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@Luzarches wrote:
http://stbarbara.blogspot.com/2008/0…cathedral.html
Pictures of the church presently:
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@Praxiteles wrote:
Are they porphyry?
who’s to say they mightn’t be? indeed they could well be porphyry. porphyry or plastic in any case.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Re the Waterford Churches kindly posted by Ake, nothing could be more justifiably criticised than the one with the so called “day-chapel. The interior is a visible nightmare.
Nay, not so. haven’t you noticed the lovely red columns and the many chandeliers?
Idiots! How can a church less than 200 years old need renovation to conform to current liturgical requirements, if you can then perform a liturgy 1000 years old or whatever in the same damn building! Surely we now need to de-reorganise all the churches for the requirements of the High Mass. And then un-de-reorganise them each week for the vernacular mass…
Who will rid us of these troublesome priests?
Well you might not like these then;
These octogonal churches are both in Waterford city. One is a larger more elaborate version of the other. The smaller is St.Benildus’, near the De La Salle College.
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[ATTACH]6870[/ATTACH][ATTACH]6867[/ATTACH]I am very partial to these dark, quiet spaces, closed off from the outside, yet not gloomy or claustrophobic. Spacious even. I think the use of presumably economical materials is exemplary. A nice warm, light brown brick on the wall surface, the concrete reserved for the ‘dome’ which being dark and slightly lit, is not really visible in all it’s brutality. The dome light achieves a kind off peaceful hovering effect All the furnishings are coherent in style, the doors and confessions ‘boxes’ work well etc. Of course the windows are the star of the show, lighting up the corridor running around the outside of the octagon like a cloister walk.
Here is the larger church, beside the Ursuline Convent.
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[ATTACH]6876[/ATTACH]This one however besides the central altar, also has another (‘high’?) altar protruding outwards from one of the sides of the octagon.
Now, of course, what relation these buildings have to Catholic liturgy is another question. Yet, merely as pieces of architecture, with the very basic function of a gathering place with a speaker’s central area, they are decent pieces of work. As temples to modern secular spirituality they are pretty ideal, as Roman Catholic churches, well….
@ake wrote:
I mentioned the conservation works going on at St.Mary’s, Haddingdon road, Ballsbridge earlier. Rather more than conservation works actually. Anyway, here are some shots;
Here’s a link to a pdf with details of the restoration programme from the parish website;
http://www.stmaryshaddingtonroad.ie/pdfs/Restoration_Programme.pdf
where will they get all those millions from?
@ake wrote:
I mentioned the conservation works going on at St.Mary’s, Haddingdon road, Ballsbridge earlier. Rather more than conservation works actually. Anyway, here are some shots;
I forgot this ; the plans for the landscaping around the church and parish building. Quite expensive! but the trustees of St.Colman’s could learn a thing or two about how to spend properly here.
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large version; http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/2285838542/sizes/l/in/set-72157603965796644/
I mentioned the conservation works going on at St.Mary’s, Haddingdon road, Ballsbridge earlier. Rather more than conservation works actually. Anyway, here are some shots;
They’re doing a good job conserving the stonework on the tower as far as I could make out; The nave – notice the awful modern lamps.
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Here’s the east end- most of the walls and ceiling have been painted pink- an incomprehensible act of stupidity; The exceptionally fine pulpit; and the sanctuary, with the ‘cramped’ altar which they plan to ‘adjust’ in some way. Notice the fine mosaic floor. And of course the gates, still hinged yet perpetually folded right back so you can’t see them.
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The magnificent altar rails;
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A view down the gothic pink nave; an example of the glass, which is very good; a detail of the sanctuary showing the wooden screen blocking off the back of the altar. These screens I fear for when they talk about ‘adjusting’ the altar and reredos.
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And the defunct baptistry, with the font now stuffed into the north side chapel- an arrangement up for ‘reconsideration’; And a small aside- an interesting gate into what seemed to be a mortuary.
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Below is a plan which I guess is too small to read;
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There’s a larger version here; http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/2285838268/sizes/l/
And more pictures on this photostream, if you know how to use flickr (plus large versions of the above shots) here;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/page3/@Rhabanus wrote:
Absolutely correct!! What happened to those gates? Where are they now? When are they to be returned? Who is responsible for their removal?
I notice that Judge Judy’s court has gates on its rails – and they certainly swing!!
actually, if you look closely I think you can see the gates un-hinged, resting against the railings on the inside of the sanctuary on either side of the entrance. I’ve frequently seen this in churches, for example, in the Wexford twin churches discussed earlier.
@Rhabanus wrote:
Admirable the way that the communion rail lends definition to the sanctuary.
No harm closing the gates once in a while though.
As shocking as the philsophical implications are and everything.
but what is this item? you say it is a ‘unit’ with a sink in it? behind the altar? a sink behind the altar? how has it been ‘attached’ to the wall?
They really are just determined aren’t they, to mess around with the cathedral.
Perhaps someone should be liable for prosecution for violating planning LAWS.
The Dominican church in Limerick City;
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I thought these little side chapels/areas were quite fine, and being out of the way and not very visible, off the South aisle, they did not spoil the rest of the (19th century) interior.Any thoughts?
yes st.Joseph’s and the Capuchin church exactly. Two very fine well preserved churches. The painted stations of the cross in the Capuchin church are excellent, as is the painting in the sanctuary.
re St.Saviour’s; you say some of it was dumped?but surely someone would have pawned it off for salvage? It’s far from worthless after all! At the very least, I’m sure there are people who’d employ a gothic pinnacle or a set of altar rails as a garden feature..
A quick aside;Here are two other large gothic city centre churches, both very fine. This first one is opposite the Mater beside that little park (what’s it called?)
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And this is either a Dominican or Franciscan church, on the same street as St.Michan’s CoI, I think…must verify
It has magnificent decoration but has lost it’s stenciling in an outpouring of yellow idiocy.
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[ATTACH]6723[/ATTACH]@Praxiteles wrote:
And, as I am coming to another prototype, St Saviour’s, Dublin, I came across this most interesting link:
interesting indeed.
depressing aswell. where do you suppose they put all that stuff? is it in some other church? an antique shop? or tucked away somewhere safely, awaiting resurrection? they hardly just dumped it all. so where is it?
St.Saviours Dominican, Waterford, discussed earlier
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c1900 and today
large version of after shot; http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2136072998&context=set-72157600277832250&size=l
