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nope not at all,. I fully agree that a pedestrianised area would be the ideal outcome. Think of this as step 1 maybe…
@mud hut! wrote:
Great so CIE did’nt get their monstrosity of a bus terminal and flatten Temple Bar so now they get something even better…College Green!!The nicest part of Dublin will now become a bus car park!Engines running,smoke belching from these double decker buses!Yep it will be brill standing in the center of College Green looking at 15 maybe twenty 18 foot high buses blocking the views of the Bank of Ireland,Trinity college and the other beautiful facades.How can you think this is good for the city…its mad!All traffic should be banned and the green and turned into a proper european type square,ie where you can sit and relax with your beer/coffee and not be run over by a 30 ton bus.
You got all this from an engineer in Dublin Bus? Apologies for my abrasive tone but I presume you are now familiar with the proposal and can set your engineer pal straight
@missarchibeingvery helpful wrote:
http://www.dublincity.ie/RoadsandTraffic/QBNProjectOffice/QBN/Documents/T-QBN-127-DSL-001.pdf
http://www.dublincity.ie/RoadsandTraffic/QBNProjectOffice/Documents/T-QBN-127-DSL-002.pdfmud hut! read the bloody thread and do some research before polluting the site with gibberish. There’ll be no additional bus stops and no layovers etc etc… click the links though, they;’re very useful. They were on the last page of this thread
eh it’s a bus gate. Something for buses to go through not stay in – no stops, no layovers. There’ll be less buses after this then there are now actually, given their cutbacks
well jaysus if you don’t know how the frack are we supposed to get it? 😉
and the kid is Eamonn Dunphy fresh from kickin a ball o rags around the Gloucester diamond. The chap leaning on the corner is Bill Cullen while that’s Ronnie Drew walking past Eamo.
Rare oul’ times indeed…..
@tommyt wrote:
You have my full support if you wanna go piss on Neil Blaney’s grave as well if you’ve got the inkling for such behaviour.
if I can manage it after leaving 6 pints worth on Charlie’s
@lostexpectation wrote:
please when and where can we round up all of the people responsible for the current hq and throw rotten fruit at them
CJH and Big Sam? Both no longer with us
well said Graham. I see this thing every day and I want to, I really really want to like it but I can’t. A major disappointment. I just have to trust that it functions brilliantly inside and will be a revenue generator for Dublin and the wider economy. Many on here despise the O2 from the outside but I can categorically state that it is a world class venue. i hope this makes it a double for the North Wall from that perspective at least
some wider shots of the new place
From the bridge on Grand Canal St
Ringsend Bridge
Towering over Bath Avenue
There’s a joke about better quality on the wings in here somewhere – (this guy was massive and very very loud)
@GrahamH wrote:
I’d broadly agree with you on that alonso, though to tweak it slightly, it’s equally likely that inexperienced graduates (in both professions) are given these files, which are then signed off by those at a more senior level. In that case, I don’t know if you can blame such inexperience over the system that allows these people to be involved at that level of decision-making. Either way it results in a mess!
I agree that it’s the system that allows this and it is up to those with experience to guide those without. There is a vacuum there. Where do we look for for good practice? We’ve been looking to the continent for decades yet seem intent on always aping failed anglo American models – maybe not in architecture itself but in our entire approach to the built environment and how we move through it. My point was mainly related to the lack of sympathy for the profession – I agree that in total there can be no sympathy for the planning profession and architecture. There is no excuse for what’s gone on. If we built absolute shit pre-boom, worse shit during the boom, what the hell are we gonna do in the recession?
However i do have sympathy for all involved who are being pushed to the dole queue or the Airport – most of who i’ll wager are under 35, even 30
Graham, while we all abhor this type of crap development, it should be borne in mind that the architects and planners that are experiencing the most trouble in these troubled times are new graduates and those with least experience and therefore those with the least responsibility for these abberations. The managers and most senior people will be ok and they are the ones who facilitate and sign off on this shite. The ones queuing at the social welfare hatches and check in desks are mostly those without a final say.
@cgcsb wrote:
think it’s 2010 with the first event taking place in 2011, but by the looks of things, it may finish before that.
wouldn’t necessarily say that although it is motoring along nicely – the fit out of the interiors for a venue like this will be enormous in scale and intricate in detail.
