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A further application has been made, this time for a revision of the existing permission – didn’t know you could do that. It (below) means little me as a layman and seems ancillary to the main development. However, from the road what is being built doesn’t resemble too closely what I had expected the permission to equal.
“Revisions to previously approved scheme (Reg ref 5183/06 and PL29S220979) comprising the forming of a new vehicular entrance ope, piers and gates at north east of property including the removal of existing tree and forming of dipped footpath outside the curtilage of the property; the alteration of existing vehicular entrance at North West of property to form narrow ope and pedestrian gate; related revisions to landscaping and hard surfacing within the curtilage of the property.”
Still not up but if you search on the Dublin City Planning records it says the appeal decision was to grant permission!!
The page linked above says the decision has been made but won’t be published before 5 June (today). Anyone have word yet of what happened?
Anyone know what’s going on with Grianblah? Permission was granted ages ago and, despite the owner’s rush to get started the first time, nothing’s happened. Still boarded up, graffitied. Horrible eyesore on a beautiful park.
This whole saga is so depressing … on the planning level and the client level.
I’ve been reading the objections and am looking forward to reading DCC’s grounds for granting permission.
Has anyone seen the latest “newsletter” distributed by Jim O’Callaghan, a Fianna Fáil candidate (Dublin South East) for the next general election? The local news section has a paragraph on Fitzwilliam Street. I don’t have the exact text and it’s not on his website.
It’s hard to understand, for a number of reasons. In short, he says that the street was ruined “many years ago” by the ESB headquarters (fine), and says he thinks it should be reconstructed to it’s original plans (what?).
- What is the impetus for this? Is this really a priority? And if he is to campaign on design/urban planning, is ESB HQ the most pressing issue in Dublin?
- How could anyone justify destroying the existing buidling to reconstruct fake Georgian houses? The streetscape is gone, long gone. Surely by demolishing ESB HQ a second act of vandalism would be carried out – both by demolishing the current building and by trying to erase part of the city’s history.
- How is this timely? He does not mention Sam Stephenson, but surely there was no need to raise this redundant and irrelevant “issue” as a political campaign just after the death of the architect?
This really left me scratching my head, and turned me absolutely against him as a political candidate. (That and the fact that he tries to present the Consumer Protection Bill as some form of Fianna Fáil innovation, when in fact its most important provisions are all derived from an EU Directive which we are required to implement.)
Any update on this?
DCC Planning search says decision not yet made – should be by now though should it not?
jimg, this information page sets it out easily enough – there’s a fee, but basically you just send in a letter.
http://oasis.gov.ie/housing/planning_permission/commenting_on_planning_application.html
By way of update, the story was covered in the Irish Times on Friday (page 3) and in the current issue of the Phoneix Magazine. (I would link, but both are subscription.)
I’d be interested to hear from others on Archiseek as to what might happen now – would the planners adopt a ‘spilt milk’ approach and decide to allow the permission, or would they impose a fine or something else? Don’t remember the details, but at the end of the IT article (by Frank MacDonald) they refer to an unrelated deveopment where the planners have ordered reconstruction.
Just received a letter from DCC Planning Enforcement regarding “unauthorised development” – an enforcement notice was issued under section 154 of the Planning and Development Act 2000.
Mind you, it doesn’t seem to have slowed them down.
I emailed a complaint to DCC last week; got confirmation today and they said they would keep me informed as to the progress of the case.
Does anyone know if this will be screened again in Ireland, or if it is coming out on DVD (Amazon don’t have details yet).
Sorry for above newbieness – I should have just read down the page on DCC’s website and seen http://www.dublincity.ie/Images/guide_tcm35-8809.pdf
I see there’s an email address for planning enforcement on the DCC website.
Anyone know how that procedure works? E.g. are complaints treated as anonymous by DCC and are they bound to investigate? (I note earlier comments re backlog, etc.)
I have given up on it totally … Very high hoardings have gone up around the site so it’s quite difficult to tell what’s going on in there. It seems that at this stage all the roof is gone anyway. Hopefully at least the replacement will be nice … I’ll keep an eye out and post some photos once the construction is getting somewhere.
Incidentally, does anyone know anything about a nearby mews house at the corner of Palmerston Lane (at the back of the last house on the flat end of P. Park)? It was completed last year, light coloured Ranelagh MD School type brick (don’t know what it is exactly). Anyway, I’ve always been curious when passing to know what the inside is like (e.g. perhaps like Boyd Cody’s Richmond Place house). Would be too much to hope for pics on the architects website maybe.
@maggie wrote:
As an aside, the nice contemporary pub front to Tom’s Bar in Mountrath (Ithink it got an AAI special mention a few years ago) is being replaced with another pastiche traditional surround. It looks a mess, the windows to first floor level and the doors at ground floor seem to be staying. It must have changed ownership recently. Pity.
I drive past there every now and then going down to Limerick. Recently I noticed this and thought: “Hold on a second, wasn’t that pub quite a pleasant contemporary place, showing some signs of 20th century life in the village?”
It’s interesting that people often accuse others of snobbery in criticising developments, etc. on grounds of taste. Each to their own, of course, but I really would like to see all the faux Georgian/Victorian/Palladian/Irish Traditional etc. styles stamped out. Irish people are very conservative, on many levels, and particularly when it comes to design. If they had a bit more interesting design foisted on them perhaps they might change and start to opt for contemporary approaches.
On an anecdotal level I remember, as a student in UCC when the Glucksman Gallery was first proposed, that there were howls of derision from many quarters at the artists’ impressions of the finished building. When it was finished I don’t think there was a whole lot of local interest. Now that it’s an award winning building of international repute it’s like the Jewel in the Crown down there.
Work seems to have begun in earnest today; portakabins on site etc.
Passed by around 10 this morning and there were already two large piles of rubble on the flat roof to the front of the house … all doors removed and lying outside and the sound of destruction filling the air. 🙁
Sorry, the link probably won’t work because it’s a search result.
Easiest thing is to go to http://www.dublincity.ie/ and click on Planning, you can do a planning search for “26 Palmerston Park” – you’ll get 4 results, the highest number of the 2006 applications is the relevant one.
Looks like DCC were beginning the drainage work required today.
DCC have given permission (subject to a few conditions) to development of the house.
See decision here.
The documents section contains the drawings – as a total layman I can’t quite read their significance, but it seems to me that while a lot of work will be done the exterior shell of the house will be largely retained. Professional views?
I am very disappointed that it’s going ahead and also that the new owners thought this action necessary, but the outcome is certainly preferrable to the destruction of the house.
Incidentally, the conservation report is also on the documents section. The author thought the “property has no redeeming architectural features of note … and, in my opinion, is a poor example of the architectural design of its period.” Again, professional views? Seems, in my view, to be a questionably definitive statement.
Permission was refused on the following grounds (from http://www.dublincity.ie):
“The proposed development, by reason of the demolition of an existing habitable house, which contributes positively to the character of this residential conservation area, would be contrary to the Z2 objective in the Dublin City Development Plan. Moreover the proposal does not accord with principles of sustainable development and policies to discourage the demolition of habitable houses (Res 5). The proposal would render it difficult to resist similar development, which would cumulatively undermine the character and legibility of the Conservation Area irrevocably. It is therefore considered that the existing dwelling should be retained in accordance with policies H13 and H27 of the Dublin City Development Plan.”
A small victory for common sense, I think.
I lodged an objection but was out-of-time by one day. Incidentally, I think I had a case for arguing that their calculation of time is one day too short under the legislation … Also, as a sidenote, they didn’t refund the fee but said I could use it for another objection or write to have it refunded. The legislation says they “shall” refund the fee – giving them no option. Pedantic, I know, but they should send the money back.
