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too little too late, where was he when wicklow did similar in 04, and what did his predecessor do when meath councillors seemed to spill yellow paint all over their development plan in 01. It’s only because this council is run by FG that roche has got involved… politically motivated ar5e
i’ve just seen a nice example of this type of thing in dun laoghaire town centre. An awful pig of an apartment block is being built behind, above, beside and around what i believe is an early 20th century terrace at the junction of York Road and the Main Street, you’d have a wonderful view atop the 46A on the way to the seafront… sorry i’ve no pic. It’s not a protected structure but to be honest they’d have been better off demolishing the terrace than doing this
yeh there’s a real issue with sites like Clancy Barracks. They’re prime development sites, whose development in a high density, often high rise manner are almost essential from a strategic point of view. The same goes for other sites in the Heuston-Kilmainham area. It’s very difficult to redevelop these urban blocks in an effective manner sympathetic to the protected structures. However, crap design should never be tolerated.
ABP don’t “have to do” anything. Political pressure is something the board do not take kindly to. Sure wasn’t mary o’rourke goin nuts about this recently. They are generally open for the period of consultation and then they are a closed shop. They were also criticised for refusing residential developments out in Dun laoghaire despite the pressure from local govt for housing.
apparently it’s a “building with a shoulder parapet at 100 metres above street level crowned with a new recording studio for U2 in a penthouse to a final height of 130 metres above street level” so 130 metres then?
It’s a pity it’s a section 25 application. Had it been a normal one, someone could have appealed and asked for an oral hearing. And given Boo’s penchant for attending these types of events, we coulda gone and looked on in awe/heckled/got an autograph/thrown fruit… whatever floats yer boat
sure a Uefa Cup Final is the best we could possibly expect. It’s not often any final is held outside the superpower territories of Spain, Italy, Germany, UK, France, Holland. e.g. Only 3 of the 14 Champions League Finals have been held anywhere else.. the likes of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Ireland, nearly any of the old Eastern Bloc, even Denmark and Belgium, rarely host major finals (though the venue of this years UEFA final escapes me) 01 was dortmund, 03 was seville. i’m open to correction on this one, but it’s the impression i get… and i don’t need reminding of Istanbul. But the Pool won in Wembley, Paris Rome twice in the 70s and 80’s… that’s 5 by the way, manu/arse/chelski fans. 5.
as for a tournament, i agree with seamus… you need about 8 stadiums of c35,000+ to host one and ourselves and Scotland won’t ever have that in a desirable geographical spread. Organising bodies like Uefa and FIFA like to see their tournaments bringing benefits across the host territories thereby ensuring the support of locals. For example a tournament in Ireland would not get any support from Mayo or Kerrry coz the matches would be in Dublin, plus tournament fatigue in Dublin may see the least glamorous ties ignored if they’re 2 days after a Germany-Holland cracker. You only have to look at Japan to see how importnat the local input is. The same principle was applied to the Special Olympics Host Town scheme, which made it a completely national event…
yeh micky’s argument is not a planning one whatsoever, whereas UPROAR at least have real environmental concerns. Problem is Dublin County Council, in their ultra corrupt phase, decided to build a suburb in a proposed flight path back in the 1970’s and 80’s so they’re to blame. I’m not suggesting Portmarnock grew as a result of criminal activity, it’s just odd that such a mangled decision occured in Rambo’s back yard. They knew the Airport would grow and would require infrastructure.
The issue however for UPROAR is not the Terminal, it;s the 2nd runway, currently at oral hearing. The terminal is a no-brainer to anyone who’s been there recently but UPROAR are trying to push an alternative site for the growth of the airport, as you may have seen in correpsondences to newspapers because the proposed flight path is over their heads… an absolute pisser, but i reckon the growth of Dublin Airport is utterly unstoppable and the situation may arise where Portmarnock ends up in terminal decline (no pun intended, or avoided!!!) while the rest of the region gets the airport it deserves…
it sucks balls, i used to live in portmarnock so i sympathise. It was a great place with the beach and loadsa open space to get up to all sorts as a kid but it seems like it’s fucked now. i’d be very surprised if An Bord Pleanala would contravene the National Development PLan and refuse either the runway or the terminal… then again they granted that puked up sack of crap at Stillorgan and the Monkstown Ring Road, both of which were abominations so christ knows what goes on in their collective heads…
i reckon the DEGW study was pretty weak, pathetic even. If major rail lines intersect anywhere in the Metropolitan Area, it’s pretty suitable for medium to high rise (by which i mean 10 to 20 storeys i.e. not high rise at all). The only legitimate reasons for it not occuring are conservation and loss of residential amenity… so yes, areas like Tallaght, Blanchardstown, North Ballymun and Balgaddy are all suitable and any central area served or proposed to be served by rail is not only suitable for unprecedented (in Dublin) land use intensification, but on a strategic level, it must occur in order to consolidate the city and halt the sprawl… so even the very principle of identifying areas in a capital city of over 1 million for high rise is a flawed one, which has done nothing to contribute to planning in the city
but for the love of christ, 51 storeys was a complete nonsense and I;m glad it was refused. I honestly thought this was a scare tactic by the developer to get about 30 storeys through AI, negotiations and the appeals process…
I look forward to the next application
41 storeys anyone?
yep carlton site would have been ideal if it was big enough and not tied up in red tape bollix. Hopefully though by the time this is built Luas line C1 will be down to the point depot and maybe, just maybe, the Docks will have a little life about it after 6 pm…
yeh i thought they were just chancing their arm and their next scheme will be about 30 storeys, just as unsympathetic and shite. It’ll be granted by the Council, appealed, have a few storeys knocked off by the Bord and we’ll get another non-descript “skyscraper” down there… wonderful planning by all involved
