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@alonso wrote:
No matter what the Greens do tonight, no matter what roads are built in the future, no matter what M3 is built, the unnecessary destruction of Tara comprises nothing more than state-sponsored vandalism of the most backward, regressive and idiotic kind.
Absolutely right. History will condemn us for letting it happen.
@Rhabanus wrote:
The interior, it must be confessed, needs some “picking up”, but not the kind that the pastor likely has in mind.
Agreed. It needs quite a bit of caretaking. The lamps are awful, and the sanctuary could do with a bit more stenciling maybe.
@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Joseph’s Church, Liscarroll, Co. Cork.
The latest we hear from the Cloyne HACK’s attempt to devastate the interior of this church is that 13 objections have been lodged with Cork County Council opposing the proposals to gut the interior and demolish the existing sacristy. Cork County Council wrote to the applicant on 24 May 2007 requesting further information – and well they might as it was not mentioned anywhere in the application that it was intended to demolish not only the altar rail but also the altar, the tabernacle and to erase the entire sanctuary platform – in true Will Dowsing fashion!
There were also a few hairy aspects to the application as lodged with Cork County Council. On a few headings, it should be possible to have the application declared invalid. We shall watch to see how that one works out.
Any interior shot?
In fairness, it was worse on my first visit and there’s alot of plastic crap out of shot.
SS Peter and Paul, Cork; Anyone know when this dates from? There’s a similar kind of thing in the Newman church;
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University church
[ATTACH]4935[/ATTACH]What a marvellously intact church SSPP is. Except for a couple of hands and fingers missing from the wooden statuary.
The choir stalls in Waterford Cathedral
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Lots more shots of the woodwork in the Cathedral here http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/sets/72157600286540394/Here’s the altar in the Dominican church in Waterford I was moaning about. There were alot more flowers the last time, and there’s alot more out of shot, almost all cheap plastic. More shots from that church here http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/sets/72157600277832250/
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Romanesque sculpture found when demolishing St.Finbarre’s in the 1860’s ; ASTONISHING!!
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And this is the old gothic door there; also remarkably good.
[ATTACH]4890[/ATTACH]What happened to these? Are they in museums/private collections? They should be in Kildare street! It hardly even occured to me that cork was a medieval city. Can anyone post a drawing or painting of medieval or pre Georgian Cork? Maybe in one of the cork threads.
Very interesting rhabanus thanks. Alot of churches way over do it with the flowers- in Waterford, that church I mentioned before is particularly bad- with one of the side altars (an absolute beauty) totally bombarded with flowers in not very nice vases. The arrangement is unthoughtful, and does not recognise the architectural/artistic design- a flower is put wherever there is level surface. I didn’t want to photograph it like that and the only other option was to move all of those pots on to the ground momentarily- I gave up there were so many.
@GrahamH wrote:
The delightful scene presented to those attending the Urbanism conference in the Castle during the week.
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un be fucking lievable. The sheer ignorance of it!
Can anyone give a concise explanation of the phenonomen of flowers in churches? Are they liturgically required, permitted, historical,etc? I’m not a flower hater, but some altars, many altars in fact are miniature jungles- this really obstructs viewing the altar.
I know the church. It’s never been open when I’ve walked past it. I vaguely recall it being somesort of Viking museum for a while,maybe that’s wrong. Don’t know what the interior is like now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s been obliterated and joined onto the adjacent buildings though.
@Sue wrote:
Fred Barry is chief executive of the National Roads Authority
His opinion therefore on how good of a job he and NRA are doing is not objective or relevant.
It always strikes me that the ‘redecoration’ of these churches must always be very expensive; even posterpainting a nave barbie girl pink requires costly scaffolding etc. One possible means of throwing a spanner in the works of these projects might be an examination of the finances; where are the priests getting the money? If it’s parish donations, demanding a transparency to the process and a choice of putting your money where you want it to go- maintenance, security, gardening or priest, etc would presumably leave the priests with no revenue for ‘renewal’ of churches as I can hardly believe anyone knowingly donates significant money to the obvious wreckage of their parish church. I don’t know how these things work, but inserting a bit of democracy into the process of looking after the church must be a good way to ward off the Calvinist notions of the modern clergy.
We could also use a National Trust for country houses and estates, yet after all these years incredibly there’s still no such body. I would be very pessimistic about the remaining churches and valuable features and about any group for their protection. I think Cobh got lucky.
Thanks. tried the first two, nothing. I don’t think there’s anything on the web. I’m fairly confident Waterford city Library will have something which maybe I can photocopy. I’m mainly trying to find out a if the Cathedral was always painted that idiotic blue , and also how long those stations of the cross have been painted on the columns. That won’t be for a few weeks though.
There are two remarkably fine side altars, ( I mean spectacular) in the Waterford City church, whose name I don’t know- it’s the one on Bridge street just before the bridge. I’ll photograph it in a few weeks maybe. Drop in anyone passing through Waterford, it’s well worth a look.
What are the usual sources for old pre vat II photographs of irish church interiors? I’m looking for Waterford churches in particular. Where would they be?
