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@Devin wrote:
The original scheme was much worse:
True.
Graham H wrote:But the materials that were chosen in the built scheme are simply appalling. For the past thousand years this site has been sourcing materials locally]Agreed, i think its the garish cladding that causes offence here, pissing all over everything it overlooks with contempt. I could live with the glazing.
@aj wrote:
i doubt whether it will last for years as Dunne has a massive interest charge on the funds borrowed against the site. the hotels are not running profitably and even if they where they would only dent the interest he has to pay on the loans. He needs to build what he can ans sell the properties pronto!
If he had any smarts he would have leased them with rolling break clauses in the event of redevelopment; hotels are very complex especially those above travel lodge level not to mind 5 Star hotels such as the Berkeley Court which take a team of support staff with real skills and knowledge of the customer base.
@hutton wrote:
I have to say I dont think its that bad
i tend to think that way too, then i see it again … granted its not like it was replacing much, but this is a pretty sensite site & overall i think its way too much.
@JoePublic wrote:
Schwartz’s plaza.
Liebskind’s theatre.
Calatrava’s bridge.Fairly sparse negative comment on these 3 i’d suggest.
@KerryBog wrote:
I never could understand why landscaping is an afterthought (if ever) in most Irish developments.
Because theres scarcely a penny left at the end of a job & it literally is an after though in most cases kb. Even in situations where money is not an issue, inevitably the build has gone over budget & whether the client has the money or not, they tend to be closing the money tap with a large wrench by the time the poor ‘aul landscape designer gets a call … you’re often left wondering why the fuck they bothered calling you in the first place.
Of course they’ve just spent 100k on the kitchen & 50k on an integrated sound system – its a psychological thing, clients just don’t think of the garden in those terms, 100k to fit out a room internally, 15k to cover an area that is normally several times the footprint of the house. Do ye do the decking and the lot ?
You do get the odd insightful client that wants the landscape designer involved from the off, in an effort to achieve interior & exterior spaces that work with each other. Unfortunately though, there is normally very little or no contact between architect & their landscape equivalents when really both disciplines should be heavily integrated.
Rant over 😉
@ctesiphon wrote:
we must be seen to make progress! Lots of big, unnecessary, visible progress.
(Progress is the right word here, yes?)
think i’d opt for regress 😉
So this rears its head again. It seems the DDDA are totally hung up on breaking the line of the liffey one way or another whether it be gormely’s sculpture, custom house proposal or this yoke. I’ve no issue with the canal idea but why the need to breach the quay wall & indeed their own campshires project ??
@alonso wrote:
Hi. Can anyone enlighten me as to the purpose and direction of the above thread?
from thread title to post, i’ve no fucking idea !
the new intercity trains livery is quite nice …
wouldn’t mind seeing variations of these colours rolled out on busses & dart.
@d_d_dallas wrote:
Regarding the RTE snippet on construction actually starting don’t get too excited – some work was done in Pearse during the long weekend DART outages to create an underpass… which in 10 years time will be useful.
I know, when i said signs of life, i probably should have prefaced it with ‘faint signs of …’
Given that St. Jame’s looks like it will be a major office & residential quarter, the logic of shifting the station across the road seems reasonable enough to me, whether its a filip to Diageo or not.
@Rory W wrote:
So rather than make something that connects we have something that’s across one of the busiest junctions in Dublin – brilliant, what genius thinks these things up – surely the constuction could be done and keep business as usual as in any other country on the planet. This is just the elcheapo engineering solution (and is such a huge filip to Diageo you have to question it) rather than a planned solution
Fair point if there’s no entrance from the Heuston side, but surely there will be ???
I’ve no issue with option D, its still essentially Christ Church & is close enough to the river to serve both north & south of the liffey. Its a few minutes walk to smithfield, temple bar, dame st/dublin castle, thomas street and if anything has a far larger catchment area than a thomas street centred stop.
Good to see that there is some life in this project, I have actually heard Dempsey utter the word interconnector more than once since his tenure at transport started, his predecessor didn’t even know what it was.
I think the two tone blue on the back works nicely, but the yellow, jesus its loud & seeing that every shaggin bus stop pole has just been coated in it, looks like it’ll be around for a long time to come :rolleyes:
or maybe we should just go back to a, eh, nice shade of green across dart & dublin bus ?
the air link isn’t too bad … a little strong though to run across the entire fleet
a touch more refined than the shade we knew so well …
all three – orange, yellow & green, circulated for a while if i recall until the orange & yellow’s were phased out … i think the remaining single green livery which tied in with the dart lasted until the fancy city swift’s burst on to the scene circa ’95 ?
well everything was snot green once, excpet for the taxi’s of course, but there were so few of them it didn’t matter …
More detail there alright, the red lining the underside of the canopy is new, i quite like it but its a little harder to achieve than punching in an RGB code in reality.
I don’t see any correlation between the model & render of the auditorium’s interior (which is fairly conventional) although given the number of changes, perhaps one or other is a throw back to the original renders.
