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- December 5, 2007 at 11:56 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770869
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Participantit’s the greenest red sandstone around…;) They’ve finished restoring that georgian building on the quay in the same stone, looks good, though already graffitied. They’ve also put up very nice new heritage info signs around the town and put a walkway along a section of the town walls and opened the doorways into the same. But nothing can redeem this;
December 5, 2007 at 11:37 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770866ake
Participantgreen sandstone?
December 5, 2007 at 10:53 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770864ake
Participantit’s this quite spectacular edifice here;
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It’s now a spanish language college
Just love that beautiful stone- what is it? I don’t recall seeing it anywhere outside Youghal- or did I see some in Cork city…by the way re St.Mary’s, the new (or refurbished) organ made it’s appearance this year and is now at the entrance to the north transept. It’s nice, but why not put it in the already existant organ gallery at the back? it’s loud enough!
[ATTACH]6465[/ATTACH]December 5, 2007 at 9:58 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770862ake
ParticipantThought I might share a little something on a different topic;
In St.Mary’s Collegiate church, Youghal, you’ll see all sorts of old pictures, panels and informative plaques on the walls, among them this, which I’m not sure if it is original or a print;
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larger version here ; http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2089005273&size=o&context=set-72157600141174376
You can see the plaster was still on the walls in 1860. Now it’s not present on the inside face of the nave, the chancel and the transepts, but remains in the aisles and under arches;
[ATTACH]6461[/ATTACH][ATTACH]6462[/ATTACH]also in Youghal, I see the Convent beside the St.Mary’s, on the former College site is due to be turned into a museum/cafe/restaurant/office building. Is there a chapel in this building?
also anyone have a picture of the chapel in the “Youghal international college” if that is in fact a chapel.
December 5, 2007 at 7:13 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770859ake
ParticipantOriginally, there was a mud and thatch church hidden in this little hollow during penal times, then in the early 19th century, this church was built. As far as I can remember there were some small works subsequently and then in 1970 I think, a renovation to conform to liturgical…blah blah blah.. usual rubbish. Maybe they’ve done more since then, looks pretty shiny.
December 4, 2007 at 10:08 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770856ake
Participantyes, and it’s a shame; the exterior
[ATTACH]6458[/ATTACH]December 3, 2007 at 11:16 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770852ake
Participant@Praxiteles wrote:
JUst take a look at this piece of nonsense by
Mr Fergus Costello, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary.
I jest not: This is from wikipedia: “Fergus Costello is an internationally acclaimed liturgical artist and church designer. He is a leading authority on Church art in Ireland and is based out of Cloughjordan.”
😀 Does he have to practise his art by obliterating the work of artists of previous generations?
December 3, 2007 at 11:12 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770851ake
ParticipantI should have mentioned, the church is not a tree house church. It’s completely grounded.
I don’t even have a big problem with this stuff, by itself, it can even be kind of interesting, for a few minutes.
It’s when they destroy the real, original interior to create this, that’s the problem. Do they not realise they’re contrasting two completely incompatible styles? Or at least, one of them is a style.. A similar, less drastic thing happened in a little village near New Ross called Listerlin;
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Participantjust thought we could take a time-out on cobh to admire the ‘improvements’ to this historic pre-emancipation church in Wexford, at Poll fuar (Fethard on Sea)
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Strange we don’t hear as much about this triumph of artistic creation.December 3, 2007 at 3:13 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770835ake
Participant@samuel j wrote:
. We thank the people of Cobh and of the Diocese for their support in the restoration of the Cathedral for generations to come. Fr. Michael Leamy Adm.”
After what they wanted to do to the cathedral!!
Sickening.
December 3, 2007 at 12:47 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770832ake
Participant@Gianlorenzo wrote:
3. Re-roofing the Cathedral. While this has stopped the worst of the leaks and flooding which used to occur, we are still left with a situation where water is ingressing somewhere at roof level and this is destroying the stone of the capitals of the pillars in the church. This we can see, how much more damage is being done that is not evident to the naked eye?
This was taken in June;
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Has anything been done on this since?November 27, 2007 at 6:34 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770808ake
Participant@Praxiteles wrote:
Trying to find an architect for Duncannon, Praxiteles looked at the Record of Protected Structures maintained by Wexford County Council and was flabbergasted to discover that Ramsgrange, Bree, and Tagoath -some of A W N Pugin’s most important works in Ireland Had NOT been listed. Is that believable? What numbskull was employed by the County Council to compile the record if they managed to miss these items? Following is the list of churches that had not been listed but were down for listing: Just look at no. 22 to see how Ramsgrange is described!!
Catholic Churches for Protection
1. Adamstown
Early 19th Century barn church with tower.
2. Ballindaggan
Large, circa 1840 barn church; walls of checkered stone.
3. Ballygarrett
Church with massive, lighthouse of a tower.
4. Ballymore
Barn church of 1830.
5. Ballymurn
Church of 1832 with important interior, plasterwork, and gallery.
Maher chapel.
6. Barntown
Church by Pugin 1844.
7. Bellevue
Gothic revival church by J. J. McCarthy.
8. Bree
Simple barn church by Pugin.
9. Clongeen
Barn church with venetian window.
10. Clonroche
Barn church with gothic revival façade.
11. Courtnacuddy
Single–cell, gothic – revival, church.
12. Davidstown
Entrance arch below the church.
13. Glenbrien
Small barn church in perfect condition.
14. Glynn
Late- 18th Century barn church.
15. Hilltown
Barn church with classical interior.
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16. Killinierin
Well-detailed gothic- revival church.
17. Kilmyshall
Barn Church with screen façade of circa 1830.
18. Lady’s Island
Late 19th Century gothic – revival church.
19. Old Ross
Late 19th century gothic – revival church.
20. Oulart
Early-19th century gothic – revival church.
21. Piercetown
22. Ramsgrange
Church with huge tower dated 1865.
23. Rathangan
Large, impressive church with tower and spire circa 1850.
24. Rathnure
Simple 19th century church.
Entrance arch – very elaborate.
25. Tagoat
Important Pugin church of 1846.
26. Taylorstown Bridge
Possibly late 18th century church – now a hall.The church at Old Ross is a beauty; these shots aren’t great but you can see in the altar is a simple wooden cross and cloth, much preferable to the modernist junk that usually replaces high altars; also notice the paint scheme
[ATTACH]6416[/ATTACH][ATTACH]6417[/ATTACH]At Clongeen, the church has an awful new paint scheme with no stenciling, but remains pretty intact, with beautiful decoration in the sanctuary;
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[ATTACH]6419[/ATTACH]In a nearby townland to these is the late Victorian protestant church of Horetown, which replaced an earlier Georgian building. It’s well worth a look;
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[ATTACH]6422[/ATTACH][ATTACH]6423[/ATTACH]November 26, 2007 at 4:16 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770803ake
Participantboth good questions.
November 26, 2007 at 3:57 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770801ake
ParticipantStar of the Sea, Duncannon, the neighbouring parish to Ramsgrange
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November 25, 2007 at 11:51 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770793ake
ParticipantSome shots of St.Werburgh’s church, Dublin, miraculously well preserved. What a treasure.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/sets/72157603267109045/
November 22, 2007 at 6:07 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770784ake
ParticipantRamsgrange parish church. Wrecked.
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November 21, 2007 at 10:48 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770779ake
ParticipantPerhaps the church stands in the same relation to Tagoat as the twin churches do to St.Aidan’s; built by Pugin’s assistants.
November 21, 2007 at 9:55 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770775ake
ParticipantThese idiots have nothing better to do!
Barntown is very beautiful and wonderfully preserved. And very similar to Templetown. As for the architect of the latter, I was hoping you might know something about that… sigh. how long will I have to wait for the Buildings of Ireland to publish a south east volume…
Here are some more of All saints. Like Barntown the ceiling is well stencilled.
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November 20, 2007 at 7:56 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770767ake
ParticipantThanks;here’s the south chapel window. I’ll put up one of the great window soon.
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It’s a great pity the main altar railing is gone here. from the looks of it it may have extended the sanctuary one bay into the nave, like the rowe street church in Wexford which works beautifully
btw Here’s of a shot of the exterior which is also superb.
http://www.ferns.ie/parish.shtml?Id=TempletownNovember 19, 2007 at 8:46 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #770765ake
ParticipantAll Saints, Templetown, Wexford parish church; a small rural counterpart to the Wexford town churches.
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I personally prefer garden grottoes outside.
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