alonso

@The Willinator wrote:

Alonso, Were the technical difficulties in sinking the pitch, say 6m, into the ground really insurmountable?

You seem very well informed on this topic.

It’s a pity that was the case. Sinking the pitch would have been great way to increase capacity with all the height restrictions on north side of site.

I don’t know Will, and it;s been well over a year since I last looked at it. If you check DCC’s website the EIS should be there. Even the non-technical summary should give an explanation. There’s only so much sinking that can be done to an existing ground as the more you go down the more you shrink the playing surface, unless you go for a Giants stadium look where a wall surrounds the pitch before the stadium starts but this negates the whole point of doing it in the first place.

looks cool. Keep em. but lose the barriers

@noel o’gara wrote:

Eircom means nothing to you because you didnt invest in the shares, so when the politicians put all that public money in their own pension fund that meant nothing to you either perhaps because you benefit from it.

But the rest of the country lost it or rather it was all simply taken from the public entirely for the benefit of the civil service. The public owned it and it was sold to them on the pretense that the money was going into the public purse.The public lost on the double. Once for buying out their own business and again by having those funds put in a private fund.

Believe me noel, oh chief ignoramus of the pillock tribe, Eircom meant a lot to me. I said it has nothing to do with planning! Can’t we trust you to at least read?

You make yourself sound like a latter day saint.

If not being a greedy runt muck savage makes me a saint, well then slap a halo on me and call St. Alonso!

I bought the park from the owner and I own it now. I paid him for it and he inherited it from his dad and other relatives. What do you see wrong with that? I offered it to the residents and they never made any attempt to buy it because they expect the corpo to buy it for them and maintain it for them as a park.

Oh nothing! But closing it kinda backfired. As for breaching the law, well that was just plain thick and ignorant.

I naturally want to use it for the business of car parking

As one does in all Georgian Squares:rolleyes:

because there is an obvious need for such and why shouldnt I when its my land? I could just build a farm house there but the car park was a much better business plan and after all we do live in a capitalist country much to your distaste.

Yep. Hate that Capitalism so I do. Even though last week you claimed I was only in it for the money. Looney alert!!!

Parking also serves a pressing need for many city folk who cant find any parking space in the area.
It was always private property and the corpo bought the lease and made it into a park about twenty years ago. That was done against the wishes of the owner who was willing to sell to the corpo but they messed him about so much that he was delighted to sell to me in the end.

The history of Dartmouth Square and it’s ownership is utterly irrelevant to it’s zoning and the use that is most desirable there today

Have you got something against private ownership of land?

Eh yeh. All pinko commie lefty capitalist tories like me do.

I think its you who has lost it.

Nah. But for your benefit I’ve tried to debate at your level. Somewhere between the gutter and Yorkshire

As for planning alonso, you just cant see the wood for the trees. Stand back and take a look at the lousy planning mess that Dublin has been turned into by fellows like you. You are too immersed in the detail to see the bigger picture.

Fellows like me? Am I now a Fianna Fail politician as well as a capitalist hating Gordon Gecko type paradox? Jesus I’ve more coats than Eoghan fucking Harris at this stage.

I recommend everyone google Noel O’Gara. It’s fucking priceless shit. Especially his manifesto on politics.ie. He makes this guy look sane
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Ah yes that;s it. To be a good planner, you must first be a landowner. Not all of us can climb the filthy greasy pole that you occupy Noel. Some of us are interested in the common good. I know the word “common” is anathema to people like you, as are concepts such as “neigbourhood”, “community”, and “society”. It’s all about giving benevolent charitable landed types like you free reign is it? Fuck the poor, screw the unfortunate, bollox those without access to the surplus wealth to support an election campaign or 4. Noel you’re a twisted old crank who is really bringing this site into disrepute.

I would go on, but when one side of an argument is so obviously self defeating, there;s no point. Anyway I’ve real planning to do. Happy New Year

henno, you do realise you;re talking to a fantasist wingnut?

Cute Panda, I wish no ill on Thomas Davis. At the end of the day it’s not the bigotted twits leading the club who will suffer. It’s the under 11’s and under 13’s who will carry the can, which does no one any good at all. However when Tallaght takes hold, the local population will revel in it and remember the bastards who tried to stop this development. GAA will be in trouble out there, and the walls, rather than being broken down, will be built even higher.

It;s an interesting thing happening in Wexford. I had no idea he was having trouble. We need another 20 Mick Wallaces, north and south, to keep this League going. I’m sure an All Ireland League will become a reality, but any potential detrimental effect on smaller clubs needs to be avoided.

back to planning matters, Will I’m surprised that the CoCo is being so dense on this – You;re right. He’s doing their job by pumping money into recreational facilities for the local population. He is going to run the LoI club as a commercial venture, but a bit of leeway would be nice – Is the County Manager a FF GAA head? Aren’t they all?

sound like it?

1375/07

“In accordance with part 9 of the planning and development regulations 2001 to 2006, the Courts Service propose to develop a Criminal Courts Complex on a site of approximately 0.95 hectares, comprising the Garda Siochana car compound and part of the Department of Defence lands at the junction of Infirmary Road and Parkgate Street, Dublin. The complex will have circa 24,850 sqm gross floor area and will be circa 37.7 m high above the main entrance level which is 10.00 m above ordnance datum. Accommodation will consist of 22 courts, jury, judicial, bar council, custodial and office accommodation, public reception, waiting and circulation areas, cafeteria and other internal ancillary facilities, approximately 70 car spaces located in underground car park and external car park”

Not sure how this works. I think DCC can only make observations as it’s a Dept of Justice application, which does not require Planning Permission. So it’s unclear whether this development has the go ahead, but the map should tell you:

@adhoc wrote:

What nonsensical and aesthetical hysteria? And a poor comparison to boot. With train frequencies of up to 4 minutes you won’t be spending a lifetime in the Metro station, unlike public housing.

but many thousands will pass through these buildings 4 times a day, and millions of different people will use them every year. Are you saying aesthetics are irrelevant to such structures?

Perhaps the catchment for the southern loop is greater – Digital Hub, Stephen’s Green, TCD and the general Dublin 2 commercial core? Seems to be a busier part of town than Cabra, Drumcondra and the North Strand

jaysus it’s all gone a bit

on this thread…