
The new housing guidelines were discussed and approved at the Cabinet meeting yesterday and is reported to allow those with links to the land to be entitled to planning permission.
Under the new rules it is expected that all local authorities will be asked to grant permission for one-off houses and that returning immigrants will be able to apply for one-off housing in their local area.
The rules also expected to develop customer-friendly performance indicators based on the experience of the individual planning offices.
Mr Roche said the performance criteria would be on the ordinary things that people judge the local authority’s performance by such as the length of time required to get a pre-application consultation and the ability to check the status of an application.
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