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I could go on but wait until you are sniffing the gentle breeze of Dublins shit when Gormley starts sending it up that incinerator chimney and you wont meet many happy strollers on Dollymount strand unless the wind is blowing from the north west.
Any word on the status of the incinerator?
@Bourgeoise wrote:
They were not fixed for the European City of Culture 2005 so why would they bother now ?
ah yeah, lets just leave them.
No firm plans that i’m aware of but hopefully its somewhere on the radar in DCC. All side & related streets should be repaved also imo and any paving scheme should be extended to lower grafton st., as i said earlier the red paving does a good job of defining the entire area as a distinct city quarter, we shouldn’t loose that distinction.
As an aside, not only is there a Dublin in California, but there is also a Grafton Street in Dublin, California ;).
@MrX wrote:
I’ve noticed that the lights on St. Patrick’s Bridge are in a terrible state of disrepair. They appear to be some kind of fairly crude looking affair that was possibly added in the latter half of the 20th century. However, they’re in a dire state of repair. Some of the lanterns have clear glass, some have frosted glass, others seem to have missing glass.
Various parts of the pole seem to be propped up with string too!Ah yes we had this sitatuion on O’Connell Bridge for near on ten years, don’t worry, you’ve probably only another five to wait before Cork CC get the finger out & do something about the most important bridge in Cork City :rolleyes:
@DGF wrote:
I’ve always thought that it would be great to get away from the central carriageway with a ‘pavement’ on either side which was adoped with the original paving scheme.
I disagree, I think the current layout does a good job of regularising & elevating a street that is almost laneway like in parts. Agreed that the number of bollards & obstructions in general are not necessary.
Modern: probably the crawford gallery extension.
Old: Holy Trinity, have an old night time pic somewhere, will dig it out.
@hutton wrote:
Also a thumbs down from me. There has already been a race to the bottom in recent years by the 4 separate local authorities in the Dublin area, as each has been in competition with each other to collect the development levies and rates.
Paul, is it possible to provide an option of “A new strong regional Greater Dublin Area authority prior to any new city designation”? That’s the one I’m voting for anyway… It’s either that or I’m spoiling my vote
+1 🙂
The current set up has massively accelerated development outside the M50, its impossible to create a high density core under this set up.
and to be honest, the red paving isn’t the worst thing i’ve ever seen in my life. Ok so its a little garish but did inject some colour into a grey 1980’s Dublin and whether we like it or not, it has served to define Grafton St. and its environs as a distinct quarter in itself.
Having said that, it is time for it to go – difficult to know what should replace it, perhaps a sandy coloured paver or some such. Any suggestions ?
I agree with Graham, chinese granite & stainless steel bollards should be out of the question for Grafton St.
I totally agree with Notjim it is more cohension and not fragmentation that is required; having sad that having a city without dense sub-centres renders any city inefficient. Bringing these centres into the city as opposed to leaving them develop without proper transport connections and social and commercial infrastructure would be a mistake. Swords and Tallaght seem to have done this a lot more than Blanchardstown which appears to be a charming village, shopping centre and sprawling business parks without any real cultural facilities.
Both Tallaght and Swords have a long way to go but one feels that the planners are achediving a lot of progress mostly with private sector investment but also with some good public projects.
Therein lies the plot; the port move to Balbriggan would involve the end of the Dublin Port Authority as the Bremore site is controlled by the Drogheda Harbour Board. How a country with the minimal sea freight figures that Ireland has needs more than one state port body is far from clear. This application is a shameful waste of taxpayers dollars.
Scrubbed up very well; I remember this being sold in 2004 for what seemed like a reasonable sum.
It is amazing that a leisure use wasn’t preferred at this location given the quality of the facade it would look great on last minute.
Was looking at Ballymore’s Pan Peninsula in E14 today which are very close to completion 53 stories high; very much the other end of the market!!
@P O’Carr wrote:
Anybody know why this dual track is possible?
It may have changed but it used to be that any single use building had to go through the planning process i.e. DCC and then ABP but if you presented a mixed use scheme that was no less than 40% Residential and no less than 40% commercial with the remaining 20% being either then you had the choice between the DDDA who were perceived as softer than the normal planning process or the same planning process as elsewhere.
It may have changed since 2005 you would hope that it would have as although some developments such as the Liebskind and Airies designed schemes are very good some of it was really very poor.
True a year makes a huge difference gone are the sub 4% yields and market conditions where the viability of literally anything within its use class inside the M50 was assured whether it was well executed or not. You still feel the owners made the right decision to total the old institiute building as it would be of little or no use as anything other than a purpose built education building due to the poor configuration of the entrance and scarcity of lifts.
It will be interesting to see what is proposed by I’d guess it is likely to be a mix between basement leisure, ground floor retail and upper floor resi given the constrained nature of the site and the levels of rent free available in existing office schemes. When markets move from rent frees in months shifting to years you can really say what a difference a year makes in the office market. A great time to be a blue chip tenant with an expired lease; at this stage of the market the real proffessionals will become clear as will the carpetbaggers that rode the wave of the past decade.
Architecturally one feels that things may improve with the carpetbaggers off the stage and the fewer requirements in the market having more negotiating power; an attractive building would probably be more likely to be in demand during recession due to the absence of supply constraints leading to rushed procurement decisions if international experience is anything to go by .
Here we go again with you equating the number of high rises to the success of a nation.
Aside from your obsession with anything over 10 stories, this was a decent proposal & i am disappointed to see it refused.
The decision was from the CC right ? it hadn’t gone to ABP had it ?
@Westie wrote:
Why do people like it ?. Just because its been there for 40 odd years. Its a bug bearer I have with Dubliners and I think indicative of many of the problems Dublin faces. Its not that people love LIberty Hall, its that they really just dont like change, they’d prefer to retain an ugly 60.’s eyesore than risk replacing it with something new and innovative. Only in Dublin could people possibly have a cultural affection for two overbearing nondescript chimney stacks which ruin an otherwise stunning bay area. I think this ‘Dublin in the rare oul times’ attitude shows a lack of self-confidence and is at the root of why we have no iconic 21st century architecture in this city, why the high rise debate is so contentious, why the docklands (the best opportunity we had to go crazy architecturally) look like something from an IKEA flatpack and why planning generally in this city is soooo frustrating.
I feel much better after that vent
Whats not to like? its a simple structure, decent proportions, clean lined & originally fairly light in appearance given its size. Overall I think its a decent representative of its time & deserves to be appropriately refurbished & retained.
Failure to maintain any structure other than solid glass over its lifetime will generally leave it looking like crap.
You needn’t worry Westie, i doubt i represent the view of the majority,
Kildare route 4 tracking isn’t, interconnector can also make its target if they get the finger out.
No doubt though that there is a heavy bias in favour of roads, all of which seem to be on or ahead of schedule.
Any opening date on cashel – culahill ? have to head to baltimore in october, which takes a very long time.
Given the scale of the roadway & junction in particular, i think the area needs something like this … with kings inn set back, broadstone itself is really the only structure to make a substantial impact, and coupled with the crest of the hill, is often all you see when passing through.
Quite like hendon’s myself, shame there is no way to incorporate it ?
@Westie wrote:
Despite some peoples misguided affection, I cant see a rationale to argue for its preservation on Architectural grounds as you could with the BOI HQ.
Whatever about the latter, affection cannot be misguided. If people like it, they like it.
